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My car was hit by a lorry. Who is at fault here?

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Trexraaa · 11/04/2024 11:06

I approached a junction with a lorry waiting at it. I thought the lorry was going right due to its positioning on the road. I know they have to go wide but this guy was literally in the middle of the road. He wasn’t indicating. I’m going left so I pull up on the left side of the junction where I am now side by side with the lorry. I am stationary and checking left and right for a gap to go. The lorry then decides to go left and crashes into the side of my car. I must have been in his blind spot for him not to see us. That’s my car written off but at least we are all ok. Am I at fault?

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Trexraaa · 12/04/2024 11:43

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 12/04/2024 07:39

but also explained that my memory wasn’t great due to shock and that the company will have CCTV footage.

and your dashcam footage?

I don’t have a dashcam but the fortunately the lorry did.

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SoupDragon · 12/04/2024 11:54

What will the dashcam of the lorry show given you were in his blind spot? It will show him pulling up to the clear junction, waiting and then hitting you won't it?

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 12/04/2024 12:03

it will show him approaching the junction with nothing in front of him. Therefore proving you drove into his blind spot after he was at the junction.

Trexraaa · 12/04/2024 12:17

@SoupDragon @Itsaloadofbollocksbut
Yeah, but hitting someone cause they were on your blind spot isn’t a defence apparently.

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Trexraaa · 12/04/2024 12:18

Either way it will show what happened so it’s up to them to decide liability. I’m prepared for either outcome.

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bellezarara · 12/04/2024 12:18

Trexraaa · 12/04/2024 12:17

@SoupDragon @Itsaloadofbollocksbut
Yeah, but hitting someone cause they were on your blind spot isn’t a defence apparently.

You shouldn’t have been in his lane, OP.

ghostyslovesheets · 12/04/2024 12:23

bellezarara · 12/04/2024 12:18

You shouldn’t have been in his lane, OP.

Exactly - pulling along side a vehicle that can’t see you ( or any vehicle) on a SINGLE lane roundabout is your fault!

you should not have been there!

Quartz2208 · 12/04/2024 13:18

I suspect the most likely here will not be liability on one side or the other but joint liability (which I actually think it is both of you made mistakes here) and your insurance deals with your claim

SoupDragon · 12/04/2024 13:21

Trexraaa · 12/04/2024 12:17

@SoupDragon @Itsaloadofbollocksbut
Yeah, but hitting someone cause they were on your blind spot isn’t a defence apparently.

You drove up the side of him when there is only a single lane.

How do you think he was supposed to see that you'd done that?

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 12/04/2024 13:30

Darwin’s law usually deals with acts of such idiocy.

Trexraaa · 12/04/2024 13:43

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Magnastorm · 12/04/2024 13:46

Your insurance company will of course go for 50/50 as it saves them money, but unless you are lucky you will most likely be found to be completely at fault. Driving up the side of a turning lorry when there isn't two lanes is astonishingly stupid.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 12/04/2024 13:49

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Another reason why you shouldn't have done it in the first place. She could have been killed because of your inexperience and lack of knowledge of the Highway Code.

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 12/04/2024 14:12

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That you put at risk. You’ll be extremely lucky if the only consequence of your absolute idiocy is financial.

SoupDragon · 12/04/2024 14:12

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The irony...

Itsaloadofbollocksbut · 12/04/2024 14:16

YOU knew the lorry was there.
YOU assumed he was turning right.
YOU decided that despite being a single lane you were going to treat it like 2 lanes.

HE didn’t know you or your 3 year old were there.
HE made the manoeuvre not expecting anyone to be stupid enough to do what you did.
HE was at a disadvantage, not knowing what you knew.

This is on YOU.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 12/04/2024 14:20

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Wow.

You put a 3 year old at risk and you're calling someone a dickhead?!

MikeWozniaksMohawk · 12/04/2024 14:22

Hope you’re ok OP. I had a near miss with a small lorry yesterday with my two kids in the car. They were following me too close behind and had to take evasive action when we went round a bend (going down a fairly steep hill too) to be immediately confronted with temporary traffic lights on red. Everyone was fine but I could see what might have happened and that was bad enough. Take care of yourself.

toomuchfaff · 12/04/2024 14:25

Eddielizzard · 11/04/2024 13:32

He wasn't indicating. How were you to know? He should have indicated and checked and he didn't.

Yes, you shouldn't have driven to the left, but IMO he's at fault for not indicating.

I was always taught to not assume or rely on indicators anyhow. For all you know the driver was indicating - but turned his wheel just enough for it to click off in the moment before OP arrived, or the bulb went, or the electrics failed - what i'm saying is that i was always taught to not rely on indicators or lack thereof - always wait for the driver to commit to their turn.

Londonrach1 · 12/04/2024 14:29

You should never have go beside him on what looks like a single lane. You could have killed yourself and your child. Luckily it was just the car that was damaged and hopefully you learnt not to do such a dangerous move next time.

YireosDodeAver · 12/04/2024 14:33

The insurance will probably assign blame 50:50. You were in a stupid place but lorry drivers should check to see if there's someone being stupid like that

Coconutter24 · 12/04/2024 14:33

Always wait for a lorry to begin moving at a junction never pull up at the side of them as like you say they have to take junctions wide. The fact you pulled up along side them when you admittedly had no idea which way they were going was very stupid tbh. Why wouldn’t you just wait till you could see their intentions?

Stormyweathr · 12/04/2024 14:37

Trexraaa · 11/04/2024 12:28

I see cars going side by side all the time if they are turning left and right.

This is a roundabout isn’t it?

completely different as too who is at fault if if it is?

umberelladay · 12/04/2024 14:41

toomuchfaff · 12/04/2024 14:25

I was always taught to not assume or rely on indicators anyhow. For all you know the driver was indicating - but turned his wheel just enough for it to click off in the moment before OP arrived, or the bulb went, or the electrics failed - what i'm saying is that i was always taught to not rely on indicators or lack thereof - always wait for the driver to commit to their turn.

Me too, I was at a badly designed double junction/ roundabout a little while ago indicted left, moved accordingly, my right of way. My indicator hadn't clicked off and the car in the lane had started to pull out like he was in a drag race, and was going apeshit at me.
The problem now is that people are in such a rush/aggressive in their driving. It was my right of way and not giving someone two seconds to switch off an indicator will get you in an accident. Luck for Mr aggressive, I'm a slow driver.

northernbeee · 12/04/2024 14:48

If he was between both lanes and you went down the left side of him he would never have seen you - so yes you were in the wrong to not stay behind him. He should have indicated but as he was in front of you, you are in the wrong.