Peter Andre on GB News

[Laughattheloons]

This has thrown me. I’ve just seen a TikTok about it. Obviously not a Peter fan but always just assumed he was a decent good guy. Clearly not. I can never ironic Mysterious Girl again

Why are being so vile to each other?

Fucking hell, you lot are unhinged.

The first and second are barely newsworthy but might just make a feelgood story on local news. The third probably wouldn't get on any TV news bulletin including gb news (presuming it was an accident and not some terror incident, in which case it would make every news channel).

Your basic point is sound though. A news outlet can report entirely accurately but still demonstrate its political biases through which stories it gives more or less prominence to.

But why would anyone want to watch news that is sandwiched between other items that feature people with questionable agendas? Why would I subject myself to that?

Who said you have too watch anything? I certainly never spoke to you.

Also I take it from your reply that if some thing does not align with your views its a questionable agenda, sorry but I have no time to discuss issues with people who have such narrow minded views.

Have a lovely evening.

You wrote that the news sections were factual and lacking in bias suggesting that items round the news were not - my statement was why anyone would endure that just in order to get to the news when there are so many other ways of getting it these days.

And what are you on about regarding not having spoken to me. This is a public forum. I can respond to any post I choose, thanks.

But why would anyone want to watch news that is sandwiched between other items that feature people with questionable agendas? Why would I subject myself to that?

I've read the guardian for decades. I can tell the difference between the opinion articles which have a clear left wing slant, and the news articles, which are wriiten to be more neutral and factual but still betray a left wing editorial position based on what facts are given emphasis and which are left out. I never minded the "biased" left wing views in the opinion section because I'm left wing. I imagine if I was more right wing, I'd be happy to read or watch news embedded in more right wing content. I don't think it's a particularly sinister arrangement.

@Underthinker

Nobody would claim the Guardian wasn't left-leaning, yet the Gbeebies on here have claimed GBnews either isn't or that it is, but its News isn't. That's simply false.

You say it's nothing sinister, but I find its influence and links in our Government & its links to and promotion of far-right ideology pretty sinister. Its populist coverage simply riles up its target audience,regularly promoting the views conspiracy theorists & racists isn't healthy in a liberal democracy.

It isn't tofu eating Guardian readers setting fire to hotels or murdering MPs.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2023/07/14/gb-news-platforms-the-far-right-conspiracy-theorists-and-racists/

@Sillypede
It isn't tofu eating Guardian readers setting fire to hotels or murdering MPs.

But it is them being violent to mostly older women at feminist rallies and threatening women with rape and death over social media.

Maybe. But who has been stirring up the GC movement under the guise of being pro-women?

Women.

I'm a tofu eating ex exclusive guardian reader and GC.
Glad I'm off the hook for that.
Shame I'm in thrall to the far right lol. What I shame if only I read a broad spread of media and used my critical thinking skills.
Oh wait.

Snap

Yeah right. Nothing to do with the Gbeebies relentless anti-trans coverage then? Forgive me for being sceptical of a movement funded by the evangelical right, the same people picketing abortion clinics, are concerned about women's rights.

For example https://transsafety.network/posts/christian-right-linked-law-firm/

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00207659.2021.1939946

@Sillypede The GC cause was well established (most significantly by left wing feminists) well before GB News was even conceived.

You see yourself as progressive, yet you think women don't have the wits to organise and protest about their rights without being "stirred up" by the far-right.

I was relatively late to the issue, but the first I heard of it all was listening on the radio to the harrowing account of a Labour party woman whose meeting at the party conference was disrupted by thugs hammering on the glass windows.

Link to a story about it here. I hope the morning star isn't too much of a far-right publication for you...
Women's meeting besieged by raging crowd | Morning Star (morningstaronline.co.uk)

And just to add. If you ONLY get your news from the Guardian and similar, you simply won't know that this is the absolutely standard behaviour of anti-women pro-trans protestors over the last 5 years. There have been countless acts of intimidation and violence that have gone unremarked and unnoticed by so called progressive publications, because early on the editors picked a side in the gender debate, based on what appeared to be superficially more progressive, and they've been trying to hush up what an absolute ethical shit-show they have tied themselves to ever since.

What have GB News said that makes them anti-trans? Genuine question as I don't know.

This!! He wouldn't be where he is now if it wasn't for KP.
I've seen several videos of how he treated her- not a nice man!

If only we knew our place.😞

Where's the discrimination?
Employing a handy group name for bigoted nationalists does not involve any discrimination. No one is stopping them drinking at the water fountain.

The problem with using an insult to group together people whose ideas you don't agree with, is it's completely thought terminating.

They're just a bunch of gammons/snowflakes and not worth listening to.

Writing people off like that means there's no engagement, no genuine debate, no possibility of changing anyone's mind.

I voted Remain and think Brexit is a disaster. In practice, we have voluntarily put economic sanctions on ourselves.

But I still think it's worth trying to understand why people voted for it and why some still think it's a good idea.

There's a huge host of reasons why people support the views espoused by GB News and although I disagree with all of them, I can sometimes see what has led people down that path.

Indeed, which is why I said it adds nothing to the political discourse. But crying racism over it is ludicrous.

We know why right wing populism worked, we've had governments of both coloured rosettes ignoring huge sections of the population & abandoning large areas of the country for decades.

Why would I only get my news from a liberal rag like the Guardian?

The GC movement has undoubtedly been influenced by the evangelical right, and GBnews. Neither of which have women's rights as a core belief. It didn't spontaneously erupt with the burning of an effigy of Judith Butler.

Of course I accept that women can and do organise themselves, the same way I can accept that it was young people that chose to adopt non-binary labels. I don't think everyone is sat at home reading critical theory and then living it out, people are reacting to either lived experiences or, like the pro-trans lobby in the US to rafts of regressive legislation.

It's probably the most incendiary topic around at the moment, with people on both sides in fear of speaking about it. When you add the anti-abortion, evangelical right into the mix you don't lesson the hysteria.

Why would I only get my news from a liberal rag like the Guardian?
I was using the general you i.e. "if one gets their news only from the guardian .."
However you do have similar talking points and blind spots on the topics they don't cover.

The GC movement has undoubtedly been influenced by the evangelical right, and GBnews
Haha no. GB news has been the only station to semi-regularly have GC guests, which I appreciate. But it is not where any of the ideas come from. Andrew Doyle does excellent work on free speech, which I also appreciate, but really free speech is its own cause and not part of GC philosophy.

The far right is actually opposed to gender critical beliefs, because the far right supports strict gender roles - just as gender ideology does. There are really three distinct and opposing blocs on the topic. The conservative right view, the gender ideology view, and the gender critical view (the good one).