please can you tell me any benefits of brexit

[battenburg100]

Hi everyone
I am desperate to find any advantages to brexit as I can't find any.
I am willing to hear of any success stories.

Travel abroad has become much harder - the issue with any extra months on a 10 year passport and the right number of months left on the passport - think 3 or 6 months.

Hiring a car abroad is harder - so much more extra paper work.

Much harder to live abroad due to the demand of certain amount in a bank account.

My sister who lives in Spain has had alot of barriers due to Brexit, in relation to coming back to living in the Uk and even her driving licence, in Spain now is not transferable - which wasnt the case before brexit.

I also find that travel abroad is even harder than ever - especially with this upcoming October when we have the implementation of the new ETIAS and the visa issue for whatever country we want to visit.

Has anything good from Brexit? Am I missing something?

The referendum made me sad, too, but for different reasons. It made me lose respect for a lot of people. And it made me lose faith in democracy as I realised how easily people can be manipulated to vote for a pile of shit.

I do agree that it had been educational though. I have learnt a lot about how electorates can be tricked into voting for stuff that is completely contrary to their best interests. It's terrifying.

God I hope this is a joke...

The one benefit is Boris got the push.

Phew, for all those well known Japanese cheeses, just like Brie....

As I understand it, they aren't bothered by our nonsense at all. The EU has just moved on and watched us implode.

Yeah, the likes of Rees Moggy can put all their money off shore and not pay tax on it.

the Tories won with a massive majority in 2019 based on getting Brexit done

him being pushed out was to do with all the lies mainly around covid

God how depressing.

Except for those of us in Ireland who have watched in horror at how little regard the rest of the UK has for Northern Ireland and how ill-informed they are about the good Friday agreement.

Oooh, I've got one. Fees to buy from EU countries are now so bloody high that it's now completely unfeasible for me to buy my favourite Butlers chocolates from Ireland any more, which must save me getting a wee bit fatter?

I like the way UKIP have rebranded as Reform UK to complain about immigration. It was due to their beloved Brexit that the small boat issue blew up. Their Brexit has wrecked our economy. Surely nobody will fall for their bullshit this time?

The fact people like Tice, Farage, Rees-Mogg, Cummings, Hannan, Frost etc walk around as though they are wronged victims makes my blood boil.

I live in an EU country and it's just a different set of forms, there has always been forms. The misspending of EU funds here is outrageous, food is far more expensive than uk and the vaccine roll out was about 8 weeks behind uk. I wouldn't go back to uk for all the tea in china - but it IS NOT peaches and cream on the continent ( southern) and actually you lot don't know how good you have got it .

I mean, did you expect anything else? A lot of us are still sad because we have friends in the UK, and because it seemed like shooting yourselves in the foot. Personally, I can still remember how I felt on the day of the result. Disbelief.

But the EU has to move on and focus on its member states.

The thing is...the EU is democratic, it's just not voted for solely by the occupants of our country.

The sovereignty argument does amuse me, though. That sovereignty we've gained...what, exactly have we done with it? We haven't set our own food standards, they're largely identical to the EU standards because the population won't accept less (and that's the reason there's no independent trade deal with the US yet, 8 years later). Border control? Well, that's going just spiffingly - our government's solution to net migration in the hundreds of thousands per year is to send a few hundred people to Rwanda, and even then they can't do it in a way that's actually robust against legal challenge. Save the NHS? Yeah, 'nuff said. Economic benefits? The country hasn't been worse off in peacetime in living memory.

The central problem I had with Brexit is that the EU provided a constant legal framework in the background - it was our safeguard against an incompetent and self-obsessed government, limiting their options for fuckery. Essentially, the notional lack of sovereignty was the biggest benefit. Take the brakes off, and give our incompetent government free-rein over everything, and...well, you get what we have now.

I'm thinking Jeremy Corbyn put people off voting Labour.

And yes, this has been eye-opening.

We may be paying off long term commitments to the EU, but had we been in we would still be paying plus a massive budget increase on top of it each year.
The EU borrowing debt is over 750 Billion Euros, this won't decrease .
Are food is cheaper than the EU.
The NHS bills rise because the population increases Brexit isn't the cause of that.
Sorry people are still upset, the recession won't last for ever, and as said take a peak at the world , everyone is in the same boat, so do the Torys Government secretly rule the world, can I tell Boris?

Yes, blue passports weren't they produced in Poland?

Even my Brexit voting friends can't give me an example of any kind of benefit.

Only, 750 billion Euros? That's pretty low considering the UK alone is £2.65 TRILLION in debt.
Food is not cheaper in the UK. Some things are cheaper but not many any more.
The rise in population also means a rise in tax revenue that could pay for things like the NHS. Brexit caused many medical staff to leave AND lots of non-medical EU migrants who were net contributors.

Brexit has been a disaster. The recovery from the recession is going to take even longer because of it. We've shot ourselves in the foot and pretending it is not the reason the UK is in massive trouble, or that we still have cheap food, is just deluded.

Yes JC was out of touch with many Labour voters with his patronising ideas on what working class voters want

oddly he has always been anti EU hence why he acted like a petulant child during the campaigning during the referendum we all know what side he was on and that wasn’t Remain so he really should have been more in touch with them

Of course! All his life he was vehemently anti EU, like most left wingers. One of many, many problems with his leadership. He may as well have gone to No10 and held the door open for Boris.

Eh? Labour voters (not all but a significant minority) voted leave - what was any Labour leader supposed to do, tell them to fuck off we don't want your votes?

Another faux wide eyed "I genuinely just want to understand Brexit, please someone explain to me" from an OP who then immediately disappears never to be seen again, no doubt laughing in the wings at all the divisive vitriol they have stirred up.

Yes, I do think that.
No, I don't, of course not. Jeremy Corbyn, in my opinion, was not a good Labour leader and did not have the capacity to challenge either Boris or Conservative policies effectively.
He was anti EU, but followed the Blairite path of Remain during his leadership. It was the glaring hypocrisy on this matter which, imo, was a contributory factor to Labour losses.

Often the "Non EU" passport queues at airports are much, much shorter