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please can you tell me any benefits of brexit

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battenburg100 · 04/04/2024 18:04

Hi everyone
I am desperate to find any advantages to brexit as I can't find any.
I am willing to hear of any success stories.

Travel abroad has become much harder - the issue with any extra months on a 10 year passport and the right number of months left on the passport - think 3 or 6 months.

Hiring a car abroad is harder - so much more extra paper work.

Much harder to live abroad due to the demand of certain amount in a bank account.

My sister who lives in Spain has had alot of barriers due to Brexit, in relation to coming back to living in the Uk and even her driving licence, in Spain now is not transferable - which wasnt the case before brexit.

I also find that travel abroad is even harder than ever - especially with this upcoming October when we have the implementation of the new ETIAS and the visa issue for whatever country we want to visit.

Has anything good from Brexit? Am I missing something?

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Redpaisley · 12/04/2024 09:11

CranfordScones · 04/04/2024 18:47

None of the issues you've outlined are problems of Brexit - they're problems of bureaucracy - and they could be solved at the stroke of a bureaucrat's pen.

To think that the solution to a few passport and car hire difficulties should be the surrender of sovereignty to a supranational parliament so weak that it can't even propose its own legislation is to miss the point by such a huge margin as to make it pointless debating with you.

And now you have your sovereignty in the hands of very competent Tories. Years later, they are still looking for that pen to solve the problems🤔

Redpaisley · 12/04/2024 09:15

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/04/2024 18:18

Well it's been at least a month since the last time we had this exact same thread, so I suppose it's overdue. 💩

It should be every day, considering it continues to impact people in negative ways.

Redpaisley · 12/04/2024 09:18

ArchaeoSpy · 04/04/2024 19:03

  1. Sovereignty: Brexit proponents argue that leaving the EU allows the UK to regain control over its laws, borders, and regulations. This means that decisions affecting the UK are made by its own institutions rather than by the EU.
  2. Trade Independence: Supporters suggest that outside the EU, the UK can negotiate trade deals tailored to its own interests and priorities. They believe that this could lead to better trade arrangements with non-EU countries and potentially boost the UK's economy.
  3. Regulatory Flexibility: Leaving the EU would enable the UK to set its own regulations and standards, free from EU directives. This could offer more flexibility for businesses and potentially reduce regulatory burdens.
  4. Control over Immigration: Brexit supporters often highlight the issue of immigration control as a key advantage. Leaving the EU would mean the UK can implement its own immigration policies, potentially reducing the number of immigrants and giving priority to skilled workers.
  5. Budgetary Savings: With Brexit, the UK would no longer be required to contribute to the EU budget. Brexit proponents argue that this could result in savings that can be redirected to domestic priorities such as healthcare, education, or infrastructure.

Source: Google/Wikipedia

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None of it UK's corrupt politicians are capable of achieving

OchonAgusOchonOh · 12/04/2024 09:22

Moglet4 · 12/04/2024 08:58

Jeez, you’re right, it’s absolutely not all to do with travel. For lots of us, losing our businesses solely due to Brexit is even more important. Oh, and losing a huge number of highly qualified workers and potential workers in key sectors. Oops, I forgot about the loss of funding and collaboration for medical research. Or maybe we could think of the kids who now can’t afford to study abroad because the scheme that replaced Erasmus is atrocious. But it’s ok because you travelled to the Netherlands just fine

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Just pointing out that students in Northern Ireland can still avail of Erasmus as the Irish government is paying for it.

Kendodd · 12/04/2024 16:34

Redpaisley · 12/04/2024 09:15

It should be every day, considering it continues to impact people in negative ways.

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I agree.
Leave voters go every single thing they wanted. What they don't get though, is me to shut up about it.

Bollindger · 12/04/2024 19:59

Kendodd · 12/04/2024 16:34

I agree.
Leave voters go every single thing they wanted. What they don't get though, is me to shut up about it.

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We still all laugh that we won, simply because people were too stupid to realise they causes this by apathy.

Redpaisley · 13/04/2024 03:52

sofasofa42 · 05/04/2024 09:04

I live in an EU country and it's just a different set of forms, there has always been forms. The misspending of EU funds here is outrageous, food is far more expensive than uk and the vaccine roll out was about 8 weeks behind uk. I wouldn't go back to uk for all the tea in china - but it IS NOT peaches and cream on the continent ( southern) and actually you lot don't know how good you have got it .

Like you don't know how good you got it. Easy to dismiss the hardships of the other side when you don't have to live their life day to day. If UK is so much better why wouldn't you go back?

Redpaisley · 13/04/2024 04:06

Jovacknockowitch · 05/04/2024 11:49

You aren't allowed to post stuff like that on here, even if it's true.

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It is not true. Usually queues are longer as you need to passport control rather than e-gates. And they can be really long if there is one in coming flight from outside EU.

ssd · 13/04/2024 10:04

Has anyone came up with a real benefit yet?

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 12:38

Yes, we left the EU.
This was the benefit we voted for, guess what, we got it.
People still visit the EU. So apparently the world didn't end....

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 13/04/2024 18:39

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 12:38

Yes, we left the EU.
This was the benefit we voted for, guess what, we got it.
People still visit the EU. So apparently the world didn't end....

Way to utterly miss the point. Oddly it's not about holidays. The impact on the economy has been and will continue to be very bad.

Talkinpeace · 13/04/2024 18:51

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 12:38

Yes, we left the EU.
This was the benefit we voted for, guess what, we got it.
People still visit the EU. So apparently the world didn't end....

We have Pizza Hut so no need to visit Rome .....

ssd · 13/04/2024 18:54

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 12:38

Yes, we left the EU.
This was the benefit we voted for, guess what, we got it.
People still visit the EU. So apparently the world didn't end....

So where amongst that is an actual benefit?

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 18:58

Once we finish paying off on going projects, the bill will be paid. Unlike the EU members who are facing massive bills in the next budget.
Things will improve once the world recovers from covid debts.

Peregrina · 13/04/2024 19:56

Things will improve once the world recovers from covid debts.

I.e. pie in the sky - not a positive benefit to show four years after leaving.
I might win thousands in the lottery and become rich - but that is not money in my bank account right now.

VivX · 14/04/2024 13:35

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 12:38

Yes, we left the EU.
This was the benefit we voted for, guess what, we got it.
People still visit the EU. So apparently the world didn't end....

This is like saying "Brexit means Brexit"
No actual benefit, just a sort of circular existential statement.
It's completely meaningless in practical terms.

And presumably Brexit was never meant to prevent people visiting the EU.

VivX · 14/04/2024 13:39

ssd · 13/04/2024 10:04

Has anyone came up with a real benefit yet?

I think we can take from this thread (and from the general media silence on the subject) that there are no real benefits from Brexit because presumably if even one single benefit existed, we'd all know about it by now.

Mercurial123 · 14/04/2024 15:56

Bollindger · 13/04/2024 18:58

Once we finish paying off on going projects, the bill will be paid. Unlike the EU members who are facing massive bills in the next budget.
Things will improve once the world recovers from covid debts.

You keep telling yourself that.

Bollindger · 14/04/2024 16:38

But we know that nothing you see will ever be perceived as good.
All you do is moan about the world , the universe in fact everuthing.
No move forward will ever be acknowledge.

We are not going back.

Peregrina · 14/04/2024 20:07

How is a move backwards as Brexit was, a move forwards? Do tell.

DanielGault · 14/04/2024 20:08

Peregrina · 14/04/2024 20:07

How is a move backwards as Brexit was, a move forwards? Do tell.

I was thinking the exact same 🤣

VivX · 14/04/2024 21:03

Bollindger · 14/04/2024 16:38

But we know that nothing you see will ever be perceived as good.
All you do is moan about the world , the universe in fact everuthing.
No move forward will ever be acknowledge.

We are not going back.

I don't think it is a case of not being able to perceive anything as good.

Nobody has actually managed to articulate one thing as actually being good - as far as Brexot is concerned.

I say this an an optimist. I voted Remain but when Breixt won, I genuinely tried to find some positives - but apparently there's nothing. Four years on from leaving and eight years on from the referendum is surely plenty of time to think of one actual positive outcome. I mean, they didn’t even manage to reinstate the navy blue passports - they look black, ffs.

Kendodd · 14/04/2024 21:09

It didn't even shut Farage and Co up, they're now trying to destroy more stuff.

saoirse31 · 14/04/2024 21:15

Surely main advantage of brexit was that it showed you how pathetically incompetent Tories were, for example in negotiations with EU. They were embarrassingly unprepared, unknowledgeable etc etc etc.

But then, you voted them in again.

Peregrina · 15/04/2024 09:10

I mean, they didn’t even manage to reinstate the navy blue passports - they look black, ffs.

They are exactly the same colour as the older ones with the little windows in were. But those were the days - I got married and changed my name and my old name was just crossed out on the carboard which showed in the little window and the new one inserted.

The current ones have gone backwards in other respects - if you applied on line and already had e.g. a driving licence with your signature on, it would suck the signature out of the system and print it on. Now you have to sign it again in person. That's not a big deal, but is going backwards, not forwards. Oh and weren't they printed in Poland by a French company? The UK firm which had done passports since the year dot didn't get the contract. How is that "taking back control"?