please can you tell me any benefits of brexit

[battenburg100]

Hi everyone
I am desperate to find any advantages to brexit as I can't find any.
I am willing to hear of any success stories.

Travel abroad has become much harder - the issue with any extra months on a 10 year passport and the right number of months left on the passport - think 3 or 6 months.

Hiring a car abroad is harder - so much more extra paper work.

Much harder to live abroad due to the demand of certain amount in a bank account.

My sister who lives in Spain has had alot of barriers due to Brexit, in relation to coming back to living in the Uk and even her driving licence, in Spain now is not transferable - which wasnt the case before brexit.

I also find that travel abroad is even harder than ever - especially with this upcoming October when we have the implementation of the new ETIAS and the visa issue for whatever country we want to visit.

Has anything good from Brexit? Am I missing something?

The UK firm which had done passports since the year dot didn't get the contract.

Maybe Brexit created too many difficulties for the UK company so they could no longer put together a competitive bid?

Remainers/Rejoiners and all who keep banging on about it - what is so amazing about the EU just right now that you insist that the UK absolutely has to rejoin it with all the costs and losses that would involve?

So what was the list of positives?

So to the Brexiter:
Costs and losses of being in the EU = BAD
Greater costs and losses of being outside the EU = A VERY GOOD THING.

There really is no logic to their arguments.

Back in 2019, I predicted that there was such a long gap between the referendum and actually leaving that all the Brexiters would have time to find other things to blame for the looming economic disaster, even though every single forecast (including their own) showed quite clearly that the time to recover from the economic losses alone incurred by Brexit would be measured on generational scales. Literally nobody with any knowledge of the subject was predicting any kind of uplift because it was simply not possible. In fact, the only people claiming it were the politicians, whose glossy trade deals still haven't materialised 8 years later.

Then along came COVID and Russia's stupidity, and...oh, look what's happening. Colour me shocked.

Just for starters:

Free trade and lack of customs and tariffs for movement of goods within the EU and large local market

Free movement within the EU (and lack of queues at border control)

EHIC

No Irish border issues

What's so amazing about Brexit right now that it was worth the economic disaster?

Maybe you're better off on the Daily Mail comments section? You'll find more support there.

This thread has been up for two weeks and still no one has been able to articulate a single benefit of Brexit. Being able to get a (non-UK made) passport with a different coloured cover is not a benefit.

Actually we could have had most of that and left the EU but remained in the SM and CU, it's just blind stupidity and arrogance of Tory dogma.

We'll be banging on about joining the single market and the customs soon, so you'd better start looking for reasonable counters arguments. Unless of course you think joining the SM and CU would be eminently sensible while still respectful the referendum?

The big warehouses & factories in my area have been forced to change their shift patterns so locals (mainly mother's who were effectively barred from jobs there because all shift patterns included a weekend day) are able to take jobs. Before Brexit they were recruiting from Eastern Europe.

That alone hasn't been worth all of the disadvantages of Brexit. But it's a welcome change in my area & is making a big difference to the quality of life for a lot of people, especially lone mothers.

well there’s only been about a billion threads asking this question tbf….

The big warehouses & factories in my area have been forced to change their shift patterns so locals (mainly mother's who were effectively barred from jobs there because all shift patterns included a weekend day) are able to take jobs. Before Brexit they were recruiting from Eastern Europe.

OK, but should that be classed as a benefit of Brexit? What was stopping local employers taking on local workers first instead of going to E Europe to recruit?Did the EU say that local residents were not to be employed, or was it a case of the employers being greedy and inflexible?

No. HTH.

Another Brexit ‘benefit’ in this mornings papers - lives are being imperilled by drug shortages, that are being made worse by Brexit related red tape.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/apr/18/drug-shortages-normal-in-uk-made-worse-by-brexit-report-warns

Some companies have chosen to simply stop supplying the UK.

I agree @Peregrina

It’s the same with farms, they’ve had to adapt their seasonal worker shifts to fit locals. But in their case, the farmers are still left with problematic labour shortages because there simply aren’t enough local people looking for seasonal work of that nature in these remote rural areas.

Rees Mogg's promise for cheaper food anyone?

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-border-checks-to-add-billions-to-consumer-bills-13125846

Civil servants conducted and ran the negotiations. That’s the first thing to make clear. Remember that both the conservatives and labour were divided within their parties on the issue of the UK’s membership of the EU. Please can we stick to the facts when discussing this as it wasn’t drawn on party political lines.

in terms of seeing any ‘benefits’ , the UK was a member of the EU for several decades. It’s difficult to quantify benefits (assuming you mean economic benefits only) of the UK not being in the EU,in the same way it is difficult to quantify (economic) benefits of the UK’s membership whilst we were part of the EU . For the benefit of honest debate it’s really important that we all recognise these limits.

Labour's fence sitting in the run up to the Referendum was no help to anyone, but they weren't a party to the negotiations. That is squarely down to the Tory Government.

The Conservatives won a 80 seat majority with their oven-ready brexit deal.

It's a Tory Brexit

What are the non-economic benefits of Brexit?

They're black and made in the EU

Duty free at the airport is the only thing I can think of.