please can you tell me any benefits of brexit

[battenburg100]

Hi everyone
I am desperate to find any advantages to brexit as I can't find any.
I am willing to hear of any success stories.

Travel abroad has become much harder - the issue with any extra months on a 10 year passport and the right number of months left on the passport - think 3 or 6 months.

Hiring a car abroad is harder - so much more extra paper work.

Much harder to live abroad due to the demand of certain amount in a bank account.

My sister who lives in Spain has had alot of barriers due to Brexit, in relation to coming back to living in the Uk and even her driving licence, in Spain now is not transferable - which wasnt the case before brexit.

I also find that travel abroad is even harder than ever - especially with this upcoming October when we have the implementation of the new ETIAS and the visa issue for whatever country we want to visit.

Has anything good from Brexit? Am I missing something?

It has also brought Irish reunification closer.

Same could be said of Northern Ireland. Although, arguably, they've got the least-worst part of Brexit compared to the other home nations.

I’m afraid it’s highly unlikely the EU would accept Scotland as an independent country. Of course, tax
payers in England would be better off if Scotland somehow managed to ‘leave the UK’. Everybody knows this. I do wish we could have a realistic discussion based on the facts.

I doubt that EU exit in itself has brought reunification closer. Isn’t it more long term demographic changes that are specific to Ireland and to Northern Ireland?

What would the EU gain from having Scotland join, especially as the sun begins to set on oil and gas? Dont get me wrong we still massively need this now, but by the time Scotland gets around to being fully integrated, say in 15 years time, we will be entirely renewables/electricity and oil and gas will be an absolute no go. Scotland should have done a Norway but that process needed to happen approx 60 years ago, its too late now

There is absolutely no way that the UK is ‘more vulnerable to terrorism’ as a result
of having left the EU. Anyone who works for the UK intelligence services
or the police would accept
this.

The exit in and of itself hasn't. However, the complete disregard for NI and the GFA shown by the British establishment has pushed many people who were satisfied with the status quo towards unity.

The GFA resulted in many nationalists being relatively satisfied with the status quo and less likely to push for a border poll. Brexit changed that.

https://www.politico.eu/article/united-ireland-look-more-likely-brexit-study-uk-belfast/#:~:text=Among%20key%20swing%20voters%20in,in%20only%20the%20past%20year.

In answer to your last sentence: no, and no. There you go.

This sadly does not surprise me. I knew people who didn't realise that Ireland was a separate country, never mind what the GFA was.

Mind boggling level of ignorance.

Personally, it pushed me to emigrate and now I have a better standard of living. Does that count?

It has helped skilled workers from around the world come to the UK where they would have found it more difficult before.

It has stopped the well-worn route of people claiming European passports via ancestor visas (especially Italian) to then move (uncontrolled) to the UK.

It has stopped the well-worn route of people claiming European passports via ancestor visas (especially Italian) to then move (uncontrolled) to the UK.

I am not quite sure which group of people you are referring too. I do know of a couple of Chileans who claimed Italian passports and then came to the UK. I don't even know whether they stayed.

Meanwhile, plenty of Brexiters are happily brushing off Irish grandparents or German connections and claiming their passports. Even though they have no apparent desire to move to the respective countries.

If immigration from the EU to the UK was ‘uncontrolled’, that was our own doing. It was always the case that immigrants within the EU have to evidence a certain income level and are not able to claim benefits for three months. If we didn’t bother registering people or enforcing that, that was on us.

Thing is, claiming EU citizenship though ancestors will make travel a lot easier even if they don't intend to move. And imagine all the opportunities and freedoms their children will then have. I really wish I could have that for my children. Leave voters, then claiming EU citizenship, while voting to take it away from me and my children, I have nothing but contempt for this.

Free movement not immigration. Free movement massively increased the availability of all sorts of workers in all sorts of industries, one result of which was the driving down of labour costs and therefore the wages of UK workers in said industries. I would imagine this was one of the drivers for people who decided to vote EU exit.

The EU passport via ancestry thing was an example of white privilege

Something I’m finding strange and increasingly frightening among EU superfans - not normal sane Remainers, but those who explode at the mildest suggestion that the organisation may not be entirely perfect - is their ignoring the EU’s current political situation. Leaving aside the utter mess of continental train travel (thanks, Deutsche Bahn) and the German economic crisis, the sad fact is that a humongous majority of EU countries are lurching towards the very worst far right, with a charming few also boosting the very worst far left. In Italy, fascists are already in control, with horrible consequences for gay people. This should trouble all of us. The seat projections for the fast approaching EU Parliament election? They are eye-popping. It’s not a political climate in which Britain should currently be involved. Trumplestiltskin is horrible enough; we don’t need extremist bilge oozing in from the other direction too.

I don't disagree.
Citizens of other ancestry had their EU rights and opportunities taken from them with less chance of finding an Irish or other ancestor to enable them to reclaim those rights. So I agree, Brexit punished some groups more than others.

We led the way on this. Jon Danzig warned in 2016 that, if Leave won, there would not be more control for ordinary people, but that we would hand control to the most right wing and nastiest government we had seen in the UK. And here we are.

I think you're right. I'm in my 50s, lve never seen a more hate filled government intent on striping away citizens rights.

Agreed although I am in my 60s and the Thatcher years ran it close - Thatcher claimed to love democracy until anyone used it to disagree with her, at which point she did her best to shut them down.

That definitely doesn't age well, does it - even for people who didn't see it for the big pile of poo it was at the time!

Things not being politically great here either doesn’t make the EU’s situation any better.

None. Just over half the population have ruined it for the rest of us.

No, but I don’t think we need to worry about association with very right-wing politics there. We’re ahead of the game in many cases - admittedly not in the case of Hungary.