Yes, I am biased.

[broodymamma]

My 14 year old is being excluded from a school outing as a punishment for singing aloud in class. Many classmates were being rowdy at the time. Only 1 other classmate is also being excluded Aibu to call the head and ask them to reconsider. A school outing is a major deal as there are approximately 4 trips during the year.

Yes you would BU. Your daughter was being deliberately disruptive in class and is more than old enough to no better. Fair punishment and as a parent you need to let her learn (and teach her) that actions have consequences.

Assuming you were not in class, you only have your daughters word that ‘many classmates were being rowdy’
Actions have consequences and the school feel this is appropriate punishment. You should support them.

The school are not being unreasonable.

Your child will have be warned and then went ahead being a pain still.

Tough luck.

If I was the Head and you rang up I'd not be reconsidering.

What was she singing out loud?

Yes you are BU. My son has been picked
To go to Malaga with school next year, he's now started to get negatives for being distruptive ( which he's normally very quiet and shy) don't know where it's come from but he's starting to show off. He's now been told if this attitude doesn't change by the 31st of may ( when the trip deposit needs paying) he will not be going end of. I'm not paying something for 7 months for him to disrupt his and other peoples learning and get rewarded no thankyou. I also as a kid had a mother that never felt like I did wrong. Then I did whatever I wanted as a teen and got in a lot of trouble as I knew my mum would turn a blind eye. 28 now and I bring my kids up totally different.

I'd definitely ring the school.

They can then explain the reasons to you.

That sounds harsh I agree

Now she has learned something important about behaving properly in class.

I don't. Do your children sing in class. The poor teacher.

OP I don't blame them for not taking her (and I expect there were not others doing the same)>

Yeah, I agree. My DS was disruptive (for SEN reasons) and it annoyed me hugely when he was excluded from things. But he had to learn that he didn't get a free pass to life just because he was ND and he had to try to conform and just shut the fuck up even if he didn't agree with Teacher!

So if you daughter was being disruptive in class, then tough. She has to learn that life is not all about her and she can't just do what she wants. There are consequences.

Were you present, OP? Because you must surely know that the auto defence of any kid in trouble is "It wasn't just me" and "All I did was..."

Your DC has received a consequence for poor and disruptive behaviour. Let's hope this is a learning experience.

I'm guessing she won't do it again.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. She broke the rules she got sanctioned. I fail to see the rationale for appeal.

You really think sitting in class singing should go unremarked? 🙄

YABU.

I'm taking it your one of those parents who never tells their child off or gives them consequences.

I think the worst thing you could do is show your daughter you think its unfair and call the school. Instead of her learning actions have concequences she'll be learning you will have a go at the school for her so she can get away with doing whatever she likes. I wouldn't want to be taking a disruptive child on a school trip either.

Why aren't you outraged at your child for being disruptive and disrespectful in a classroom?

You should be supporting the school, not challenging them. This is why children are disruptive.

YABVU.

You'd be totally unreasonable to call the school in this instance. She was disruptive and she should face the consequences of her actions. Perhaps she'll think twice about doing it again.

How do you know that many classmates were being rowdy at the time? If it's just on your child's say-so, I'd be bearing in mind that 'But everyone else was doing x - why are you picking on me?!' is an age-old, and usually false, excuse.

Do call the school.
And then come and update us on how bad her behaviour really was to get her excluded from the school trip.
We've only ever stopped one from going and he'd broken another kid's nose.

I think you can ask the school for more info, but I would assume their behaviour was unacceptable to warrant such a step.

Don't assume your child is telling you the whole story.

Goodness me!

I’m hope that once your initial reaction to the story your child has told you that you support the school here. There is so much valid data circulating about the decline of behaviour in schools. ‘Low level’ disruption to teaching is disrespectful to both the other students learning and the teacher. The only way discipline can be effective is if Parents need to show a united front with the school rather than taking arms against it with their student

Why would you ask them to reconsider?

Have you also asked your daughter to apologise to the teacher whose class she disrupted? Have you spoken to her about how rude she was and discussed the punishment she will have at home if she gets into trouble like this again at school? No? Thought not. So someone has to try and teach your child some respect somehow, and that means no trip.

What was the song?