Yes, I am biased.

[broodymamma]

My 14 year old is being excluded from a school outing as a punishment for singing aloud in class. Many classmates were being rowdy at the time. Only 1 other classmate is also being excluded Aibu to call the head and ask them to reconsider. A school outing is a major deal as there are approximately 4 trips during the year.

Sorry, where in the OP does it say the kid is a girl? I’ve read it three times now and I can’t see it - am I going nuts??

Back up the teacher on this! Your child will learn a lesson that there are consequences to disobeying a teacher and disrupting the education of others. Why should a teacher take your child on a trip if he/she cannot behave in a classroom?

Who cares? I really can’t see how it changes the context or the answer to be honest.

I imagine there's a fairly strong chance that your DD has completely underplayed the extend of her bad behaviour and that she probably ignored several warnings, and is now all faux shock and outrage at being excluded when 'I was only.....'

Of course it doesn’t but everyone is referring to her “daughter” and I’m just wondering where they’ve picked that up from…

As a former teacher, singing is one of the most disruptive behaviours in a lesson. Generally, the student will pretend they can't hear you to carry on singing, and it will also cause more students join in. It really derails the lesson.

I would bet that this behaviour displayed by your child isn't an isolated incident and is probably the cherry on the cake that warranted such a harsh punishment.

So she sang once in lessons and was immediately excluded from a school trip? What? No warning? No previous poor behaviour from the child ever??

you are right, it doesn't and I could have sworn I'd read DD when I typed my answer. Very weird. Not that it matters, but it's odd how we've all assumed it's a girl.

I don't think you're hearing the full truth here OP

OP is a Mother to girls so it is a DD, though not referenced in this thread.

Genuinely shocked at those saying YABU.
In school my friends and I would sing frequently, we were in a band together and were asked to perform at assemblies frequently - Literally no one had an issue with it as we were all still working, it wasn't remotely disruptive.

Many other girls would sing during class too. (In groups in turns, not all at once with different songs, that would be a racket!)
But then it was an all girls CofE school.
Idk if that makes a difference.

We were asked to stop I think once in the entire 4-5 years we were at that school, and even then that was only because it was time for the teacher to talk again, not because it was annoying anyone.

Idk what schools are like these days but it was pretty normal when I was younger for there to be about 20 minutes of teacher led stuff to begin with, then we would be given work to get on with via textbooks and working as groups for the majority, then a wrapping up portion at the end for about 10 minutes.
As long as everyone was doing what they were supposed to, there was no issue.

I did get in trouble for doodling whilst the teacher was talking one time, but that was a quiet activity that helped me concentrate/listen to the teacher better and wasn't disruptive to others, so after explaining that I found it easier to concentrate whilst doodling, it was no longer an issue :S

Weird that you can’t understand the kid was singing when asked not to and deliberately disrupting the class doing so. She didn’t say the school has a no singing policy, the kid was being deliberately disruptive and got a consequence for it. Presumably they didn’t stop when asked.

The school is teaching your child a valuable lesson, she’s learning there are consequences if you deliberately misbehave. I’d support the school if I were you.

/Shrugs
I just think the response is OTT personally.
Being asked to stop, a telling off, a lunchtime detention - Sure, why not.

Not allowed on a school trip/outing? Seems massive overkill imo.

I'd expect something like that for bullying, a fight, smoking on school grounds, skipping classes etc - Not one bout of singing.
(I assume one as OP hasn't clarified further yet)
Especially if many other classmates were being rowdy at the time as OP states.
There are a myriad of things that are considerably more disruptive in class than a wee bit of singing imo.

EDIT; All of that provided we're getting the full story from OP and not the sugar coated version.
If she was screeching Sia's Chandelier at the top of her lungs that's a very different story.

She was acting like a dick and got punished.

Oh yes, you are right. My response said "daughter" but the OP didn't specify. I guess the first response referred to a daughter and the rest of us followed suit?

I can guarantee that the OPs child was not an angel upto the singing incident and the child was excluded for 1 incident of disruption (amongst others being just as disruptive)

In my day we were lucky if we got more than one school trip per year; sounds like your child still gets to go on three. Given that s/he appears to have made no excuse or apology for actually being so disruptive (only defaulted to "but all the others were . . . "), s/he sounds like a Right Little Madam (as my Yorkshire granny would say).