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To Ask My Partner To Be Better

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Clareretro1964 · 04/04/2024 10:20

My partner and I have been together for almost 10 years. We have two children together, a 6 and 3 year old. It goes without saying that we are busy and often don’t get time together. In the past we’ve had our challenges but always worked through them although I think there’s still an element of resentment over some of the things sometimes.

He is helpful in so many ways, I work and he drops the kids off most day, does the washing, cleaning and laundry etc so I am incredibly appreciative of that. At the same time I find myself losing my temper more and more with him over not being present for myself and the kids. To the extent that I feel like I’m parenting alone sometimes.

It’s things like my son having tantrums (the 3 year old) and my partner just not being able to deal with it or communicate with him. So now I have to do everything but our son now doesn’t want to be with his dad at all only me. My partner gets frustrated with that but when I say spend some quality time together he spends maybe 5 minutes reading then gets his phone out to go on Twitter. My son’s behaviour then gets worse as he’s crying out for attention.

My partner hasn’t attended one parents evening for our daughter ever. He doesn’t help with her homework ever, do any reading with her etc.

If I don’t think of meals for him to add to our weekly shop he literally won’t buy food for the kids so it falls to me to do it which is another job on top of everything else
plus my full time job. He doesn’t even eat our dinners and makes his own.

In the evening he sits on the sofa on Twitter basically ignoring us all - I have to ask him constantly to talk to us but it’s like a chore. In the day he barely says two words to me outside of basic questions about who is doing what.

We’ve talked about it but nothing has changed and it’s always me trying to find a solution and im tired of it. It came to a head again this week as he made a passing comment about the kids needing an earlier bedtime and I lost it. I told him to
step up then and help out after I’ve done three plans for a better evening routine but I can do it without his help or should I say trying to fit around him. I said I feel like a convenient option for him to pay the bills and that he treats us as an inconvenience.

Last night I was making plans to go to the cinema with my stepdaughter (his dd from his previous marriage) - she’s staying with us and he hasn’t had more than a 5 minute discussion with her. We were really excited to go and he made this snide comment about at least it’s quiet in the cinema as he was grumpy trying to watch the football. I bit my tongue but raised it later to be told it was just a joke but it wasn’t.

Im seriously considering getting separation advice as we’re not married, he bought our house and is on the deeds but I provide all
the household income.

Am I over reacting?

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Clareretro1964 · 04/04/2024 11:36

Newcrocs · 04/04/2024 11:30

Why is he semi retiring if he can't afford to? Why was the deal that he buys the house in his own name and then stops working and you pay for everything? What was the benefit to you in that "deal", especially as you're not married?

I genuinely don't understand how you've managed to get into the situation where you fund him to do fuck all but yet he owns all the assets and if you split tomorrow you'd end up with nothing financially.

Because it wasn’t like this before. When we moved it was on the understanding that I was going to maintain my career and have to travel more. And my salary is more
than enough to cover everything. but the trade off was that he would then be present to look after the kids - take
them to school/ nursery. So that they would have one parent present rather than him working also.

as it happened I only have to travel once a month.

But yes re the deeds that is a problem and he’s agreed to change.

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scaredofff · 04/04/2024 11:40

Does he realise there's a problem? Or is he oblivious to there being issues?

What did you say to him when he had to ask about the name? I would have gone ballistic, brought up everything and the shame would likely bring my dp back to reality. Did you just answer the question and not challenge him?

It's their name and birthday ffs!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Clareretro1964 · 04/04/2024 11:44

scaredofff · 04/04/2024 11:40

Does he realise there's a problem? Or is he oblivious to there being issues?

What did you say to him when he had to ask about the name? I would have gone ballistic, brought up everything and the shame would likely bring my dp back to reality. Did you just answer the question and not challenge him?

It's their name and birthday ffs!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

I said you know it’s that name - I think he was being obtuse because of my rant the previous night.

He knows there’s a problem but he’s not
one for thrashing things out - he’s incredibly patient and calm which is one of the things I love about him. But I think he feels hurt and feels like I’m nagging him constantly. Which I admit, I a doing it but because I’m frustrated. when we make time to talk and have time on our own things definitely improve but we don’t do it enough and are at loggerheads. Me being the one that gets outwardly frustrated and angry and him that internalises it all.

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LordSnot · 04/04/2024 13:41

Clareretro1964 · 04/04/2024 11:24

Yes 4 days a week - he has Wednesdays at home with us.

So he's not a SAHD, just unemployed. He's living off you and showing no interest in his children. What's the downside to binning him and spending some of that maintenance money on a cleaner to replace him?

Nanny0gg · 04/04/2024 13:48

Clareretro1964 · 04/04/2024 11:15

Honestly it would be easier in a way. The deal was that he could semi retire when we bought this house and I would carry on working and pay for everything. I even pay his child maintenance for my step daughter. I work from home so can easily take and drop off the kids etc.

Get advice ASAP

You've left yourself in an incredibly vulnerable position

Nanny0gg · 04/04/2024 13:49

LordSnot · 04/04/2024 13:41

So he's not a SAHD, just unemployed. He's living off you and showing no interest in his children. What's the downside to binning him and spending some of that maintenance money on a cleaner to replace him?

Because it's his house...

Starfish11674 · 06/04/2024 12:57

OP, this is literally my life. Been with partner 8 years we have two DDs 5 and 3 and a DS 1, plus a daughter from partners previous.

I work full time, so does he, but I’m absolutely the default parent in every way. It’s exhausting and a massive mental drain. I do/think of all dinners, sort out parties and school trips. He does help domestically which I too am grateful for, but it’s not enough. He loses his temper with the kids a lot, despite me telling him that I feel as if we both grew up not being able to ‘feel our feelings’ without being reprimanded for them and it’s ruining his relationship with them all, especially the 5yo and his DD who’s 14.

I have tried many things, so I’m sorry I don’t have much advice on that front, but I hope it helps to know that you aren’t alone!

gemma19846 · 07/04/2024 00:08

Why doesnt he work?

unsync · 07/04/2024 07:30

What's stopping him going back to work? It would appear that being 'semi reitred' isn't doing much for his self esteem.

Nicole1111 · 07/04/2024 09:24

Tell him your current arrangement with him being at home is not sustainable since he’s not taking on the mental or emotional load, and tell him he either steps up or gets back to work. When you have this conversation go in prepared, do it in a public place so he can’t just have a strop, and take in 2 pieces of paper, 1 for each of you, where you have written down a list of all the tasks you each do to show the disparity. I’d also ask him to reflect on his relationships with his children during this conversation. Be prepared for a defensive reaction and give him a few days to process what you’ve said and show you how he’s going to respond. If he seems remorseful you can explore if he needs support, such as a gp or
counselling appointment. If he doesn’t then get legal advice etc.

zeibesaffron · 07/04/2024 09:55

Rosesanddaisies1 · 04/04/2024 10:57

“ he bought our house and is on the deeds but I provide all the household income.”. Sorry but how on earth have you allowed this to happen, if you’re not married. You are in an awfully dangerous financially situation. There’s far bigger issues here than him going on twitter

This⬆️ get this sorted straight away then make plans to leave!

Blobblobblob · 07/04/2024 10:38

What the ever loving fuck did I just read?

You're not married and pay for a house you have no right to?

This is a very very bad situation and the politest way I can phrase it is this : he is using you. He could make you homeless in a heartbeat, your status in law is lodger
with zero rights.

And you're paying his child maintenance and doing unpaid babysitting for his older kids.

He really saw you coming.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 07/04/2024 11:53

Go see a solicitor immediately and bring evidence of the mortgage payments you are making to his house!!

You have been incredibly naive here and have fuck all protection.

Am I wrong in thinking there is a large age gap here?

He is absolutely taking you for a complete ride.

LordSnot · 07/04/2024 17:32

The OP says he's on the deeds, suggesting they both are. Otherwise she'd say he owns the house or the house is in his name.

Venturini · 07/04/2024 17:35

Clareretro1964 · 04/04/2024 11:10

No I’m the primary carer - they would live with me. He doesn’t even know their birthdays or registered names at the doctor to make them an appointment. They’ll be with me!

He is beneath contempt. He doesnt even bother to read to his own children? What is he even for? Liberate yourself from this wasteman.

Venturini · 07/04/2024 17:36

Christ not married or on the deeds…. Good luck OP. Youre going to need it.

S251 · 08/04/2024 07:07

Why is your little one in nursery 4 days a week if your partner is at home? Could it be possible he maybe suffering from depression? Or sorry to be blunt but could he be having an affair?

grinandslothit · 08/04/2024 07:36

You're being 100% of the woman and 100% of the man in this relationship so what is the point of him?

CupversusMug · 08/04/2024 07:58

We were in a similar position when we first had kids, I was a SAHD, we weren't married & my DP went back to work full-time. But, the house was in her name (our choice)

He's either consciously taking the piss or there's some sort of depression causing his level of disengagement. I'll take your word that he was amazing with your first, so I'm leaning towards the latter.

He needs to address this issue, you're doing way more than your share in this relationship and if he won't, then I think you probably need to think about what kind of life you want for you and your children. I'd be mindful that he might be considered the primary carer (although he's clearly not, he's not even a SAHD he's just an out of work bloke in your house) but it sounds like he wouldn't want the kids with him anyway.

ThisTealZebra · 08/04/2024 10:00

he is a little bit lazy

However you will always need to do stuff too

Clareretro1964 · 08/04/2024 10:26

CupversusMug · 08/04/2024 07:58

We were in a similar position when we first had kids, I was a SAHD, we weren't married & my DP went back to work full-time. But, the house was in her name (our choice)

He's either consciously taking the piss or there's some sort of depression causing his level of disengagement. I'll take your word that he was amazing with your first, so I'm leaning towards the latter.

He needs to address this issue, you're doing way more than your share in this relationship and if he won't, then I think you probably need to think about what kind of life you want for you and your children. I'd be mindful that he might be considered the primary carer (although he's clearly not, he's not even a SAHD he's just an out of work bloke in your house) but it sounds like he wouldn't want the kids with him anyway.

Put it like this, I left an awful marriage and refused to have kids with my ex because of the way he behaved. I’m not someone who needed to have kids, I wanted them with my partner because he is kind, patient, he’s great at everything I’m bad at and likewise.
Theres lots of nuance as with most things but I do think there’s an element of him either being depressed or lonely. And that’s causing frustration. When he bought the house we moved 150 miles to be closer to my family. He wasn’t a massive socialite but he left his job, work friends, his stepdaughter stayed down there with her mom (she visits on weekends and holidays. I’m closer to my family now so we have extra support but he has no outlet at all. And I do think that’s potentially a big part of it, I’ve suggested running groups, Dads clubs, my brother has said so many times let’s grab a beer as I want him to have a fulfilling life here as well but I can’t make him do it!

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Clareretro1964 · 08/04/2024 10:28

S251 · 08/04/2024 07:07

Why is your little one in nursery 4 days a week if your partner is at home? Could it be possible he maybe suffering from depression? Or sorry to be blunt but could he be having an affair?

I think depression is potentially a factor and re the affair I don’t think so no. We’re always together, 98% of the time unless he’s getting our son or popping to the shop. And I think that is potentially part of the problem!

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Tiswa · 08/04/2024 10:34

I am confused by the house are you both on the deeds or just him and is the agreement legally written down
either way you pay and do everything - what is the point of him separate at least you are near your family

the7Vabo · 08/04/2024 12:45

I’m also confused about the house & a bit concerned about your potential financial vulnerability.

That said I think it’s important to try to understand where your husband is coming from. As you say I think it’s likely bf is depressed and also bored & lonely. He gave up a lot to move near your family, particularly being close to his daughter.
Also the impact of phone addition can’t be downplayed. I have a serious phone addiction (and here I am on Mumsnet).

Clareretro1964 · 08/04/2024 13:04

the7Vabo · 08/04/2024 12:45

I’m also confused about the house & a bit concerned about your potential financial vulnerability.

That said I think it’s important to try to understand where your husband is coming from. As you say I think it’s likely bf is depressed and also bored & lonely. He gave up a lot to move near your family, particularly being close to his daughter.
Also the impact of phone addition can’t be downplayed. I have a serious phone addiction (and here I am on Mumsnet).

Appreciate it’s hard to explain easily.

In a nutshell he sold and divided his assets from his previous home. When we moved he bought this house outright so I don’t pay any mortgage. This house, when he dies comes to me as per his will. We just haven’t got round to sorting the deeds. It’s effectively our investment so when the time comes we can downsize and free up money for the kids etc etc when needed/desired.
It’s given us a bigger degree of financial security and as he hated his job and I love mine I was happy to carry on my career on the basis he is happy being a sahd. But maybe the reality is different now he’s doing it. He does everything in the house but as per my note feels like there’s little left for the kids. I do think he needs something outside of the home to give him an outlet.

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