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Child unwell on school trip

334 replies

G172125 · 03/04/2024 19:43

My son is currently on a school trip to Disneyland. He started to feel unwell with stomach pains and vomiting. He got split up from he’s group and was left alone in Disney village. I managed to get hold of the teacher to let her know and she said she would go to him. My son then text me and said she said she Can’t go to him because she is queuing for a ride. Nobody bothered to go look for my son for two hours. Aibu to make a complaint about this and take it further?

OP posts:
Boxerdor · 03/04/2024 20:01

Your sons friends sound horrible to leave him.

I would expect there to be a teacher on duty in an agreed upon location - I wouldn’t be happy that school haven’t done this for a group of 15/16 year olds

G172125 · 03/04/2024 20:01

crumblingschools · 03/04/2024 19:57

Did he think Disney was more important than GCSEs?

i Don’t get the point of this message it’s 2 days and the school planned it

OP posts:
notnowmarmaduke · 03/04/2024 20:01

Tulipvase · 03/04/2024 19:59

Not free? I agree it’s not a holiday as such, but not free?

Edited

not when you factor in child care, pet care, family commitments, clothing, food, and everything else it takes to agree to spend your holiday with your work instead of at home..

RicePuddingWithCinnamon · 03/04/2024 20:01

hoarahloux · 03/04/2024 19:52

What about the other teenagers she's looking after?

If they aren’t ill then the teacher should look after the child who is ill.

Notadoormat4 · 03/04/2024 20:01

TheSnowyOwl · 03/04/2024 19:59

And the teacher is clearly looking after the entire group of children that the OP’s son split away from.

Then the teacher should have spoken to another teacher who could've gone to check on him.

There is no "looking after" unless it is needed. The OP's son needed looking after.

We were allowed to go around DP at 14/15 in groups of 3. Teachers were at check points.

LIZS · 03/04/2024 20:02

So he could have gone and found the teacher, rather than wait? Most trips dc went on had rendezvous points where a staff member would be posted. Ge had phone contact and could locate someone to help himself if needs be.

G172125 · 03/04/2024 20:04

TheSnowyOwl · 03/04/2024 19:59

And the teacher is clearly looking after the entire group of children that the OP’s son split away from.

She isn’t the rest of the kids are walking around in groups alone . Which I have no problem with but surely if someone takes Ill it’s the teachers responsibility to look after them

OP posts:
AlohaRose · 03/04/2024 20:05

So where is your son now?

Molonty · 03/04/2024 20:05

G172125 · 03/04/2024 19:57

Yes she was queuing for a ride. None of the other teachers came to look for him either. The was no meeting point just a number to keep in contact. The kids are allowed go around the parks without a teacher

So if they are allowed to wander around without a teacher, how is the teacher meant to keep track of everyone? If he got separated at the toilets, what difference would it make unless they have to walk around in groups?

Tulipvase · 03/04/2024 20:05

notnowmarmaduke · 03/04/2024 20:01

not when you factor in child care, pet care, family commitments, clothing, food, and everything else it takes to agree to spend your holiday with your work instead of at home..

So the school can force you to go on these trips? I work in a primary school and we do two residentials a year, and they don’t make anybody go. Of course, I understand if no one goes the children can’t go, but they certainly can’t make a teacher go…..

Cookiemiguel · 03/04/2024 20:05

LIZS · 03/04/2024 20:02

So he could have gone and found the teacher, rather than wait? Most trips dc went on had rendezvous points where a staff member would be posted. Ge had phone contact and could locate someone to help himself if needs be.

She was in the queue for two hours and then presumably on the ride? How was he supposed to find her if she was unwilling to leave the queue? Given he had stomach pains and was throwing up, I think it was more sensible of him to stay on the bench near the toilets

Layla30 · 03/04/2024 20:06

crumblingschools · 03/04/2024 19:57

Did he think Disney was more important than GCSEs?

What has that to do with this post?? The OP hasn’t mentioned his exams so why are you?

OnceUponARainbow88 · 03/04/2024 20:06

So to clarify… the school has taken a bunch of year 11s to Disney land just before exam season? Sorry; I’ve worked in some very disorganised schools and even they wouldn’t do this…!

notnowmarmaduke · 03/04/2024 20:06

Tulipvase · 03/04/2024 20:05

So the school can force you to go on these trips? I work in a primary school and we do two residentials a year, and they don’t make anybody go. Of course, I understand if no one goes the children can’t go, but they certainly can’t make a teacher go…..

it depends. yes, teachers can be pressurised to go, and forced to in many unofficial ways.

XelaM · 03/04/2024 20:07

Omg at 16 calling his mum in another country instead of the teacher/his friends/going to medical centre etc etc etc. This is ridiculous and quite embarrassing for a 16-year-old not being able to deal with this himself

CorvusPurpureus · 03/04/2024 20:07

It doesn't sound brilliantly organised.

Whenever I've done theme park trips, two teachers have been stationed somewhere central (usually cracking on with work on laptops at a cafe) & students know to go there if they get separated from their friends, are unwell etc.

If a student needs a teacher to go & find them in a dire emergency, one does that whilst the other stays put.

I would still expect a 16yo with a dicky tum to be able to find somewhere quiet to sit on his phone for a bit, though.

& yes to 'year 11s, Easter, on a jolly, wtaf?!'

G172125 · 03/04/2024 20:07

TheSnowyOwl · 03/04/2024 20:01

So why are you singling out the teacher who was queuing for the ride as being the one who was unreasonable rather than any of the other teacher?

I can’t believe there wasn’t a process in place and a teacher sat at a designated place for situations just like this.

I don’t if it’s one teacher or all teachers who knew but there was one number for what’s app

OP posts:
Cookiemiguel · 03/04/2024 20:08

TheSnowyOwl · 03/04/2024 19:59

And the teacher is clearly looking after the entire group of children that the OP’s son split away from.

Where did the op say that at all, let alone clearly? She said the groups were allowed to go around the park on their own, and her son was with his friends who left? You’ve completely made that up 🤷🏼‍♀️

Bushmillsbabe · 03/04/2024 20:08

They are amazing teachers to be giving up their school holiday to take children on a trip!
Difficult call for that teacher - leave other children (who could have included children with additional needs or health needs, and therefore needed closer supervision) to go check on OP's child, or trust OP's child to get back to hotel. Not an easy choice.

Alwaystired23 · 03/04/2024 20:08

I went to Disneyland on my own with my boyfriend when I was 16. We travelled all the way there and back on our own. I think a few hours on his own is ok.

Molonty · 03/04/2024 20:09

XelaM · 03/04/2024 20:07

Omg at 16 calling his mum in another country instead of the teacher/his friends/going to medical centre etc etc etc. This is ridiculous and quite embarrassing for a 16-year-old not being able to deal with this himself

Exactly! On here people are adamant that 16yo can have sex and it's no one's business, yet a 16yo can't use his senses to navigate himself. Can't he call another teacher, a friend, ask anyone passing by to get medical staff?

PickledPurplePickle · 03/04/2024 20:09

He's not a child, he's 16 - and you agreed for him to go where they would be in the park on their own, so you obviously don't think he is too young to cope with this

He split up from his group and had a teachers number, but called you instead - why didn't he call the teachers, or his friends?

mylittleitalianhome · 03/04/2024 20:10

I would be pissed off about this too op. Whether he’s 16 or 26, if you go on a group trip you’d expect someone to show an ounce of empathy and help get you back to the hotel. Especially as it’s actually the teachers’ job - they’re not there for a free jolly.

fungipie · 03/04/2024 20:11

Surely she took him to the Infirmary, where they have a teacher's number in case he gets worse. Teacher has the responsibility of the other kids- and if he is at Infirmary, is in good hands.

Tulipvase · 03/04/2024 20:11

notnowmarmaduke · 03/04/2024 20:06

it depends. yes, teachers can be pressurised to go, and forced to in many unofficial ways.

That’s shit then. I know a few secondary teachers, who are also MFL teachers, maybe they just expect to have to do it.