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Older Teenagers

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Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 02/04/2024 22:39

I've noticed with my 17 year old that the girls are more natural than the 20 something year olds. My DS has had one girlfriend who was naturally pretty and not much make up. He's now talking to a friend's Daughter who is also very natural.

He goes to the gym but they do seem less glamorous which is good.

Do you think fashion is changing with the young ones?

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UpsideLeft · 02/04/2024 22:43

Most girls wear minimal make up on a day to day basis but wear more when they go to parties

UpsideLeft · 02/04/2024 22:45

Same goes for their clothes

Normal basic clothes during the day and next to nothing super short tight clothes for partying

Beamur · 02/04/2024 22:45

I think there is a shift happening - the heavy contouring, big eyebrows etc are going out of fashion. Dewy healthy skin and more natural makeup is becoming very popular.

CloudywMeatballs · 02/04/2024 22:47

My daughters are both in their early 20's. Neither wears make up on a regular basis. Is that what you mean by natural?

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 02/04/2024 22:53

CloudywMeatballs · 02/04/2024 22:47

My daughters are both in their early 20's. Neither wears make up on a regular basis. Is that what you mean by natural?

Yes. I see a lot of 20's wearing heavy make up and hair extensions. I'm not being nasty. I was chatting to my friend's Daughter and thought she was so pretty.

I wad just wondering because my DS just seemed to like her and even though he worked out he doesn't seem to be after the heavily made up look.

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ForensicFlossy · 02/04/2024 22:56

I agree, my dd17 is very natural, regular gym sessions, very little or no make up and muted clothing colours. She always looks lovely as do her friends.

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 02/04/2024 22:57

I have always wore make up but naturally. One DSD wears minimal make up. The other one wears a lot when she goes out and is a stunner in her 20's.

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CloudywMeatballs · 03/04/2024 15:28

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 02/04/2024 22:53

Yes. I see a lot of 20's wearing heavy make up and hair extensions. I'm not being nasty. I was chatting to my friend's Daughter and thought she was so pretty.

I wad just wondering because my DS just seemed to like her and even though he worked out he doesn't seem to be after the heavily made up look.

I don't think I implied that you were being nasty. I just didn't know what you meant by natural.

As I said, my daughters are in their 20's and neither wears make up very often and they certainly don't have hair extensions. Neither do many of their friends. Maybe it's where you live?

Are you seriously suggesting that you would expect your son to be more attached to a young woman who wears heavy make up and hair extensions to one who doesn't? And somehow this is because he goes to the gym? Maybe he's less superficial than you are and likes a young woman because of who she is, not what she looks like or how "natural" she is.

Dartmoorcheffy · 03/04/2024 15:34

Hopefully the trend for slug eyebrows, inflated lips, and the make up of a drag queen is finally ending.

idontlikealdi · 03/04/2024 15:35

My DDs look like they're not wearing make up, they are wearing loads. I think hat is the trend now along with all the 'skincare'

goldenretrievermum5 · 03/04/2024 15:36

I agree, it’s a really good shift. DD and her friends are all very natural - no masses of fake tan, cakey foundation, false lashes or massive eyebrows here. Thank goodness!

KreedKafer · 03/04/2024 16:17

I think it's a bit weird that you're even bothered what makeup teenage girls are wearing. It's just fashion. Just because you don't like the heavy contoured makeup look, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. Being 'natural' doesn't make you a better person.

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 03/04/2024 16:18

CloudywMeatballs · 03/04/2024 15:28

I don't think I implied that you were being nasty. I just didn't know what you meant by natural.

As I said, my daughters are in their 20's and neither wears make up very often and they certainly don't have hair extensions. Neither do many of their friends. Maybe it's where you live?

Are you seriously suggesting that you would expect your son to be more attached to a young woman who wears heavy make up and hair extensions to one who doesn't? And somehow this is because he goes to the gym? Maybe he's less superficial than you are and likes a young woman because of who she is, not what she looks like or how "natural" she is.

Wow, you have totally took what I was saying out on context.

I was saying I liked how he preferred the natural look.

Honestly, how do posters manage to get angry without asking what people mean.

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KreedKafer · 03/04/2024 16:19

I wad just wondering because my DS just seemed to like her and even though he worked out he doesn't seem to be after the heavily made up look.

What on earth has your DS working out got to do with the sort of girls he likes?

EvenStillIWantTo · 03/04/2024 16:20

I think the trend is changing; my DD went through a false eyelashes and fake tan phase which I tried not to say too much about, but looks a lot more natural recently. Still the lashes but not that noticeable and mostly because doesn't like mascara.

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 03/04/2024 16:20

KreedKafer · 03/04/2024 16:17

I think it's a bit weird that you're even bothered what makeup teenage girls are wearing. It's just fashion. Just because you don't like the heavy contoured makeup look, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. Being 'natural' doesn't make you a better person.

I'm glad I posted this under a different user name. I do think the natural look is nicer.

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CloudywMeatballs · 03/04/2024 16:22

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 03/04/2024 16:18

Wow, you have totally took what I was saying out on context.

I was saying I liked how he preferred the natural look.

Honestly, how do posters manage to get angry without asking what people mean.

I was trying to understand what you were saying, and if you go back and read your posts you'll see that they were not at all clear. I didn't see anywhere where you said that you liked that he preferred the natural look.

I still think it's somewhat odd that you have any interest in what physical attributes your son finds attractive, rather than what kind of person he is attracted to. And I still don't understand what any of this has to do with going to the gym.

TeaAndBrie · 03/04/2024 16:24

My DD is 17 and in year 12. She doesn’t wear make up day to day and is happiest in joggers and a hoody. She likes to do her hair and makeup if going out with her friends etc and love wearing heels. I think the fakery is definitely dissipating and I’m here for it - big lips, fake eyelashes, hair extensions, all age people in my opinion

Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 03/04/2024 16:30

CloudywMeatballs · 03/04/2024 16:22

I was trying to understand what you were saying, and if you go back and read your posts you'll see that they were not at all clear. I didn't see anywhere where you said that you liked that he preferred the natural look.

I still think it's somewhat odd that you have any interest in what physical attributes your son finds attractive, rather than what kind of person he is attracted to. And I still don't understand what any of this has to do with going to the gym.

I'll leave you get angry.

My DS got quite big in lockdown and I'm proud he took to exercise and got fit. Yes, I think it's nice that he likes girls who aren't aiming to look false and just be their lovely natural selves.

I think the whole cosmetic trend is damaging and I just thought it was nice that the next generation might be changing their views on it.

I'm not going to stay around for a pile on.

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Ilovegavinandstacey2024 · 03/04/2024 16:35

KreedKafer · 03/04/2024 16:19

I wad just wondering because my DS just seemed to like her and even though he worked out he doesn't seem to be after the heavily made up look.

What on earth has your DS working out got to do with the sort of girls he likes?

I am proud he got healthy because I was worried about him.

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Beezknees · 03/04/2024 17:00

I think makeup fashions are changing, definitely.

Why does it matter what men like though? I have a 16yo DS and I don't care if he likes girls that don't wear makeup or girls that wear loads. This sexism about women who wear makeup looking "false" and that we should all care what men think about it is so tiresome.

Zanatdy · 03/04/2024 17:01

My nieces age 29 and 23 wear heavy make up, my DD 16 and DS’s girlfriend wear no make up

CloudywMeatballs · 03/04/2024 17:04

I don't know what "I'll leave you get angry" means.

I don't buy your initial hypothesis that a lot of young women in their 20's aim to look false, whereas older teens don't. I just haven't seen that both with my own daughters and the young people I see around me.

Regardless, I agree with you that heavy make up, hair extensions, etc. usually look ridiculous. I don't know that many men are attracted to those kinds of things, are they? I know my husband isn't. If I had a son I'd be surprised if he did think that was attractive. But I don't think I would spend much time considering what physical attributes by son was attracted to rather than the type of person that appealed to him.

You should be very proud of your son for getting in shape and being healthy, but - again - what does this have to do with whether someone looks "natural" or not?

CloudywMeatballs · 03/04/2024 17:06

Beezknees · 03/04/2024 17:00

I think makeup fashions are changing, definitely.

Why does it matter what men like though? I have a 16yo DS and I don't care if he likes girls that don't wear makeup or girls that wear loads. This sexism about women who wear makeup looking "false" and that we should all care what men think about it is so tiresome.

I completely agree. It's so superficial and is not how my husband and I have raised our kids. I don't understand why OP is so interested in what her son finds attractive about a young woman's appearance.

Hoplolly · 03/04/2024 17:09

My DS tells me he doesn't really like girls who wear too much make up etc and why shouldn't he? That's his preference and he can state it. He really dislikes the orange, and the fake tan look - it's just not something he finds attractive.

My DD doesn't wear much make up, except when she goes out out. A light covering for school but even then, if she's running late she just won't bother. (I'm horrified, I've not left the house without making up on in 30 years!)

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