Older Teenagers

[Ilovegavinandstacey2024]

I've noticed with my 17 year old that the girls are more natural than the 20 something year olds. My DS has had one girlfriend who was naturally pretty and not much make up. He's now talking to a friend's Daughter who is also very natural.

He goes to the gym but they do seem less glamorous which is good.

Do you think fashion is changing with the young ones?

I completely agree. It's so superficial and is not how my husband and I have raised our kids. I don't understand why OP is so interested in what her son finds attractive about a young woman's appearance.

Good lord. Wind your neck in. It's just a topic of discussion. On a discussion forum.

And that's what I'm doing. Discussing it. On this discussion forum.

But you're not are you, you're not discussing the actual topic. You're just poking at the OP.

The question was "Do you think fashion is changing with the young ones?".

Tends to go together (around here anyway) gym lads who are very body concious and always either working out or at the barbers, paired up with young women who go for a very 'glam' made up look.

I couldn't care less how much make up the girl my son is dating wears. Very strange that would even bother you. Its ridiculous and misogynistic that other women are dragging young women for how much make up they are wearing.

I agree that the look is changing. 17YO here and she wears less make up than I do. The whole group wear very subtle/little make up and hair is loose, not straightened or styled. I like it! I also feel kind of old in my lipstick, but oh well.

He can be attracted to whatever he wants, no one is saying he can't.

I just dislike this mindset that women should care what males think!

And it's a bit of snobbery to be honest, like somehow women who don't wear makeup are "better" than those who don't.

I think it really depends on the girls. Most young girls wear minimal make up day to but go absolutely all out for a night out/special occasion.

Although DS is at a very high ranked Uni and all of the girls he knows even on photos of a special night out all look very natural and must only wear very minimal make up.

I think it's regional as well, I've noticed certain areas (stereotypically Essex or Manchester or something) where it's still super glam but in other areas more natural. Maybe rural Vs city. But I do see lots of younger girls not going all out and dressing less flashy and less heavy make up than I have in recent years

I just dislike this mindset that women should care what males think!

And nobody is saying that women should care are they?

My dds prefer the made up look and I can tell you that they are both intelligent, independent, kind, empathetic and wonderful human beings that any young man would be lucky to know.

Make up may be ‘superficial’ but so is judging young women on their looks.

Coming on here announcing that your DS's prefer no makeup on women is weird. The insinuation is that it's "better".

Especially with the snide remarks about the "fake" and "orange" look. It's so obvious what the insinuation is.

It is better and its good that young women know they don't have to make adjustments. Are the women defending this walking around with fish lips. You might be doing this for yourself but most people think you look weird.

It is better.

My DS (ND - 22 but young for his age) has always preferred girls that don't wear lots of makeup or dress "girly". He says "he likes the normal ones".

That's what I was trying to say.

I'm glad the young women aren't trying to be false and just more natural for themselves. Hopefully the big pouty lips will become unfashionable. The older women buying into it look desperate.

No, I don't have "fish lips". I just don't think I'm better than those that do.

This is exactly the point I'm making. "Most people think you look weird" and why is your opinion on how someone looks of any importance? It's nothing to do with you.

Cringe. If my DS said this I'd call him out for it. Dressing girly is normal. Not dressing girly is normal. Terrible attitude.

No it isn't. Stop putting down women.

I agree that either is ok, it's up to individual choice.

But - in his opinion, and he is entitled to an opinion - he finds that he relates better to girls that are not constantly bothered about their appearance.

He may phrase it in a way that you don't like, but part of his neurospiciness is difficulties with language and expression. It doesn't lessen what he thinks, just because he phrases it oddly.

Nothing to call him out on. He hasn't said anything detrimental about anyone. We all have our types that we are attracted to.

It's the turn of phrase "normal girls" that I'd call out. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having preferences but insinuating that there is something wrong with girls who wear makeup isn't nice. I'd not be impressed if my DS said that about women.

These girls are looking up to older women who look like this though so think that's how think they should look. I was saying I hope the next generation don't go down the big lips etc road.

@5128gap understood my linking guys who look after themselves are often with these overly done up girls.

I don't spend much time thinking about it and wouldn't say anything about any girl he bought home.

I'm middle aged and can remember Katie Price being so pretty but she obviously didn't think she could be herself.

I believe that women can do what they want but you don't get many men having lips enlarged especially in their 20's.