to be annoyed to be given "useful" tips on how to cure my ds's speech delay...

[emkana]

... by a friend who has no SALT qualification and no experience of speech delay.

I can do without it, frankly.

how is your dear sweet boy now emkana?

dd2 had a speech delay, no idea on what the situation is with your ds, but at 5, dd2 has almost caught up with her peers but still struggles a bit.

repeat to self "she means well, she means well"
no, yanbu

oh good lord

i have a friend who deals well with this

she says 'yes, oh, yes, I see' and then pauses and says 'oh, are you training in this field then?'

very nice version of 'f*ck off now and completely'

misdee, ds is very well, he understands everything and interacts well so I am not that worried, but still a bit worried. Good to hear about your dd.

And btw, I haven't said CONGRATULATIONS to you yet!!! COngratulations!

choosyfloosy, that is brilliant

thanks for the congratulations

understanding is good, yes dd2 understood, but couldnt make herself understood, was a real problem for a while as it was the root of a lot of her issues.

how old is he now?

He's 21 months (so still young, I tell myself )

yes very young

dd3 didnt really start talking properly till past 2years old. she now chats for england. even in her sleep.

dd2 (speech delay) was talking properly even at almost 3. she was talking but it was comprehensible.

i remember being worried when dd3 was 2 and someone pointed out she didnt need to speak as dd1+2 doted on her and did everything she wanted anyway. it still holds true now.

Is not talking at 21 months a speech delay? My dd2 is 2 in June and doesn't talk. She says odd word but really not much.
My best friend little boy didn't talk until he was 2 and half.

does he say nothing then?

If I apply a lot of goodwill I could say that he says about three words.

I mind a little girl (almost 31 months) and she doesn't speck alot. Understands everything, but doesn't want to rush anything. Her dad is a very laid back kind of person and she takes after him.

I was told recently that when speaking to a child you should give them a minimum of 7 seconds before they reply. So started to do this and she has begun to say words. Says my name and names of other children in the setting, begun to sing some lines from the one nursary rhyme we are all teaching her. But more importantly she is beginning to talk to her peers and assert herself with words.

My DS had speech delay and had issues in asserting himself (a biter) which has caused problems well into Yr2.

Oh Emkana.
Tell her to fuck off.
From me.

that's very good advice you were given there DeeMid about giving plenty of time to respond.

funniest suggestion I ever had was that DS had delayed speech "because he's big"?????? erm yes, he's obviously concentrating his mind on growing, silly me.

i have this all the time ds is 3 next month ut to be honest at 21 mths i didnt worry as was giving until 2 half to pick speech up

ds will be having assessments soon as speech is coming alomg as it should although his understanding is great also lacks in areas i never really thought about but is noticeable at pre school

try not to worry too much as i think your ds is still very young to be worrying too much

good advise i have been given from SALT is talk through everything your doing all the time

mummy cooking dinner , mummy putting dinner on blue plate

blue cup or red if they dont speak but point thats right the red cup

once i started doing this i noticed he started saying more words

and also they told me to siplify what i was saying using 3 words good luck

Emkana, do you have a DD who is older than your DS? Because 5 mothers I know who had a daughter first, have worried that their son has speech problems (I think because girls speak better and earlier than boys).

Some sent their sons to speech pathologists the rest didn't. By the time they were 4 there was no difference in speech between those who did and those who didn't.

Boys who are only children do tend to speak better than those who aren't but that's because they don't have siblings to answer for them so that forces them to practice more.

Today I went to visit a friend and she asked ds "would you like a drink" and he said "yeah"

I was thrilled

21 months and lack of coherent speech is nothing to be worried about, em.

My little boy never went through the stage of da da, ma ma, ooh aah and laa laa. In fact, he didn't even cry when he was born. He was the quietest, most serene baby on the planet. He said diddly-squat for nearly two years.

And then, at 23 months, he spoke. In full sentences! Sentences of more than five words.

As others have implied, speech delay can often be a cause for celebration, not concern. He's thinking about it .. he's weighing up his first sentence.

Worry not!

Some people don't speak much. I can't shut my dd up long enough to squeeze my own words out at times but I've known plenty of people you'd swear had been brought up by Trappist monks but were perfectly articulate people on other occasions. The only thing dd won't do is talk to people she doesn't like or trust - you could always try that line if all else fails.

just wanted to say 21 months is very very young my ds wasnt much of a talker untill 27 months then he was talking the ears off us!

problem with the optimistic attitude of the "cause for celebration" line and waiting and seeing is when you end up with a 3 year old who still can't string two words together. and then you have to wait 8 months for NHS appointment and 13 months for a paediatrician appointment to try and figure out why this is happening, as your child falls further and further behind their contemporaries.

My ds is almost 4 and has severe speech delay. He is VERY bright (easily as bright as my 6yr old), he understands everything. He chatters away a bit but people who don't know him can't understand much... speech therapy has so far failed to help one dot, despite them giving me endless advice on techniques I have been using for 3 years.

Im not in the slightest worried. Hes top of the class at nursery, he is a happy, sociable boy with plenty of friends. Hes a bit frustrated by not being able to communicate with adults very easily but somehow manages everything!

He will catch up when he is ready..how many adults do you meet who can't talk. Im used now to everyone I meet offering me advice on how I could 'help' him. I always not smile and say 'if only it were that simple we would have had him talking 2 years ago, but thanks for trying to help'. People normally only offer me advice once

Try not to worry about what others think.

Daisy

"I always not smile"

Remove the not!

Sorry Daisy

Emkana- I was told the other day that what I had to do is just speak to DS more- (He has autism) Oh so that's where I've been going wrong .

"As others have implied, speech delay can often be a cause for celebration, not concern. He's thinking about it .. he's weighing up his first sentence"
sorry that is easy to say unless after 13 years you are still waiting.

Oh yep, we get that one too. DS3 is on the 1st centile for speech (receptive and expressive)

TC is right, its all very well for people to say its a cause for celebration until you have a child where it isn't, it's a severe issue and then you need to wait for SALT, paed appointments, maybe assessment at specialist unit (ds3 beinga ssessed shortly, but at tehe nd of reception year when he needed help BEFORE that)

Earlier the better for getting help i reckon, you can always pull off a waiting list, you can't slot yourself in higher up when your elaise they're startings chool and can't even pronounce their own name

i would agree if you strongly feel things are niot coming along to deal with sooner as my ds nearly 3 been told to wait and wait and still no SALT

waiting for assessments with multi disciplinery yeam and on a whole it has been stressful and worrying as i pointed all this out a yr ago and still have no help

still in my last post said 21mths is still so young and it is but next few months can go by so quick so maybe is best and if things improve then great and if not you will be half way there with help needed good luck