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To overthrow our government

120 replies

DahliaRose3 · 02/04/2024 12:27

Another pay day, and another depressing financial month ahead. I’m fuming that our nursery costs are so high! No, I don’t want to have to cut back everything because I work a stressful job at 40+ hours a week and I want to enjoy my life at 40+ years old & the coffee & occasional weekend brunch I buy. I don’t have the option to cut back hours in my job.

My partner and I earn well on paper (for the first time in our lives we were getting ahead financially), but have next to nothing to show for it. No new clothing, nor fancy trips, nor fancy dates out. We aren’t flash. I genuinely worry about my pension, this deficit is contributing to the fact that I don’t own a home, or have decent savings.

How are we the British public standing for this extortion! We are being exploited as women, families, and the general public.

AIBU? We need to all stand together, and walk out. Strike! The parents, the grandparents filling in as free childcare, the nursery workers.

Don't even bother replying if you’re not in agreement at the absolute sh*t show of a set up!

This has nothing to do with being grateful, it’s an horrid potion that they’ve forced families into. Having a baby is for the wealthy, as many can’t even afford children.

OP posts:
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/04/2024 14:33

Toastednut · 02/04/2024 13:11

Good luck.

Labour will be in soon, and will do absolutely nothing - they won't improve anything. It would make me laugh that people think they'll fix all the issues, but it's really not funny.

People won't strike because striking costs money.

Our hands are tied.

They can’t be worse than current lot. Nothing works in this country. Nothing.

Trains
NHS
Courts
Pharmacy and medicines
Schools
Social Services
Childrens Services
Chilcare

Every single piece of infrastructure has collapsed. How can Labour be worse than this?

Hereyoume · 02/04/2024 14:33

It's really simple to understand OP.

The vast majority of people in the UK will NEVER resist or actively disobey any government law or policy.

They will say it's wrong, they may even post about it on Web forums, but they will never actually do anything about it.

The idea of a democratic government is that it works for the majority of the people. By its very definition, there should never be any policies or laws which the majority of people disagree with. The government would work on behalf of the people, its remit, simply to run the administration of the state as the people saw fit.

But successive Governments have, over the decades, stripped the people of both the will and the literal legal right to disagree or challenge policies. Don't forget, it is now quite literally illegal to protest without permission.

We now work FOR the Government, we are secondary to the political vanity project that is parliament. We exist only to generate sufficient tax income so that those in power can continue with the charade.

And don't kid yourself that any other Government would fair better. We have come too far to see the way back. Our young people are more concerned with being offended than they are with the future of this country.

Mairzydotes · 02/04/2024 14:34

scalt · 02/04/2024 14:00

We need a rule that nobody is allowed to enter Parliament unless they have worked in a customer facing role, preferably low paid, at some point in their life. Too many politicians are born into wealth -> posh school -> oxbridge -> Parliament, never dipping a toe into the world the rest of us live in.

Like Rishi Sunak , who worked in a restaurant?

whistleblower99 · 02/04/2024 14:35

This is mn op. Its top trumps poverty and misery on here. Who has it the worst and race to the bottom. You won’t get any sympathy. You’ll be told to pay your taxes so people can sit on here all day bitching about you.

Eyesopenwideawake · 02/04/2024 14:36

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/04/2024 13:09

Inflation has fucked us all over.

And who's fault was that? Liz Truss!!

Sparklybutold · 02/04/2024 14:37

Dear OP. I completely agree. What's the point? I'm working in a job that requires I care for others and yet struggle financially that it causes me so much stress.

Papyrophile · 02/04/2024 14:41

Covid/furlough, interest rates returning to normal levels, and war in Ukraine coming so close together have caused the inflation, although Liz Truss didn't help.

Not sure about eating seagulls: round here they mug humans for food in city centres!

MrKDilkington · 02/04/2024 14:41

It's shit beyond belief.
We don't have kids, so no childcare costs for us. I earn a salary beyond my wildest expectations and, thanks to 2 promotions in quick succession, had a 38% pay rise in the last 12 months. I have VERY little to show for it thanks to rising costs across the board, and felt much more comfortable on a much lower salary 10 years ago.

CroftonWillow · 02/04/2024 14:42

Eyesopenwideawake · 02/04/2024 14:36

And who's fault was that? Liz Truss!!

Jesus wept.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/04/2024 14:44

GHSP · 02/04/2024 13:51

if you look around the world at countries where the government has been overthrown or where power has changed hands by means other than the ballot box, you won’t find any great exemplars of robust public services and stable financial environments.

Yeah, but, yeah but has childcare got cheaper?.

0sm0nthus · 02/04/2024 14:47

Mairzydotes · 02/04/2024 14:34

Like Rishi Sunak , who worked in a restaurant?

And thought it was appropriate to ask a homeless man if he was in business.

PutASpellOnYou · 02/04/2024 14:49

I pay no attention to any of it, life still goes on the same. People are stupid for getting so het up about it all, actually thinking their vote will make a difference. Dream on.
Nobody should vote, hopefully the bunch of idiots will all lose their jobs. Can't be any worse than what it is now.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 02/04/2024 14:49

Eyesopenwideawake · 02/04/2024 14:36

And who's fault was that? Liz Truss!!

No, try blaming Putin.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/04/2024 14:51

PutASpellOnYou · 02/04/2024 14:49

I pay no attention to any of it, life still goes on the same. People are stupid for getting so het up about it all, actually thinking their vote will make a difference. Dream on.
Nobody should vote, hopefully the bunch of idiots will all lose their jobs. Can't be any worse than what it is now.

No, they'd return a government by default.
It would please some politicians no end to not be tested through the ballot box.

Charlie2121 · 02/04/2024 14:53

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/04/2024 14:33

They can’t be worse than current lot. Nothing works in this country. Nothing.

Trains
NHS
Courts
Pharmacy and medicines
Schools
Social Services
Childrens Services
Chilcare

Every single piece of infrastructure has collapsed. How can Labour be worse than this?

Wait and see. I think many with short memories are in for a huge awakening.

PotatoPudding · 02/04/2024 14:54

It is not a right to have childcare funded. We are very privileged in this country to actually get help with it. If you want more disposable income, seek to earn more money.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/04/2024 14:54

The problem is people not actually voting.
If people turned out and voted, it could make a difference.
Voter apathy.

MrKDilkington · 02/04/2024 14:58

PotatoPudding · 02/04/2024 14:54

It is not a right to have childcare funded. We are very privileged in this country to actually get help with it. If you want more disposable income, seek to earn more money.

I say this as someone who is childfree by choice...but do you not want British people having children anymore? Because funded childcare is one small incentive to encourage people to do so (at a point in history where increasing numbers of people are like me, and think it all looks too logistically and financially complex to bother).

Charlie2121 · 02/04/2024 15:04

The reality is that resources are finite therefore population growth means average resources per person has to reduce.

I’m well inside the top 1% of earners in the UK yet have nowhere near the buying power, particularly where property is concerned, that a similar top 1% earner would have enjoyed 20 years ago.

Gingernurt88 · 02/04/2024 15:08

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/04/2024 14:33

They can’t be worse than current lot. Nothing works in this country. Nothing.

Trains
NHS
Courts
Pharmacy and medicines
Schools
Social Services
Childrens Services
Chilcare

Every single piece of infrastructure has collapsed. How can Labour be worse than this?

If some of these were invested back in 2010 our economy would be in a much better position now. I work within freight and lack of investment in rail is a massive issue. There was a lot of people in the rail industry that although not surprised by HS2 being shelved were very angry about the lack of foresight by people that are only looking at the initial figures and not the bigger picture. The fact that we had the ability to get from ship to customers doors and vice versa in a short timeframe compared to road can't be underestimated.

Charlie2121 · 02/04/2024 15:10

MrKDilkington · 02/04/2024 14:58

I say this as someone who is childfree by choice...but do you not want British people having children anymore? Because funded childcare is one small incentive to encourage people to do so (at a point in history where increasing numbers of people are like me, and think it all looks too logistically and financially complex to bother).

If you don’t have family who can help then you need around £70k spare, possibly
more in London, to fund childcare for one child until school age if you’re a higher earner. It is an insane amount of money particularly when you will be funding some of it from income that has already been taxed at 62%.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 02/04/2024 15:11

IMustDoMoreExercise · 02/04/2024 14:25

So do something about it and become an MP rather than just complaining.

Thanks for the advice but I have a job, a meaningful one which I do well. Politics isn't for me thanks but I do expect that the people who choose that as a career, to do it properly.

Is that really too much to ask?

coastalhawk · 02/04/2024 15:13

YANBU! Childcare is a joke, and a deeply sexist one at that.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 02/04/2024 15:14

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/04/2024 14:54

The problem is people not actually voting.
If people turned out and voted, it could make a difference.
Voter apathy.

How do you know that people are not voting? I've never NOT voted, I think it's a waste of time but I will still exercise my right to do it.

I'm probably guilty of apathy as I don't see the point - but I still vote anyway. I don't agree with people not voting but I understand why they might think there's little point to it.

We need a hero to vote for; we don't even have a competent.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/04/2024 15:15

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 02/04/2024 15:14

How do you know that people are not voting? I've never NOT voted, I think it's a waste of time but I will still exercise my right to do it.

I'm probably guilty of apathy as I don't see the point - but I still vote anyway. I don't agree with people not voting but I understand why they might think there's little point to it.

We need a hero to vote for; we don't even have a competent.

I know this from the research eg Hansard. They have the statistics. You can look up the turnout for all the elections, including the referendum.

I'm not referring to you personally.

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