Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

[Opol]

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

No, no piggybacking, From the other thread:
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So, to make a long story short: a long time ago the Jewish people were living in Egypt, working for the ruler (farao). The Jewish people (Israel) wanted to leave. Farao was reluctant, but finally let them go. Jews celebrate this at Passover/Pesach. Jesus went to Jerusalem to celebrate this festival. The "partymeal" (seder) is what Christians call ,"the last supper" and this is this is the origin of holy communion.
After the last supper Jesus was arrested and crucified (Good Friday) and rose on the third day (Easter Sunday).
Does that make sense?

I chose not to judge

Easter started as a pre-Christian festival - welcoming spring, new life, fertility, rabbits and eggs are symbols of fertility, Easter and eastrogen have the same root.

Different root - oestrogen is from oestrus, Easter (probably) from Eostre.

www.etymonline.com/word/Easter

www.etymonline.com/word/oestrus

Most people see Christmas and Easter as a good reason to get together with family and enjoy precious time together. The chocolate and gifts are a bonus. I don't see how a Christian could be upset with that.

That may have been the original interpretation of the Christian Easter, but when Christians infiltrated pagan countries they used existing elements of ostara/spring celebrations to shoe horn Christianity into a non Christian celebration

@Rainrainrainrainrainrainrain But there were no dates given when all this happened. In order to spread Christianity to those who had no knowledge of it, it appears that Christianity did indeed piggback on existing pagan holidays being celebrated in spring and winter to make the events more relatable. That is why the date of Easter changes every year instead of having a fixed date. It's after the spring equinox.

I have a gorgeous doorpost and we ll be very intimate later as it needs a bit of tlc.
Judge me not

They also piggybacked on other religious places and traditions. It was an excellent tactic that diverted attention. For a time, many of the early religions such as Paganism celebrated both so by amalgamating the two, Christianity could overtake. Which it did, all over the world, very successfully.

What is this other thread?

Agree @Justpontificating

I’ve found them more and more hard to find.
Agree JLewis always do excellent sets but otherwise your standard supermarkets and card shops go for the standard Victorian or winter snow scenes, robins, and piles of presents.

There were definitely dates. But It's complicated!

https://www.learnreligions.com/easter-related-to-passover-3970737

If they are harder to find (which I doubt), then what does that suggest?
Is the market for such cards limited? Is the demand low?
Maybe - Christianity just isn't a big thing for many people.

Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.

John 15, 13.

Thank you Jesus 🙏

So called Christian values that this country was based on

Persecution - UK Parliament

Strict uniformity of religious worship among the people was a vital political priority during the 17th century. Those who did not support the Church were seen by monarchs and their advisers as a threat to the state and the social order

After the Gunpowder Plot of 1605 Parliament passed a series of oppressive measures adding to the restrictions imposed on Catholics during Elizabeth I's reign.
Large numbers of laws aimed at enforcing membership of the established Church were passed. But the House of Commons was increasingly made up of extreme Protestants, so there were arguments about what form that Church should take. For example, in 1642, in accordance with instructions from the Speaker of the House of Commons, returns were made to Parliament of those who made the protestation ‘to maintain the true Reformed Protestant Religion', which was in fact a veiled attack on the King's Anglicanism. Ultimately religious conflict within Parliament led to the English Civil War.

Post-restoration Parliaments nevertheless chose firmly to defend the established Church. During the 1660s and 1670s a series of penal laws were enacted which persecuted both Catholics and members of the various nonconformist groups.
Enforcement of these laws unleashed a period of violent religious disturbance and hatred across England, Scotland and Wales.

Under the Test and Corporation Acts, holders of public office - including peers and MPs - schoolmasters, clergy, students of Oxford and Cambridge, members of local corporations and others, all had to swear an oath upholding the position of the King as head of the Church of England.

Those who did not risked losing most of their civil rights. Attending Catholic worship or nonconformist religious meetings was declared illegal and punishable by fine or imprisonment.

No one knows exactly what happened and which other religion Christians were piggy backing. We will likely never know. But that doesn't mean other people cannot celebrate in their own way

More Christian values this country was based on

The medieval Church - UK Parliament

Before the 16th century any action taken by Parliament in religious matters was in support of the Catholic Church. Its first concern was to uphold the Church's authority against any threats to its position.

Since the Norman Conquest in 1066 small communities of Jews had existed among the Christian populations in English towns. Their involvement in finance arose from the fact that Christians were not allowed to practise usury – lending money in return for interest payments.
By the 12th century their influence and ready access to money had made them much hated and subject to harsh exploitation by needy monarchs. Many were expelled from towns, and shameless killings took place such as the massacre at York in 1189.
In 1275 Parliament gave approval to the Statute of the Jewry which barred Jews from lending for profit.
Through this new law Edward I seems to have tried to integrate Jews within society by encouraging their involvement in other commercial activity and areas like agriculture, but the continuing prejudice against them resulted in a royal edict for their expulsion from England in 1290.
They would not be readmitted again until the 1650s.

In 1401 Parliament took action against believers known by the abusive term of Lollards or mumblers. The Lollards included some MPs – who from the 1380s began to speak out against important aspects of the Church and its thinking.
Inspired by the writings of the Oxford academic John Wyclif, they objected to the meanings attached to certain rituals used in church worship. They also felt that more attention should be given to God's own words as revealed in the Bible, than on interpretations made by the Church.

Before the fifteenth century the English Church had been largely free of this kind of heresy or deviation from its teachings. But in 1401 Parliament enacted a law called De Heretico Comburendo -

On the burning of heretics - by which Lollard leaders were liable for imprisonment, trial and execution. It is thought that about 100 people were burned for heresy under this Act.

As OPs original post it’s all about consumerism and overconsumption these days.
Before Sunday opening there was more awareness but Capatalism and peoples propensity to consume has changed the narrative to some extent.
Whilst some 46% of the population consider themselves Christian ( in this country, many more in others )many who don’t still send cards but they are looking for the classic snow and holly.

Perhaps Christian’s don’t want to push their own religious beliefs on others and go with the standard supermarket flow.

The market for all celebratory cards these days is also reducing, it’s just a round Rodin email or WhatsApp these days anyway.

Each to their own

It's quite fascinating to read about the so called Christian values this nation was built on.

Religion and belief: Overview - UK Parliament

Persecution
Heresy
Excluding people

@Rainrainrainrainrainrainrain That's an extremely convoluted explanation. However, it does state that the The formula for calculating Easter was set down at the Council of Nicaea in 325 set out that "Easter is the first Sunday that follows the paschal full moon, which is the full moon that falls on or after the spring equinox.". They left out passover altogether, and adopted dates important in pagan traditions. This would be in keeping in introducing Christianity to the west.

The use of pagan symbols in Christianity in the west is plain to see, even down to bringing available greenery in winter indoors like pine and the symbolism of mistletoe in the celebrations of the winter solstice.

it’s just a round Rodin email

Is that one that makes you think?

Im angry that the Christian stole the pagan holiday for renewal and rebirth

Oh hang on, isn’t that the same story?

More Christian values this country was based on - none of this seems very Christian - and I wonder what Jesus would have made of it.

I wonder how much of this is known by people who say this country was based on Christian values.

1275 Statute of the Jewry barred Jews from lending money in return for payments of interest

1290 Jews expelled from England

1380s Beginnings of the Lollard heresy

1401 Statute De Heretico Comburendo authorised the arrest of suspected Lollards

1534 Act of Uniformity declared Henry VIII supreme head of the Church of England

1535 and 1539 Acts passed to dissolve the monasteries and sell their lands

1542 Witchcraft Act defined witchcraft as a crime punishable by death

1549 Act of Uniformity established a Book of Common Prayer to be used instead of Catholic mass throughout the English Church

1552 Second Book of Common Prayer published, containing fewer Catholic elements in church worship

1553-58 England returned to Catholicism under Mary I

1558 Accession of Elizabeth I

1559 April Act of Supremacy reversed the reconciliation with Rome and declared Elizabeth I supreme governor of the Church of England

1559 May Act of Uniformity enforced a revised version of the 1552 Prayer Book with some Catholic elements restored. Penalties on clergy who refused to use it

1580 Religion Act set out punishments for Catholics, and fines for non-attendance at church

1592 Popish Recusants Act: no Catholics to travel more than five miles from their homes

1604 Witchcraft Act removed trial of witches from church to common law courts

1605 Popish Recusants Act tightened law against Catholics

1649-60 Civil War: Abolition of the Church of England and a ban on the use of the Prayer Book

1656 Cromwell gave permission for Jews to resettle in London

1660 Restoration of Charles II and the Church of England

1661 Corporation Act restricted holding of public offices to Anglicans

1662 Act of Uniformity imposed a revised version of the Prayer Book. Clergy to be closely regulated by bishops which led to 1,000 clergy who disagreed with the Church leaving their parishes

1664 Conventicles Act: meetings of more than five people illegal without use of the Anglican Prayer Book. The Act expired in 1667, revived by new Act in 1670, and repealed in 1689

1672 Declaration of Indulgence: Charles II suspended operation of the penal laws against Catholics and nonconformists, but Parliament forced withdrawal of the Declaration in March 1673

1673 First Test Act forced all Catholics from public office

1678 Second Test Act excluded all Catholics - except Charles II's brother James, Duke of York - from membership of the House of Lords and House of Commons

1679-81 Exclusion Crisis: anti-Catholic campaign in Parliament to exclude the Catholic Duke of York from succession to the throne

1685-88 Reign of the Catholic king, James II. Deposed by William of Orange who succeeds as William III

1689 Bill of Rights declared that no future monarch could be a Catholic - or married to a Catholic

Now I could definitely fall in love with your doorpost.
What is it early 1400s I think.

No judging from me @Barquentine , live and let live.

@cakeorwine thank you for the handy potted history!

This thread would no doubt have seen some of us punished under the Blasphemy Laws - jailed for denying Christianity

The so called Christian values this country was based on are a far cry from the teachings of Jesus.

It's going to be used the next time someone says this country was based on Christian values

Religion and belief - UK Parliament