Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

[Opol]

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

It’s perfectly relevant to the conversation here and perfectly accurate.
You pointed to Christianity affected us as a state. I pointed out actually these days Christianity in the UK is not censoring our life it’s other religions that are doing that.

You do realise that Easter is also observed in countries where it isn't spring. Where I live the arrival of spring is no more celebrated than the arrival of any other season.

I don't think there are things in your statement that are accurate.

And Christianity affects our life.

It should be treated as a religion in the same way other religions are

And it is getting less popular so it's only a matter of time

@IloveAslan did those countries always celebrate it? Or is it more of a modern adoption.
Historically Ostara would have been celebrated in countries where it was spring at that time.

Why is it acceptable to do that to a Christian and not a Muslim or a Jew? I mean I have no problem if you don't have beliefs etc. Each to your own but I have actually had people mocking me for going to church. That shouldn't be acceptable.

Ah isnt that lovely. And yes Jesus was written as the ultimate hippy with all the meaningless word salad passages. A bit like that The Boy and the Fox/Mole/Horse book, just syrupy phrases with no real meaning. Which makes it very easy for Christians to ignore about 90% of all the other biblical literature - mass murder, sacrifice, blame women for all sin, hatred for other cultures and ways of living, more mass murder….

It wasn't just the abuse though was it? It was the cover ups, and the way paedophiles were actively moved around the world, free to abuse further. Again, and again and again. Each time that happened, children's lives were irrevocably damaged. And they still have the temerity to lecture people on how to live their lives? Really??

Any other Pagans annoyed at what the earliest Christians turned the Spring Equinox into? Cuts both ways!

Last time I checked, Christians didn't believe God or Jesus to be 'imaginary', so how can it be a literal statement?

@DanielGault

"Which is a tidy catchphrase, until you read about the mother and baby homes, sales of children to America, and the Tuam Babies. And that's just one tiny country on the edge of Europe. There were plenty of other atrocities elsewhere."

So some bad shit happened by certain practitioners in the past, which is entirely unacceptable. But that doesn't condemn the entire organisation today does it?

In the past certain doctors performed horrific practices on patients in order to improve their knowledge and advance their careers. This doesn't mean that I have a major problem with the entire medical profession today .

In the past the mentally unwell suffered horrifically in asylums but that doesn't mean I have a major problem with the provision of mental health support etc etc.

I mentioned the recent abuse cases to show just how recent some of the mass trauma caused by Christianity, there would be a lot of further trauma going back through the entire history of it.

The beliefs were forced onto people, it's no different than people in North Korea being forced to believe that Kim Jong Un is a God. They'd be tortured and killed if they say they don't believe.

I don't have an issue with stating facts from history, but it's the whole attitude that we wouldn't have charity or any good values at all without Christianity that I have an issue with. We would have.

So just because history happened one way, that doesn't mean we need to be grateful for it and that we have to thank Christianity for anything positive we may see. I'd say we would have been in a far better state now without Christianity!

Maybe do a bit of research on it. And if you find you're still ok with it, take a very, very long look in the mirror.

Again we’re not talking about other religions on this thread. You have an issue with Muslims or Jews, start your own thread about them. I’ve already said that I don’t agree with any religion. Having an opinion on going to church is just that, if you are happy with your choice of how you spend your time then I’m sure it will just wash over you.

I don’t see that.
This is a thread asking Christians for opinions. OP asked that but hasn’t really got that.
Go over to the Jewish Mumsnet section and no one is ever rude.
And yes, people do stand outside churches shouting hatred catching people as they go into mass. They do it at my parents, my brothers, my cousins and our church.

They do it outside Canterbury Cathedral…
They do it….

I think the Christian values our society were based on - don't be a sinner. Believe in our God . If you are a sinner, you will go to hell. If you believe in Jesus, you will be saved.

Go to church every week. And don't belong to another religion. Or blaspheme.

I didnt say I had a problem with them?

It is a literal statement of how a non-believer sees a deity. If you choose to believe there’s a man in the sky go right ahead, but unless proven otherwise deities are a product of human imagination.

Beware, you’ll get shouted down that Easter isn’t Pagan and Pagansim is bollocks but certain posters on here who ignore historical information and post what they think as fact whilst demanding everyone else respects Christianity.

On a happier note, it’s been nice to hear there are other Pagans on MN.

In fact we’ve had Christians, Atheists, Pagans, Muslims, Hindus and more on here. What a lovely melting pot of people.

Not anymore but I remember feeling hard done by as a child when my Muslim friend got 12 Easter eggs and I (as a Christian) only got 2. Absolutely outrageous!

It seems you do otherwise why are other religions being mentioned on a thread specifically about Christianity?

@1dayatatime

So some bad shit happened by certain practitioners in the past, which is entirely unacceptable. But that doesn't condemn the entire organisation today does it?

Yes it does. The organisation doesn't seem to care does it? Why won't they pay the compensation that they agreed to pay?

But you’re treating all Christians as evangelists spouting hell and damnation
They aren’t.
Very Very few are.

Thats discrimination.

You have a few irritating preachers in your area and damn the entire Christian faith. !!

Wow.

And give us your money, and marry when you’re a child, and accept sex whenever you’re asked to, and behave or we will burn you for a witch, and convert to our religion or we shall kill you, and give us your land, and…

and yes I love an Oxford comma.

@SpeedyDrama i don’t think it’s word salad though, I think Jesus was very clear - which is probably why everyone (Christian’s included and probably most of all!) fail to live up to it. Basically, love everyone, forgive people if they do you wrong, put yourself last - easier said than done - actually impossible to do. If you read the parables there are lots of examples in real life, I think to make it easier to understand.

Rather than getting annoyed with what people have turned Easter into, would it not be better to simply forgive them?