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to not understand why people spend money to pollute their homes with pointless chemicals?

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tomorrowisanotherdate · 30/03/2024 19:26

scent boosters, to go in laundry, air fresheners that squirt puffs of pollutants at you - the tv is full of adverts for these things, so presumably someone is buying them. I just don't get it though. Loading your family's home atmosphere with a load of unnecessary and unpleasant air pollutants, and paying for the privilege? Why?

OP posts:
KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 08:20

Fizbosshoes · 31/03/2024 08:16

I occassionally burn scented candles and I love the smell of clean washing

However we went to an air bnb last year and every room had a glade plug in. The smell was so overpowering and imo not nice. So I unplugged them all and put them back when we left. The only other time I've been anywhere with overpowering plug ins was a place that smelled of wet dog and I presume they were trying to mask it.

That's too many, and would make me wonder just what they were trying to mask!

tomorrowisanotherdate · 31/03/2024 08:22

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 08:19

It's also a mistaken belief to call anything synthetic toxic and anything natural safe.
Of course advertising has made people think they need things they don't, but that's true of pretty much every non-essential good!
I still think @tomorrowisanotherdate is a secret Enjo rep because she's using a lot of their jargon. 30 quid for a cloth, which you need loads of, now that is a marketers dream. Apparently it's 'chemical free' too.

I've never heard of njo and I have never said that anything synthetic is toxic and everything natural is safe, in fact speak out against this mistaken belief regularly

OP posts:
Josette77 · 31/03/2024 08:23

tomorrowisanotherdate · 31/03/2024 08:02

No I really can't. Expensive, toxic to humans, massively environmentally damaging, and smells deeply unpleasant. But even if you like the smell, how does that justify the money, and the damage to the environment and to human health?

I can't understand why anyone does it. No understanding at all. And no one on this thread has come up with anything other than "I like the smell" which just blows my mind. Polluting the world because you like the smell? Or even "it smells clean" which is doesn't. It smells contaminated, which it is. If you think that is the smell of "clean" then you have been brain washed by advertising.

But surely you have things you do because you like them even if they aren't good for the planet?

Processed foods? Clothing made in awful factories? Electronics? Your phone?

These things all have consequences and a human cost.

This one you can't seem to understand but if someone picked through your lifestyle they'd likely find things you do that harm the environment just as baffling.

llamadrama16 · 31/03/2024 08:23

I agree completely, those awful fragrances and horrific. I got a sample and tried it and they stunk out the house and triggered a migraine attack!

Sometimes when I order Vinted parcels and I can smell the clothes before I've opened the parcel, makes me ill to think of how much these peoples houses must smell like fake fragrance 🤢

An overly scented home makes me think they're trying to cover up something stinky.

ASighMadeOfStone · 31/03/2024 08:24

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 08:19

It's also a mistaken belief to call anything synthetic toxic and anything natural safe.
Of course advertising has made people think they need things they don't, but that's true of pretty much every non-essential good!
I still think @tomorrowisanotherdate is a secret Enjo rep because she's using a lot of their jargon. 30 quid for a cloth, which you need loads of, now that is a marketers dream. Apparently it's 'chemical free' too.

Quite.

And yet claims to be a scientist.
Which is, frankly, disconcerting.
It's like the ridiculous "clean beauty" myth.

And people who rub their pits with a stone and think they don't smell like they've rubbed their pits with a stone. 😳

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:25

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 08:23

But surely you have things you do because you like them even if they aren't good for the planet?

Processed foods? Clothing made in awful factories? Electronics? Your phone?

These things all have consequences and a human cost.

This one you can't seem to understand but if someone picked through your lifestyle they'd likely find things you do that harm the environment just as baffling.

But constantly subjecting yourself, the environment and your children to continuous toxic air- why? What’s wrong with fresh air?

TitaniasAss · 31/03/2024 08:26

Well I'm not a fan of these things at all because they give me headaches and I don't like the chemical aspect, but god there are some superior twats on this thread.

Tedaaaaaaaaah · 31/03/2024 08:26

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 31/03/2024 08:19

It's also a mistaken belief to call anything synthetic toxic and anything natural safe.
Of course advertising has made people think they need things they don't, but that's true of pretty much every non-essential good!
I still think @tomorrowisanotherdate is a secret Enjo rep because she's using a lot of their jargon. 30 quid for a cloth, which you need loads of, now that is a marketers dream. Apparently it's 'chemical free' too.

Of course, plenty of natural toxins. Don’t they test for radon during a house purchase?

I for one love the smell of a vanilla air freshener (no idea, but assume it’s a manufactured sub and not real vanilla), but I can’t believe they are good to inhale.

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 08:29

What’s wrong with fresh air?

Well, if I open my windows at certain times of year, my house smells of slurry, manure and fertiliser from the farms.

Hardly fresh and pleasant! It's the same reason why I don't always dry washing on the line.

Natural "fresh" air often smells pretty grim.

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 08:31

But even if you like the smell, how does that justify the money, and the damage to the environment and to human health?

I assume every single thing you own is essential and non-harmful then?

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 08:33

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:25

But constantly subjecting yourself, the environment and your children to continuous toxic air- why? What’s wrong with fresh air?

I think depending on where you live it's naive to assume fresh air exists.

I live in Toronto and I'm under no illusions about the air I breathe.

I was once an aromatherapist so I'm picky about smells and what I'm breathing in.

But I also ate a greasy pizza earlier with pepperoni with my son so I'm certainly not pretending to be a pillar of purity.

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:34

fieldsofbutterflies · 31/03/2024 08:29

What’s wrong with fresh air?

Well, if I open my windows at certain times of year, my house smells of slurry, manure and fertiliser from the farms.

Hardly fresh and pleasant! It's the same reason why I don't always dry washing on the line.

Natural "fresh" air often smells pretty grim.

So don’t open your windows and put a few drops of natural oil in a bowl of water if you really need to.

pictoosh · 31/03/2024 08:35

TitaniasAss · 31/03/2024 08:26

Well I'm not a fan of these things at all because they give me headaches and I don't like the chemical aspect, but god there are some superior twats on this thread.

Agree. It's quite funny to read from an objective point of view.

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:35

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 08:33

I think depending on where you live it's naive to assume fresh air exists.

I live in Toronto and I'm under no illusions about the air I breathe.

I was once an aromatherapist so I'm picky about smells and what I'm breathing in.

But I also ate a greasy pizza earlier with pepperoni with my son so I'm certainly not pretending to be a pillar of purity.

So piling on a catalogue of toxic chemicals on top of the air you breathe 24/7 is the answer?

ASighMadeOfStone · 31/03/2024 08:37

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:34

So don’t open your windows and put a few drops of natural oil in a bowl of water if you really need to.

Some essential oils are extremely toxic.

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:37

ASighMadeOfStone · 31/03/2024 08:37

Some essential oils are extremely toxic.

So pick a non toxic one if you really need to.

ConJob · 31/03/2024 08:43

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 07:37

https://madesafe.org/blogs/viewpoint/toxic-chemicals-in-air-fresheners#:~:text=In%20such%20cases%2C%20primary%20ingredients,acid%2C%20and%20methyl%20vinyl%20ketone.

Insert toxic before the word chemicals. Lavender oil does not contain the above. Search air freshener chemicals toxins- it’s horrific. The air in my house will have what I can’t do anything about but it does not have an additional continuous menu of toxins pumped into the air,clinging on to soft furnishings etc with nowhere to escape, constantly breathed not only in to my lungs but those of young children too.

You can eat lavender, rose, orange etc. I wouldn’t be eating any of the toxic chemicals in air fresheners.

That is a better word, many of those things are carcinogens.

ASighMadeOfStone · 31/03/2024 08:44

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:37

So pick a non toxic one if you really need to.

Well, d'oh.
It was just your sweeping belief that "natural" = good, and chemical = bad.

PS the OP (who is a SCIENTIST and has met BRIAN COX) can probably tell you why there are probably as many pollutants coming from your soft furnishings (your post from earlier) than from a Yankee Candle.

But then again. She'll probably just also link to another "natural" blog.

ASimpleLampoon · 31/03/2024 08:47

Can't use any of it, it makes me physically sick and I have headaches. I prefer opening Windows whenever possible at least once a week , most days if not too cold and set and if I use anything I'll light an incense stick the only thing that doesn't make me vomit but even that only for a minute or two.

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 08:51

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:35

So piling on a catalogue of toxic chemicals on top of the air you breathe 24/7 is the answer?

My point is while I personally don't use those things, the smugness of people on here is absurd.

We all do things that harm the environment. You're not perfect either.

If some people find these things make them happier in their home, who cares?

If we picked through your life, my life, anyone, we would all find unhealthy things that horrify others

NoCloudsAllowed · 31/03/2024 08:54

I think you'll find that lavender is in a lot of air fresheners, laundry stuff etc

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:56

Josette77 · 31/03/2024 08:51

My point is while I personally don't use those things, the smugness of people on here is absurd.

We all do things that harm the environment. You're not perfect either.

If some people find these things make them happier in their home, who cares?

If we picked through your life, my life, anyone, we would all find unhealthy things that horrify others

But pumping toxins into your lungs and those of your children isn’t necessary. The manufacture and use of these products damage the environment .I actually try to limit damage I make to the environment and health of my children as much as I can. Yes there are some things I can’t control but I can not add additional toxins into the air they breath in their homeanybody can. Some choose not to. No smugness here just utter bemusement.

Naytr33 · 31/03/2024 08:57

NoCloudsAllowed · 31/03/2024 08:54

I think you'll find that lavender is in a lot of air fresheners, laundry stuff etc

Along with a shed load of other shit.

MrsBuntyS · 31/03/2024 08:58

My kid is allergic to linalool and limonene, both ‘natural’ and both in almost all fragranced products. My house smells of nothing. The majority of the ‘fake‘ fragrances people refer to on here contain the above, as do all the ‘natural’ fragrances. I have very limited scientific knowledge and I am not obsessed with pollution or the environment, suffice to say a lot of things people think are ‘clean’ and ‘safe’ are not. I really miss having fragranced products but it’s not worth the congestion and infected skin rashes.

tiger2691 · 31/03/2024 08:59

I agree with the OP, the stench of products like febreze is horrendous, toxic and totally unnecessary to use. Even brand new clothes stink, it's almost impossible to remove the stench, esp. with polyester clothing. Due to my partners allergies (she carries an adrenaline auto injector) our home has been perfume free since 2002, most people are desensitised to the smells of all those products, as proved by this thread.

Visitors - usually family have to be told not to wear perfumes, aftershave and the like. Most washing up liquids are truely awful as well, as is soap, shampoo, even anti bacterial hand gel.

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