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Landlord giving notice Easter week

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Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 10:33

I moved into a rental property approx 7 months as a “long term tenant”. All rent to date is fully paid and all utilities are also fully paid and up to date.

I went on holiday one week ago for the Easter break as my industry tends to shut down around this time and everyone has a break for 2-3 weeks.

On day two of my holiday I received a telephone call from the estate agent to advise the landlord
is selling the property and notice would be sent to me.

Obviously I am not at home to receive the notice and I had no way of checking as I’m in Spain. No copy of the notice has been sent to me via email nor have I been sent any form of statement to advise how much would be payable in May bearing in mind I would be Moving out mid month.

The estate agent was wanting to get into the property straight away to start showing it to potential buyers. I said no because I’m now away on holiday and I have left out personal possessions that need to be put away before people come in. The estate agent responded he would then serve a section 8 on me for not cooperating.

Had they mentioned the landlord’s intention to sell before I came away I would have put things away and made confidential information locked up etc before I left to enable access. Now it is obviously not possible.

My holiday has been ruined as I’ve had to start house hunting online and arrange people to do viewings on my behalf. Fortunately I have managed to find something on a new development I had viewed last year and I have put in an offer. I’m now waiting to hear if it’s been accepted.

Im really irritated at the estate agent and landlord as I moved in on the basis it would be a long term tenancy. Now I’m having to move again at considerable expense. I am not in a position to keep moving all the time.

Due to the landlords timing I will need to pay for removals around a bank holiday period at double the cost. This could have been entirely avoided.

I feel totally screwed over.

In addition I have had issues with peace and enjoyment in the property due to my next door neighbour being terminally ill. Careers coming three times a day blocking access to the house, blocking access to the garage. Ambulances coming in the middle of night. Doorbells ringing through the house, and even an undertaker knocking on my door at 4:30am in the morning to take the deceaseds body in January. I kid you not!

I’m so frustrated I’m tempted to pay this months rent and move out just before the next payment is due and he can take it from the deposit.

I’ve had no compensation for the constant disruption from the neighbour and he’s not offered any form of offer to assist moving. I’m tempted to report the estate agent for misleading marketing too

what would you do ?

OP posts:
ACynicalDad · 30/03/2024 13:23

Who should be compensating you about the neighbor?? That’s life.

Landlord’s circumstances change, it’s a risk, how were they to know you are on holiday??

yabvvu

Crunchymum · 30/03/2024 13:24

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 10:43

Careers coming three times a day at the crack of dawn, blocking access to the house , blocking access to the garage so I can’t get in and out becomes a problem when it is ever day.

ambulances coming on a regular basis in the middle of the night. His girlfriend banging around in the middle of the night. My door bell ringing in the middle of the night and undertakers coming is seriously draining on a daily basis . He should have gone into a home.

What a nasty, cunty attitude you have.

Shocking.

Alwaystired23 · 30/03/2024 13:29

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 10:43

Careers coming three times a day at the crack of dawn, blocking access to the house , blocking access to the garage so I can’t get in and out becomes a problem when it is ever day.

ambulances coming on a regular basis in the middle of the night. His girlfriend banging around in the middle of the night. My door bell ringing in the middle of the night and undertakers coming is seriously draining on a daily basis . He should have gone into a home.

Wow. Maybe some people choose to live the last years/weeks/days of their lives/ choose to die at home. Not everyone wants to go into a home or hospital. I was totally on your side until these comments. You sound horrible. I hope you're never in the position where you need to support someone through a terminal illness at home.

RawBloomers · 30/03/2024 13:30

Secondaryappealhelp · 30/03/2024 13:12

None of this is the landlords issue.

OP I disagree with the above. The landlord should have been dealing with the freeholders of the building to ensure access was enforced if this was a frequent occurrence. To that extent this is a landlord issue. The rest of the issues arising from the neighbour’s illness do not sound like anything that anyone would have a right to interfere with and I while it would be seriously disrupting, I think you are letting your anger over having to move cloud your view here. Let the issues with the neighbor go. There was probably nothing they could do about it without moving out - which would probably have been even more seriously debilitating for them than your current move is for you. Let it go.

The threat of section 8 for not letting the estate agent into your home immediately was appalling and not something a court would agree to enforcing a section 8 notice for. I hope you didn’t give permission. They could easily wait until you are back from holiday and had had time to sort things out.

The positioning of the property as a long term rental when the landlord may have known he intended to sell is infuriating and really costly for tenants. If he did know then it’s a form of fraud. But realistically there’s not going to be anything you can do about this. The police won’t investigate and you won’t be able to prove he knew he was going to sell (it’s possible he didn’t know when you moved in).

It’s shit to have to move on after just a few months. it’s expensive and stressful. But you can’t change it. You just need to swallow the anger and make the best of it. Hope you can find a better place. Good luck.

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 30/03/2024 14:15

Op hasn't been given a section 21...i was advising her of her rights if she hasn't got a gas certificate..

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 30/03/2024 14:17

We live nd to a care home and then a bnb.. Would never expect compensation for those similar issues but op's ll needs to act legally to get op out.

SauvignonBlanche · 30/03/2024 14:25

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 10:43

Careers coming three times a day at the crack of dawn, blocking access to the house , blocking access to the garage so I can’t get in and out becomes a problem when it is ever day.

ambulances coming on a regular basis in the middle of the night. His girlfriend banging around in the middle of the night. My door bell ringing in the middle of the night and undertakers coming is seriously draining on a daily basis . He should have gone into a home.

I’d feel sorry for you if I was able to get over this comment.

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 30/03/2024 14:28

In addition I have had issues with peace and enjoyment in the property due to my next door neighbour being terminally ill. Careers coming three times a day blocking access to the house, blocking access to the garage. Ambulances coming in the middle of night. Doorbells ringing through the house, and even an undertaker knocking on my door at 4:30am in the morning to take the deceaseds body in January. I kid you not!

Nah you can't get compensation for that don't be ridiculous

haveyoutriedturningitoffandonagain · 30/03/2024 14:28

Oops posted it twice sorry

ThinWomansBrain · 30/03/2024 14:38

Oh well, maybe when you move to your new-build home, all of the neighbours will be immortal, never get sick, and certainly not require daily visits from the undertakers👻

Noyesnoyes · 30/03/2024 15:08

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 11:10

I don’t have a written copy of the notice.
I have obviously not complained about the terminally I’ll neighbour however all I did say a while ago was that the careers were blocking access to the front door and garage which meant I could not get in the property and I could get my car out of the garage to go to work. I do not believe this is unreasonable. I have to get to work like everybody else and if I can’t get out and it stops me from working then it is an issue. I’ve been kept waiting for in excess of an hour for careers to move and there was ample parking elsewhere in the road. They also started parking in my garage on occasions. You would not find this acceptable if you came to go to work and could not get out !

It's carers, not careers!

And this attitude is vile.

KentishMama · 30/03/2024 15:10

I was prepared to take your side on this, until you started to complain about the terminally ill neighbour. How dare they inconvenience you by dying. You come across as a horrible person here.

Malarandras · 30/03/2024 15:15

Imagine the undertaker waking you up to collect a body. I mean, what is the world coming to? Someone having the temerity to die at home really owes you compensation, the inconvenience for you must have been awful 🙄

StedeBonnet · 30/03/2024 15:15

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 11:10

I don’t have a written copy of the notice.
I have obviously not complained about the terminally I’ll neighbour however all I did say a while ago was that the careers were blocking access to the front door and garage which meant I could not get in the property and I could get my car out of the garage to go to work. I do not believe this is unreasonable. I have to get to work like everybody else and if I can’t get out and it stops me from working then it is an issue. I’ve been kept waiting for in excess of an hour for careers to move and there was ample parking elsewhere in the road. They also started parking in my garage on occasions. You would not find this acceptable if you came to go to work and could not get out !

But even if you had complained (to your landlord?) what do you expect him to do about it? It's not his fault your neighbour was ill or his carers parked where they did. When you rent a property the landlord isn't responsible for the behaviour of your neighbours, just as you're not responsible for the behaviour of your neighbours if you own a property yourself.

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 30/03/2024 15:16

Great way to get everyone to side with your landlord 😄
Why not try to sue your dead ex-neighbour for your compensation?

Toottooot · 30/03/2024 15:17

Carers not careers - that’s irrationally pissed me off.

honeyandfizz · 30/03/2024 15:19

Shame you are being inconvenienced it could not have happened to a nicer person.

Frazzledmummy123 · 30/03/2024 15:19

Vile! Maybe the landlord heard about your bad attitude and wants you out.

ManchesterBeatrice · 30/03/2024 15:20

Yea. You sound delightful.

You had me until the terminal illness neighbour.

It wouldn't be polite for me to write what I think of you for that.

scoobysnaxx · 30/03/2024 15:28

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 10:43

Careers coming three times a day at the crack of dawn, blocking access to the house , blocking access to the garage so I can’t get in and out becomes a problem when it is ever day.

ambulances coming on a regular basis in the middle of the night. His girlfriend banging around in the middle of the night. My door bell ringing in the middle of the night and undertakers coming is seriously draining on a daily basis . He should have gone into a home.

Wow.

No sympathy for you.

God help you if you're ever terminally ill and need carers.

Spirallingdownwards · 30/03/2024 15:30

Ihaterentinggetmeoutofhere · 30/03/2024 10:43

Careers coming three times a day at the crack of dawn, blocking access to the house , blocking access to the garage so I can’t get in and out becomes a problem when it is ever day.

ambulances coming on a regular basis in the middle of the night. His girlfriend banging around in the middle of the night. My door bell ringing in the middle of the night and undertakers coming is seriously draining on a daily basis . He should have gone into a home.

wow! WTF

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/03/2024 15:38

exerciseshmexercise · 30/03/2024 11:19

Why were the undertakers coming on a daily basis?

Must have been short of clients if they were there to see whether she was dead yet.

It's clearly bollocks. Although if I were a landlord, I'd issue a 21 on the basis of the tenant being an amoral arse towards the neighbours - and tell them that was why I'd decided to issue it, as the Law says I wouldn't even need a reason, so it would make no difference to the legality, but would be rather satisfying to tell the tenant in any case.

Starlightstarbright3 · 30/03/2024 15:38

No one is that self aware ..

if by any stretch it is true - wonder why your Ll is selling 🤷‍♂️

scaredofthefuture2024 · 30/03/2024 15:42

You sound like a piece of work. If you're unfortunate enough to ever be in the position of your neighbour, do make sure you don't inconvenience anyone and do dump yourself in a home.

Regardless I cannot fathom why your landlord is responsible for the inconvenience of 3 x short visits by carers. Given your posts I suspect there might be more to your landlord's motivation to sell suddenly.

redalex261 · 30/03/2024 15:46

What should you do? Stop moaning and complaining about your “peace snd enjoyment” being disrupted by the inconvenience of a terminal illness for a start! Did you even read your narrative before posting? You sound like a self-absorbed horror. Look for a property with no neighbours.