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Just been paid and I can’t see a reason to go on

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Broksa · 28/03/2024 06:49

I earn on the face of it ‘enough’ money. I was paid today. After all bills… childcare being the key one of 1,700, I have got 130 to last me the rest of the month. Ex pays cms of 800. My mortgage is 1k. I feel sick. Stressed. I will have a horrible day at work again as it’s so busy and I’ve had three hours of sleep. I honestly wish I could disappear what is the point.

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IntoTheMild · 28/03/2024 10:46

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 28/03/2024 10:42

You earn £70k and are skint?

things are tough when kids are wee but in a few years you’ll be in a great position. There are plenty of people out there on a fraction of what you’re on who aren’t going to have £1k month extra disposable income in a few years

This!!

You could even afford to get into debt a little bit right now if you need to to survive because you’ll soon pay it off when your child is school age.

RedDuffle · 28/03/2024 10:51

Scottishskifun · 28/03/2024 10:42

Take home pay will not be 5k a month no where near as extra tax, NI and usually pension contributions plus potentially student loan.
It's usually around 3.5k take home pay mark(depending on student loan) So their nursery bill and mortgage alone makes up 2/3rds of that.

I think people are just a bit confused that OP only has £130 to last a month and are looking for a bit more context.

Using your figure of 3.5k, with nursery + mortgage taking 2.7k of that, even if bills hoover up the remaining £800 of OP's wages, she then should theoretically still have £800 in child support to get her through the month.

RiderofRohan · 28/03/2024 10:51

OP, I don't think this is an income issue. It's likely a spending issue. I say this as someone who earns a similar wage to you.

After pension and let's say student loan if you have those, you're probably taking home just under £4k. Is this right? Then add on CM from your ex. Would it be correct to assume you have around £4.5k a month, maybe a little more?

£1k mortgage monthly is not high considering your income.

Not sure what your nursery costs but we live in a very expensive part of the country and here it's under 2k a month, unfunded.

If it's similar for you, then you should have £1.5k after mortgage and nursery bills.

Do you have debt? A car loan? Credit cards?

On the bright side your child will be entitled to some funded hours very soon and you will be entitled to a little child benefit with the rule change.

PassingStranger · 28/03/2024 10:54

user1492757084 · 28/03/2024 08:01

Can you take in a lodger?

With a baby in the house? Is that safe?

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 28/03/2024 11:23

Scottishskifun · 28/03/2024 10:45

🙄 helpful!

Not a race to the bottom and not helping the OP at all. Plus the idea that 70k goes into your bank account is stupid it doesn't its about 20k in taxes alone.

Yes I know that, funny enough I do have a job and pay tax myself. I also have children and know it’s hard paying for childcare but that things improve.

She still earns £70k though doesn’t she and should be able to manage her money to live comfortably on it.

Scottishskifun · 28/03/2024 12:59

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 28/03/2024 11:23

Yes I know that, funny enough I do have a job and pay tax myself. I also have children and know it’s hard paying for childcare but that things improve.

She still earns £70k though doesn’t she and should be able to manage her money to live comfortably on it.

I disagree she should be living comfortably. Her mortgage and childcare bill alone takes up roughly 77% of her monthly income (assuming a pension contribution and likely student loan). Add in council tax, energy bills (say £200 each as average is going up and energy bills are bonkers) that leaves approx £400. Before any other bill for water, a car, food, nappies etc etc.

The tax jump between 20% and 40% makes a big difference. There is a reason it's called the squeezed middle especially for a single parent who until the 6th of April wouldn't of been able to claim child benefit without having to pay it all back.

Yes the OP should re-examine her finances to see if she can make things less daunting and easier foe her. But the assumption that it's an automatic easy life especially for a single parent because they earn over the average is rubbish.

midgetastic · 28/03/2024 13:07

OP says that after all bills she has 300 left a month. She end each month in profit and there may be potential to o save more with a sturdy review of spending

Take home around 3.7 k assuming student loan and pension , plus .8 from her ex - that's 4.5 - 60% on the mortgage and childcare , not 77%

Unless all bills isn't including all essential bills then she is in profit every month even after she spends 1.7k a month on childcare

Put another way - in a few years time she is likely to have over a grand a month spare cash to save and spend as she likes

Hang in there - the early years are hard for most people

Bigcat25 · 28/03/2024 15:08

Definitely ask the ex for more, sounds like he isn't paying enough to cover his fair share.

Ilovecakey · 28/03/2024 15:12

Broksa · 28/03/2024 08:08

Thanks so much for the support. I have no family to help and ex does see dd but completely when it suits (it won’t change) so nothing can be fixed about that to help with childcare. I am going to tell him about the increase this weekend and see if he will pay more than minimum cms.

my income is 69,700. I don’t know how to work out of I drop a day would I lose much? I am so stressed about financial security/health/future and don’t know what to do for the best.

my job isn’t in finance otherwise I might be better as calculating it all! I don’t want extravagant things, just to be able to do a food shop without worry.

You earn loads, I have a lot less than that and have more kids than you. I don't understand how you can be struggling on that amount plus £800 child maintenance?! What are you spending it all on? Lots of people have to manage on far less

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 28/03/2024 15:54

Scottishskifun · 28/03/2024 12:59

I disagree she should be living comfortably. Her mortgage and childcare bill alone takes up roughly 77% of her monthly income (assuming a pension contribution and likely student loan). Add in council tax, energy bills (say £200 each as average is going up and energy bills are bonkers) that leaves approx £400. Before any other bill for water, a car, food, nappies etc etc.

The tax jump between 20% and 40% makes a big difference. There is a reason it's called the squeezed middle especially for a single parent who until the 6th of April wouldn't of been able to claim child benefit without having to pay it all back.

Yes the OP should re-examine her finances to see if she can make things less daunting and easier foe her. But the assumption that it's an automatic easy life especially for a single parent because they earn over the average is rubbish.

She actually earns over twice the average, so not like she is on £45k or something. Again, I have a job and pay higher rate tax, in Scotland so more than elsewhere in the U.K., so again am well aware of tax reducing take home pay. But someone not being able to survive with one very small child when including child maintenance she must have £4.5 k net a month is ridiculous.

Katemax82 · 28/03/2024 15:56

Lougle · 28/03/2024 07:15

That sounds so difficult. Have you looked at all options? Selling and renting, working less hours, compressing your days, etc?

Renting is not the cheapest option believe me

Scottishskifun · 28/03/2024 16:11

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 28/03/2024 15:54

She actually earns over twice the average, so not like she is on £45k or something. Again, I have a job and pay higher rate tax, in Scotland so more than elsewhere in the U.K., so again am well aware of tax reducing take home pay. But someone not being able to survive with one very small child when including child maintenance she must have £4.5 k net a month is ridiculous.

Also a Scottish tax payer.
There are many reasons why including paying everything solo, running a car (worse if on finance) paying off finance agreements for things like furniture, water bill isn't included in council tax payment in England and the council tax has risen by 15% in some places. That's significant.

I'm not a loan parent but my DH has had periods of redundancy where 100% of bills has fallen to me. It was tight, manageable but tight and a stressful situation to be in. We would have been screwed if anything broke or needed replacing and I don't have any debts or finance agreements other then a mortgage (and my mortgage is less then the OPs).

The OP needs assistance seeing the wood through the trees, help with examining if she can save money somewhere which will help. To Stop feeling like drowning in financial pressure. They need empathy not someone sticking a boot in because she has a higher then average salary!

Timetotalkhaspassed · 28/03/2024 16:38

It's easy, when you're in a secure relationship, to see just how difficult (and expensive) life is as a singleton.

Beezknees · 28/03/2024 17:28

Timetotalkhaspassed · 28/03/2024 16:38

It's easy, when you're in a secure relationship, to see just how difficult (and expensive) life is as a singleton.

Been a completely lone parent for 15 years with an income less than half of OP's and to be honest you just have to get on with it. I don't see the point in moaning and being negative.

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