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To not understand what this means on our nursery pricing?

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HeadsShouldersTitsandArse · 27/03/2024 16:57

Can someone with more brain cells than me please explain what this means?

Because £12 a day on food, nappies ect seems bloody expensive.. I’m used to £3-£4 a day.

I have two children, I can’t afford £350+ on nappies and food every month.. that’s more than our entire food shop 😂

I’m really starting to sweat😅

To not understand what this means on our nursery pricing?

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Lackinginspiration1 · 28/03/2024 09:09

It is absolutely voluntary, they legally can’t force you to pay. You can decline, and to provide a packed lunch, snacks and all consumables yourself. That’s what I do at mine (they charge £15/day otherwise!

AloeVerity · 28/03/2024 09:13

The inevitable consequence of government underfunding was always going to be nurseries putting up their prices. This comes in the form of ‘consumables’ or ‘top-up’ or ‘extras’.

TomatoWrap · 28/03/2024 10:17

You need to ask for clarification from them. But the £12/day may apply to funded days/hours only.

So if you're funded for 2 days, paying for 3, then your bill would be (daily rate x 3) + (£12 X 2). Per child, an obvs adjusted for the number of hours/days that are funded.

Assuming that's not how you calculated it already, then that's about £200/month difference.

Are you also using tax free childcare?

Mummybud · 28/03/2024 10:53

TheBeeb · 28/03/2024 08:43

In NI we don't get any of these "funded" hours at all, and we pay the same taxes. Nursery for 3 days a week is costing us £741 a month.

England, not London. Nursery for 5 days is costing us over £1,600 a month. Not eligible for funded hours yet. Nursery costs over here are insane.

Notsuretoputit · 28/03/2024 15:44

DragonFly98 · 28/03/2024 00:45

some always comments this and I never understand why. It's household income so the household income is only increasing by £x per hour.

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Because it makes no sense. How many men ever say they’re working for nothing after paying nursery fees? Or ‘DH and I are working full time for nothing - we may as well go part time’. It’s the assumption that the woman pays for the childcare that grates.

happyasharry · 28/03/2024 15:55

HeadsShouldersTitsandArse · 27/03/2024 17:06

The gov funded rate is £5.62 for 3-4 year olds and £7.95ph for 2year olds.

this is where I’m confused. The funding for 2 year olds is more than they charge as a standard hourly? Am I missing something? 😩

I really can’t wrap my head around all of these figures 😅

This is what the LA get. Not what the nursery get. Usually a lot less.

Caravaggiouch · 28/03/2024 15:59

Bearbookagainandagain · 27/03/2024 18:54

The contribution is only for the funded sessions, and it's similar to ours nursery. It covers more than just nappies and food though.
Depending on your resources, some nurseries in my area will have some extra funding available to support parents who can't afford the contribution. It might be worth exploring, I have no idea how it works.

I was wondering the same thing about the hourly cost! When I heard the announcement from the government, I checked the rates and it was higher than our non-funded hours so I thought "great, we won't pay anything then!". I'm really confused about why the council would take a cut of "my" funded hours given that I get nothing in return...

Usually it’s because it’s paid for fewer hours than the nursery is open. If you want to pay nothing and have a really short e.g. 9-3, term time only day with no lunch unless you pay for it then that’s what school nurseries provide.

Looneytune253 · 28/03/2024 16:16

HeadsShouldersTitsandArse · 27/03/2024 22:40

But it’s not just £12 a day for us.

It’s £12 a day, and the standard rate outside of the funded hours. I work full time because I need to to pay our bills, so the kids get their funded hours and then I pay their standard rate for the other hours which means paying roughly £650 standard, plus the £12 a day for two children.

Thats around £1000 on childcare a month. I only get paid £1300. I’m so baffled. Not by the nurseries so much, they have to do what they’ve got to do to stay afloat.

I’m working for £0.53 an hour. But I can’t not, because the £300 puts food on the table.. although with prices rising it will barely even cover that soon.

To be absolutely fair though, without the funding your normal bill would likely be triple that for 2 children. The funded hours are saving you a fortune. You can also apply for UC if you're a low earner or you can use tax free childcare to get 20% paid by the gov

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