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Feeling let down.. my friends a fraud isn’t she?

62 replies

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 09:54

Will try to keep this short…

One of my close friends DH left her when she was pregnant for OW.
Understandably it completely shattered my friends world..they had been childhood sweethearts and together for 10 years.
We are part of a big friendship circle of husbands and wives.. part from me who is recently separated (maybe this contributes to how I feel?)

After he left her everyone made a huge effort with her, we all wanted to make her feel supported.
She would come to my house everyday for the first 3-4 months and cry whilst I took care of her newborn.

I won’t lie in the beginning this was easy to do but over the years it’s become more difficult as she always speaks about the past and her ex and his partner (he’s still with OW). The main subject when we’re together would be ripping apart the OW social media and sharing her pics in group chats. At the beginning this was ok but for years it’s gone on and it’s draining not nice..
despite what happened with OW she does seem like a nice person and really tries to keep peace with my friend with step parenting the DC. Not that I would even side with her but I just don’t like to be a nasty person about something that was so long ago now. It uses my energy being mean about her all the time.

The story continues…
My friend had little money. DH and her were on a low income. She remained in their property and he moved to his own place. He still paid half the mortgage but no maintenance as he couldn’t afford to. I get none and my house is being repossessed.. that’s my own issue. But she bangs on about him not contributing and her having nothing.

She has worked part time and claimed benefits up until about 18 months ago she began working cash in hand doing a cleaning job. She brings in an additional £400 a month from this. I have supported by looking after her DC weekly so she can clean.
Overall with this money she earns more than me with this which maybe is why the following leaves a bitter taste in my mouth/jealousy because of my own circumstances?

Around the time she started her cleaning she met a guy who has now become her partner.
He is nice enough and she seems happier. If anything she just seems a bit entitled.. for a better word?
It’s like all the support everyone has given her over the years has been forgotten and suddenly she is better than all of us.
She doesn’t make much of an effort with us anymore but for the past 5 years we made sure we checked in on her weekly, she was always included in social gatherings etc. making arrangements around her. At times paying for her.. being a friend I would say.
I feel a bit used now though.
But I still support her so she can continue cleaning.

Yet I don’t see her much outside of this now. It’s like I am free childcare to her.

Her new DP has a well paid job.. around £70k, he has his own property he began renting out after moving in with her about 6 months after they got together.
He also sells those dodgy firesticks (the ones with all the channels preloaded) and brags about making £30k a year from.. cash!

Shes still claiming her benefits, getting cash in hand and her single person council tax discount despite him living with her for over a year now.

They are about to move into a 4 bedroom house.. which she says is when she will then stop claiming these things.
Of course I’m happy for her after what she went through but I think I just feel a bit hard done by.. I would never report her nor would I report him for selling those illegal sticks. Wouldn’t even know how.

But I feel used and like I’ve lost my friend who I’ve put so much effort into helping emotionally and at times financially (before my circumstances changed) and now I’m recently separated from my young DC Dad I don’t feel that same support or understanding from her but more like she looks down on me. I can’t describe it.

Not sure what I’m expecting from this post. Maybe just to get it all of my chest!

OP posts:
hookiewookie29 · 27/03/2024 10:23

Yeah, this would bother me too (especially the benefits thing because my husband struggles to claim barely anything, but that's another story....) and I think you need to stop the free childcare and distance yourself from her.

CrappySack · 27/03/2024 10:27

I'm sorry OP. You should stop doing the free childcare immediately. With their joint income, they can easily pay for it! Take the time back to look after yourself.

I'm sorry your friend isn't there to support you. Do you have other friends you can spend time with instead?

toomuchfaff · 27/03/2024 10:28

She's trash.

Report her for benefit fraud and tax evasion if she bothers you too much.

NoveltyFunsy · 27/03/2024 10:31

You say she is judging you, but thats what you're doing here?

DrJoanAllenby · 27/03/2024 10:35

That's what happens when you become someone's doormat, they wipe their feet on you.

Instead of Molly coddling her all those years ago when her relationship broken up she should have been told after a few weeks to get her act together and get in with life but instead everyone has indulged her!

Drop her and move on.

Onceuponatimeiwasaho · 27/03/2024 10:35

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Devilsmommy · 27/03/2024 10:35

Yeah what a bitch. I'd be telling her straight away that you're no longer giving free childcare, if her new man earns £100k a year altogether then they can more than afford it. I can't believe she spent months crying at you when you had a newborn to look after. I'd have distanced myself then tbh. She doesn't sound like any kind of friend, just put for what she can get. Don't let her take from you anymore

olderbutwiser · 27/03/2024 10:36

Unfortunately you have been used. Drop her, look back and identify the moment when she showed her true colours, congratulate yourself for learning from experience so it never happens again, and move on.

Hoppinggreen · 27/03/2024 10:39

Theres a few different things going on here.
She seems to have forgotten who her friends are now she doesnt need them, its not unusual for people to do that when in a new relationship but it sucks. Stop doing her favours
Shes committing fraud so its up to you whether to report her for that.
You are probably a bit jealous that shes getting a nice new house while you are about to lose yours. I dont judge you for that, its understandable.

pootlin · 27/03/2024 10:40

But I still support her so she can continue cleaning.
Yet I don’t see her much outside of this now. It’s like I am free childcare to her.

Stop being free childcare! She is richer than you, she can pay for a babysitter!

Tell her your circumstances have changed as your house is getting repossessed and you can't help anymore.

He also sells those dodgy firesticks (the ones with all the channels preloaded) and brags about making £30k a year from.. cash!

He is the bigger fraud here as this is so illegal You can report him to FACT for selling the firesticks.

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TheChosenTwo · 27/03/2024 10:41

She doesn’t sound like shes been as much of a friend to you in recent years as you have for her. In all friendships there will be times where you are taking more from it and at others you will be doing more of the giving, that’s just what friendships and indeed all relationships boil down to, give and take.
I’d stop doing the childcare and put yourself first for now. If she genuinely wants to continue the friendship she will make an effort.
Hope things get better for you 💐

AnneLovesGilbert · 27/03/2024 10:43

Stop watching her child! From today. Message her and say you can’t do it again she’ll have to find someone else, not your problem who.

She’s let you down now you’re the one on hard times so fgs stop choosing to be mugged off as well.

BrightLightTonight · 27/03/2024 10:50

You need to report her. It makes me so angry that people defraud the benefits system - that tax payers pay for and results in people who need the extra help being denied.

Tel12 · 27/03/2024 10:50

Start charging her for childcare. Or stop it altogether. Once she's sorted you won't see her again anyway.

EmilyTjP · 27/03/2024 10:55

Please stop being a mug for her and stop the childcare immediately!

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 11:24

Thanks for your replies. I guess I am just feeling a bit down myself and comparing but it does make me feel better reading your responses. Atleast I know it’s not in my head.

I have sent a message to her about not being able to do childcare with my circumstances at the mo. She’s read it and not replied. She might be busy.

I dont think it would be worth my reporting her for benefit fraud as she is about to move and do things legitimately so I think it would be hard to prove once they’re not at the property they were living at together and I couldn’t live with myself causing her any problems.

Same with him and what he’s doing.. I would be too frightened of it coming back to me. He works in technology.. I feel like he would have a way of finding out.

OP posts:
Figgygal · 27/03/2024 11:29

toomuchfaff · 27/03/2024 10:28

She's trash.

Report her for benefit fraud and tax evasion if she bothers you too much.

This
Cut her loose op

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 27/03/2024 11:29

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 11:24

Thanks for your replies. I guess I am just feeling a bit down myself and comparing but it does make me feel better reading your responses. Atleast I know it’s not in my head.

I have sent a message to her about not being able to do childcare with my circumstances at the mo. She’s read it and not replied. She might be busy.

I dont think it would be worth my reporting her for benefit fraud as she is about to move and do things legitimately so I think it would be hard to prove once they’re not at the property they were living at together and I couldn’t live with myself causing her any problems.

Same with him and what he’s doing.. I would be too frightened of it coming back to me. He works in technology.. I feel like he would have a way of finding out.

Edited

Don't be daft they won't be able to find out if you submit a benefit fraud claim online.
He works in fire sticks he's not a hacker!

I'd report her and I'd have nothing more to do with her.

TobarnanGealt · 27/03/2024 11:32

Honestly, OP, her stuff, living arrangements, finances etc are irrelevant here. You should be thinking about your own behaviour around her, and the extent to which you have enabled her to take you for granted over a period of many years. Focus on your own life, and put your energy into that and into friendships which sustain you and involve a healthy level of give and take on both sides.

What's happening about your house being repossessed? Do you have somewhere to live? Are you OK? Why isn't this uppermost in your mind, rather than your friend committing benefit fraud?

BreakingAndBroke · 27/03/2024 11:33

It sounds like the ex did give her maintenance (which she spent on the mortgage). It might not have been enough to cover everything, but calling the money "mortgage payments" doesn't stop it being maintenance. If her ex was giving her a few hundred quid a month then he was giving her maintenance.

You are giving her hundreds of pounds worth of free childcare, ex is paying her mortgage and she is claiming benefits she isn't entitled to. She is laughing all the way to the bank while you get your house repossessed. Wake up OP.

DrJoanAllenby · 27/03/2024 11:33

When you act like a weak person there are some that will seize on the chance to use you for their own purposes.

You are a decent and kind person but you have allowed someone to take advantage of your nice nature because they see it as a weakness that they can exploit.

With this kind of person, the more you give, the more they will take and sadly they view you with contempt.

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 27/03/2024 11:34

Well done for dropping the childcare. Use the time to think about what steps you can take to get your situation back on track.

pootlin · 27/03/2024 11:35

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 11:24

Thanks for your replies. I guess I am just feeling a bit down myself and comparing but it does make me feel better reading your responses. Atleast I know it’s not in my head.

I have sent a message to her about not being able to do childcare with my circumstances at the mo. She’s read it and not replied. She might be busy.

I dont think it would be worth my reporting her for benefit fraud as she is about to move and do things legitimately so I think it would be hard to prove once they’re not at the property they were living at together and I couldn’t live with myself causing her any problems.

Same with him and what he’s doing.. I would be too frightened of it coming back to me. He works in technology.. I feel like he would have a way of finding out.

Edited

He won't know you reported him to FACT. It could have been any of hundreds/thousands people he's dealt in dealing these boxes. I would report him.

BreakingAndBroke · 27/03/2024 11:38

Tel12 · 27/03/2024 10:50

Start charging her for childcare. Or stop it altogether. Once she's sorted you won't see her again anyway.

Totally agree with this - once you stop the childcare, she'll be gone. Most likely telling people how you have let her down and screwed up her ability to work - she won't see what you did for her, only what you aren't doing for her.

DaisyHaites · 27/03/2024 11:41

I absolutely would not be doing anything to enable their fraudulent behaviour.

I wouldn’t necessarily end a friendship over it, but in my view benefit fraud/cash in hand/undeclared income/tax evasion is worse than all the “big corporates” not paying tax that people talk about (and the numbers back me up on this), so there is absolutely no way I would be helping facilitate it by doing childcare.

You’ve done the right thing messaging her, and you’ll soon see how much she values your friendship.