Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Feeling let down.. my friends a fraud isn’t she?

62 replies

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 09:54

Will try to keep this short…

One of my close friends DH left her when she was pregnant for OW.
Understandably it completely shattered my friends world..they had been childhood sweethearts and together for 10 years.
We are part of a big friendship circle of husbands and wives.. part from me who is recently separated (maybe this contributes to how I feel?)

After he left her everyone made a huge effort with her, we all wanted to make her feel supported.
She would come to my house everyday for the first 3-4 months and cry whilst I took care of her newborn.

I won’t lie in the beginning this was easy to do but over the years it’s become more difficult as she always speaks about the past and her ex and his partner (he’s still with OW). The main subject when we’re together would be ripping apart the OW social media and sharing her pics in group chats. At the beginning this was ok but for years it’s gone on and it’s draining not nice..
despite what happened with OW she does seem like a nice person and really tries to keep peace with my friend with step parenting the DC. Not that I would even side with her but I just don’t like to be a nasty person about something that was so long ago now. It uses my energy being mean about her all the time.

The story continues…
My friend had little money. DH and her were on a low income. She remained in their property and he moved to his own place. He still paid half the mortgage but no maintenance as he couldn’t afford to. I get none and my house is being repossessed.. that’s my own issue. But she bangs on about him not contributing and her having nothing.

She has worked part time and claimed benefits up until about 18 months ago she began working cash in hand doing a cleaning job. She brings in an additional £400 a month from this. I have supported by looking after her DC weekly so she can clean.
Overall with this money she earns more than me with this which maybe is why the following leaves a bitter taste in my mouth/jealousy because of my own circumstances?

Around the time she started her cleaning she met a guy who has now become her partner.
He is nice enough and she seems happier. If anything she just seems a bit entitled.. for a better word?
It’s like all the support everyone has given her over the years has been forgotten and suddenly she is better than all of us.
She doesn’t make much of an effort with us anymore but for the past 5 years we made sure we checked in on her weekly, she was always included in social gatherings etc. making arrangements around her. At times paying for her.. being a friend I would say.
I feel a bit used now though.
But I still support her so she can continue cleaning.

Yet I don’t see her much outside of this now. It’s like I am free childcare to her.

Her new DP has a well paid job.. around £70k, he has his own property he began renting out after moving in with her about 6 months after they got together.
He also sells those dodgy firesticks (the ones with all the channels preloaded) and brags about making £30k a year from.. cash!

Shes still claiming her benefits, getting cash in hand and her single person council tax discount despite him living with her for over a year now.

They are about to move into a 4 bedroom house.. which she says is when she will then stop claiming these things.
Of course I’m happy for her after what she went through but I think I just feel a bit hard done by.. I would never report her nor would I report him for selling those illegal sticks. Wouldn’t even know how.

But I feel used and like I’ve lost my friend who I’ve put so much effort into helping emotionally and at times financially (before my circumstances changed) and now I’m recently separated from my young DC Dad I don’t feel that same support or understanding from her but more like she looks down on me. I can’t describe it.

Not sure what I’m expecting from this post. Maybe just to get it all of my chest!

OP posts:
RadRad · 27/03/2024 11:42

No wonder this country doesn’t have much public funds if this sort of thing goes on on a larger scale, which I am sure it does. To think about how many tax payers are literally struggling to make ends meet to pay for the lifestyle of the fraudsters. I would report her for fraud too.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 27/03/2024 11:43

I'm sorry you've been used but that's on her, not you. You will likely never hear from her again once you stop the childcare but you've done nothing wrong.

School99 · 27/03/2024 11:46

I personally don’t think your friend is a bitch and I think most of your feeling are due to jealousy and resentment that her circumstances are better than yours. If the friendship doesn’t work for you anymore then just distance yourself no one is forcing you to be friends with her !
I think it’s normal for friendships to wax and wane and be grown out of, there’s no need to do a character assassination!

LipstickLil · 27/03/2024 11:55

I would never report her nor would I report him for selling those illegal sticks. Wouldn’t even know how.

Here you go OP and I would report her - people claiming benefits illegally are complete parasites (as well as self-centred cows in the case of your 'friend'). You'd be doing us all a favour:
https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

Oh and I'd stop doing free childcare for her too. If her wonderful partner is making £70k a year then she can afford to pay for it!

Report benefit fraud

Report someone committing benefit fraud - you can report anonymously.

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

nats2010 · 27/03/2024 12:12

OP I have put YABU as you shouldn't be taking this crap from her. Looking after her child for free so she can go earn some.cash in hand.
She is an absolute CF of the highest order and I'm sorry but you need to grow a backbone and look out for yourself.
I am sorry you are having a crap time yourself and I know what it's like to go through a separation. It's hard, but you need to concentrate on you.
Let her paddle her own canoe, and pay for her childcare like every one else.
She is an absolute piss taker at this stage and you need to get rid. You will amaze yourself at how liberated you well feel when you shed the dead weight.
Look after yourself OP.

Redlarge · 27/03/2024 12:19

Tell her you are really struggling financially so need to start charging for the childcare as you could be using that time to work.
Shes a taker. A big one. Im sorry you've been left hurt. 😔

Nicole1111 · 27/03/2024 12:36

You sound like a lovely person and she’s clearly taken advantage of that. Well done for stopping the childcare. Hopefully she’ll do some self reflection now but I fear that won’t be likely as it sounds like she’s not the type to scrutinise her own behaviour too closely.

unsync · 27/03/2024 12:38

Five years? Fuck that, you need to start looking after yourself and putting your needs first. Well done on stopping the free childcare, hold firm on that.

KomodoOhno · 27/03/2024 12:41

You have been a wonderful friend. I thinkbits time to cut this off.

JPGR · 27/03/2024 13:08

Definitely stop the child care. She is taking the mick.

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 13:39

We are part of a big circle of friends so I will still see her if she doesn’t drop us all.. I say this she has hardly seen us in the group the past 18 months since she has her new fella. Which is fine life changes.

Shes said it’s going to put her out by me not being able to help her on a Friday afternoon anymore, but she understands I have a lot on right now🤷🏼‍♀️

This arrangement was fine prior to my circumstances and if I’m honest like a few have pointed out it is just my jealousy of my circumstances vs hers now.

She’s had her troubles and I was more than happy to support her at that time and help with the childcare. I guess I’m just a bit shocked at her lack of care or support towards me now I’m going through something similar.

I do have others support I think I just expected more from her as I feel I was her main person to turn to.

OP posts:
pootlin · 27/03/2024 13:52

Shes said it’s going to put her out by me not being able to help her on a Friday afternoon anymore, but she understands I have a lot on right now🤷🏼‍♀️

God she really has no clue does she. No offer to support you for a change or asking if you need anything.

Don't be sucked in by her again, just be polite to her in group meets but keep a distance otherwise.

PassingStranger · 27/03/2024 14:06

whatdoesaducksay · 27/03/2024 11:24

Thanks for your replies. I guess I am just feeling a bit down myself and comparing but it does make me feel better reading your responses. Atleast I know it’s not in my head.

I have sent a message to her about not being able to do childcare with my circumstances at the mo. She’s read it and not replied. She might be busy.

I dont think it would be worth my reporting her for benefit fraud as she is about to move and do things legitimately so I think it would be hard to prove once they’re not at the property they were living at together and I couldn’t live with myself causing her any problems.

Same with him and what he’s doing.. I would be too frightened of it coming back to me. He works in technology.. I feel like he would have a way of finding out.

Edited

Don't report she may think it's you and you could bring a whole heap more trouble to your life.
Peace of mind and a calm life is important.

Distance yourself from the childcare and see what happens. If she values the friendship she will contact you.

Beautiful3 · 27/03/2024 14:21

I wouldn't report her right now, because she'll know it's you. I'd distance myself from her and stop all childcare. They have plenty of money to pay for it. You sacrifice so.much time and energy on your friend, you need to focus on yourself right now. If you do want to report her in a years time, the benefit fraud team do look at retrospective fraud. It won't be instantly looked into, it can take a year or two.

iwafs · 27/03/2024 14:21

Look at it this way. You are losing your house, but have done thousands and thousands of pounds worth of unpaid work/child care for someone who’s a benefits cheat, council tax cheat and is with someone who sells fake goods.

Just don’t bother at all with them and focus on yourself. you have been had for a mug. And now that you need help, she’s sure as shit not going to do it.

VivaDixie · 27/03/2024 14:26

Shes said it’s going to put her out by me not being able to help her on a Friday afternoon anymore, but she understands I have a lot on right now

That's her problem not yours. Leave it at that and move on. Adopt the Madagascar Penguins ethos 'smile and wave'.

She may continue the friendship, she may not. Don't fret about the other stuff if it will give you anxiety. She won't help you so don't expect it.

Focus on your own concerns, you have nothing to feel guilty about.

LaraCooper · 27/03/2024 14:30

Report both of them

TheSnowyOwl · 27/03/2024 14:31

Further to the PP above, I would say that supporting someone how you see fit doesn’t mean they are obliged to repay you by acting in a suitable way that you think is appropriate for what you have done to help them. Assuming or expecting them to do so is probably making this feel worse for you.

CantDealwithChristmas · 27/03/2024 14:34

She's not a friend she's a user. She's used your emotional labour, actual labour, time and goodwill and not given anything in return.

Dump her and remember that Karma is a Great goddess who always pays out in the end.

MerryChristmasToYou · 27/03/2024 14:49

Report her and him @whatdoesaducksay .

PossumintheHouse · 27/03/2024 15:04

She is talking the ultimate piss of all pisses. Why are you still offering her free childcare? If she's making £400 cash a month from it, isn't that 8-10 hours per week? You should be 'no longer available' for that. Prepare for the 'Oh but I need the monies woe is me' backlash, though. She's another one for the entitled, CFucker tick chart.

Daisydaisy69 · 27/03/2024 15:16

Report her, the cheeky sod

SpilltheTea · 27/03/2024 15:54

She's a self-centred arsehole. I wouldn't bother with her the next time she comes crying for attention. Good on you for ending the free childcare. You deserve so much better.

OooScotland · 27/03/2024 16:17

You can’t change the past. I’d just go nc with her now (and report her for claiming the single person CT allowance). Done.

LavenderPup · 27/03/2024 16:28

You’re seeing her true colours now. She’s dropping friends as has a new man……just don’t be there for her for when it all goes tits up and don’t help her with childcare etc. Friendship is a 2 way street. I’d also report them fraudsters just make it harder for genuine people on benefits.