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My child is beyond clingy, I can't cope.

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MooseBreath · 22/03/2024 10:11

My son is nearly 4. He is very clever, funny, articulate, affectionate, and curious. He is neurotypical (we think, as well as nursery). He has always been challenging, but lately I feel like he is beyond my capabilities. For the past few months, he has been acting whiny, rude, and clingy.

He is constantly attached to me, touching my face, putting his face in mine, and jumping onto me. I am very consistent in telling him my boundaries and say "Mommy does not want to be touched right now," and firmly move him off me. I move away from him if he does it again, but he follows me, clinging to my legs, and "cries" (it is not genuine crying, but very forced and whiny). When I am ok with being touched, I invite him over for a quick hug or a cuddle. We often cuddle while watching Bluey and every evening while reading a book. I tell him I love him multiple times per day. He is still constantly seeking physical contact from me, and is never more than a foot away.

He is seemingly incapable of playing by himself. He is interested in monster trucks, Lego, remote control cars, the park, soft play, and rough play (running, jumping, and wrestling with his little brother). He will not do any of those things without someone actively playing with him. If I start playing with him and take a step back to wash dishes or change his brother's nappy, DS stops playing entirely and follows my while whining and crying. If I don't play with him, he will sit and ask incessantly for sweets (despite not being hungry) rather than picking up a toy or a book. When his brother is napping, DS refuses to play and cries that he wants sweets or to watch TV. I have limited screens to an hour per day, but it hasn't lessened any whining and there is no extra play happening.

He has always sought food when bored (asking for snacks repeatedly, whining that he's hungry immediately after meals, etc). In the past couple months, this behaviour has become far worse and he now sneaks food from the kitchen in the early mornings before I am awake. He has eaten sugar directly from the bag, peanut butter from the jar, chocolate and crackers from the cupboard... He has been very clearly told not to do this. He has a large breakfast, a healthy lunch, a healthy dinner, and two snacks per day. Sweets and dessert are available most days (if enough nutritious food has been eaten). He often refuses lunch or dinner, claiming that he isn't hungry, and I leave the plate on the table for an hour after in case he wants it later, but offer no alternative. I have started leaving a granola bar out for him in the morning so that he doesn't sneak sweets, but this morning he ate the granola bar and proceeded to scavenge the cupboards anyway.

This all sounds so negative, but I do love DS dearly. I'm just at a loss at how to help him be more independent and deal with his own boredom. I feel like a horrible parent. AIBU to have no idea how to deal with this? Any advice would be very appreciated.

OP posts:
Ohhmydays · 22/03/2024 14:36

Singleandproud · 22/03/2024 11:42

  1. A four year old cannot tell time, perhaps a glow clock that's different colours but learning to tell the time is an incredibly challenging skill.

  2. You do not know if he has any SEND or not, he is four, many of these conditions are not picked up until Secondary school. Especially if a parent is autistic then it is likely, nursery nor school staff are trained to assess for autism.

  3. Locks on bedroom doors are bad yes, children shouldn't be locked in their rooms, a sliding latch at the top of the kitchen door so he can't access it until an adult is awake and cupboard locks are not a issue.

  4. Four year olds are clingy, they just are, 4 year olds with younger siblings especially so as they compete for attention. Many children don't play alone. He follows you into the kitchen - that's what fridge magnets are for, or give him a clean cloth so he can help you by cleaning the front of the cupboards.

I agree with 3&4. I have had to put sliding latches on my kitchen, MY bedroom, bathroom and door at the top of the stairs as my nearly 2yr old has managed to get through, over or under the stair gates so he can only access living room or his and ds2s bedroom. My 4yr old will play by himself but can also be very clingy and in your face at times especially when ds3 is about. Whinges and fake cries over nothing. I think at this age they don’t like being told they can’t have something so will try anything to get you to cave

MooseBreath · 22/03/2024 14:58

Thank you to everyone for the great advice. I will be implementing much of it. DH and I will be having a chat about whether or not we should be contacting a GP for a referral. If DS is neurodivergent, I would like him to be supported. I will also look into strategies for ADHD, ASD, and sensory disorders to see if we can manage the clinginess and comfort eating.

OP posts:
lollydu · 22/03/2024 15:07

I've been reading this post with a lump in my throat as this is my daughter - everything, it's like I could have written it! I'm currently being investigated for inattentive ADHD, have my first appointment in a couple of weeks. And I look at my daughter and think there's just something going on there and I just have this gut feeling, but school and nursery have never picked anything up they just say she's chatty and it's normal at this age. Here is a list of all the things that worry me about her:

  1. Very difficult babyhood, never satisfied, cried a lot, always wanted to be walked around, never happy to just sit and be content like most babies I've encountered before and since!
  2. Very early talker and very almost precocious, very adult led and not interested in other children for a long time. She has friends now but has developed a very intense friendship with one other girl who I think has behavioural issues too.
  3. Extremely clingy exactly like your son, won't go anywhere in the house on her own. No awareness of personal space, will climb all over me and want to sit on top of me instead of next to me.
  4. Very emotionally volatile, I've had to employ a lot of PDA parenting techniques to keep her from losing her shit over minor things, she's extremely defiant and normal consequential discipline doesn't seem to work. She hits, kicks and pinches and loses her temper whenever her autonomy is interrupted is the only way I can put it.
  5. She is extremely creative and almost seems to live in a world of make believe, she's truly obsessed with dolls and any attempts to get her to play with anything else are futile. She does occasionally do creative things like aquabeads etc but her attention span for anything other than dolls is about 5 mins max.
  6. She's nearly 5 and we are constantly still telling her to take her hands and other things out of her mouth. Usually inanimate objects, I've had to buy her those chewy necklace things as her chewing mouth instinct is still as strong as it was when she was a baby.
  7. The food thing as well, she's constantly complaining of being hungry and wanting snacks - what a PP said about dopamine hits seems to resonate with me. It's like she's constantly searching for the next thing.

I'm currently having a bit of a revelation with my own childhood and struggles and can see myself in her so much so perhaps that's clouding my vision. I'm hoping that if I'm able to get a diagnosis for myself that it will be easier to verbalise my worries to her school as they clearly can't see anything wrong.

So sorry for hijacking your thread - I thought about posting my own but I rarely get any responses and your post and other replies on here resonated with my experiences so much.

I agree with what a previous poster said about these issues being something you may wish to investigate in the future but nit worrying too much in the now. I am trying to do this myself - she seems to be getting ok OK at school it's just at home we are really struggling.

Ohhbaby · 22/03/2024 15:08

I don't agree with @Singleandproud 4🙈
I think 4 year olds can play by themselves. This sounds like a bit more than normal toddler behaviour to me.
Constantly seeking sensory input, couples with being able to tell time at 4, very interested in numbers letters etc, might set of some bells in my mind or maybe autism or Asperger's spectrum.

I would look into referral, but in the meantime how about addressing the sensory seeking behaviour with activities that provide sensory input. Small trampoline in the living room. Deep pressure so roll a yoga ball over him. Stretchy tunnel to climb through. Etc

Singleandproud · 22/03/2024 15:23

@Ohhbaby Autism and Asperger's are the same condition.

Some 4 year olds will entertain themselves but many more won't, it's not unusual behaviour in itself.

TheFormidableMrsC · 22/03/2024 16:12

lollydu · 22/03/2024 15:07

I've been reading this post with a lump in my throat as this is my daughter - everything, it's like I could have written it! I'm currently being investigated for inattentive ADHD, have my first appointment in a couple of weeks. And I look at my daughter and think there's just something going on there and I just have this gut feeling, but school and nursery have never picked anything up they just say she's chatty and it's normal at this age. Here is a list of all the things that worry me about her:

  1. Very difficult babyhood, never satisfied, cried a lot, always wanted to be walked around, never happy to just sit and be content like most babies I've encountered before and since!
  2. Very early talker and very almost precocious, very adult led and not interested in other children for a long time. She has friends now but has developed a very intense friendship with one other girl who I think has behavioural issues too.
  3. Extremely clingy exactly like your son, won't go anywhere in the house on her own. No awareness of personal space, will climb all over me and want to sit on top of me instead of next to me.
  4. Very emotionally volatile, I've had to employ a lot of PDA parenting techniques to keep her from losing her shit over minor things, she's extremely defiant and normal consequential discipline doesn't seem to work. She hits, kicks and pinches and loses her temper whenever her autonomy is interrupted is the only way I can put it.
  5. She is extremely creative and almost seems to live in a world of make believe, she's truly obsessed with dolls and any attempts to get her to play with anything else are futile. She does occasionally do creative things like aquabeads etc but her attention span for anything other than dolls is about 5 mins max.
  6. She's nearly 5 and we are constantly still telling her to take her hands and other things out of her mouth. Usually inanimate objects, I've had to buy her those chewy necklace things as her chewing mouth instinct is still as strong as it was when she was a baby.
  7. The food thing as well, she's constantly complaining of being hungry and wanting snacks - what a PP said about dopamine hits seems to resonate with me. It's like she's constantly searching for the next thing.

I'm currently having a bit of a revelation with my own childhood and struggles and can see myself in her so much so perhaps that's clouding my vision. I'm hoping that if I'm able to get a diagnosis for myself that it will be easier to verbalise my worries to her school as they clearly can't see anything wrong.

So sorry for hijacking your thread - I thought about posting my own but I rarely get any responses and your post and other replies on here resonated with my experiences so much.

I agree with what a previous poster said about these issues being something you may wish to investigate in the future but nit worrying too much in the now. I am trying to do this myself - she seems to be getting ok OK at school it's just at home we are really struggling.

I really hope you're able to get her referred. She sounds just like my son was. He was diagnosed early at 3 and thank goodness. Early intervention is key. Good luck with your assessment Flowers

Ohhbaby · 22/03/2024 17:28

Singleandproud · 22/03/2024 15:23

@Ohhbaby Autism and Asperger's are the same condition.

Some 4 year olds will entertain themselves but many more won't, it's not unusual behaviour in itself.

No I agree that that alone wouldn't raise alarm bells, but coupled with the rest, I think it does

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