Supermarkets are taking the pi$$

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I can’t believe how expensive food is now especially in the likes of Sainsbury’s for the same product. Total P-take, e.g. Organic Milk Sainsbury’s £2 Aldi £1.79.

Why give us ‘nectar’ prices when they are inflated prices in the first place? £5.50 for a Pizza Express Margherita and £2.75 on Nectar. I think actually it’s the fakery with making us think we are getting a good deal that’s pissing me off.

I went to Aldi today (we don’t have one near us) as I was doing a drop off nearby and the price difference is huge!!

You take part in their data collection every time you pay. All the data appears on your itemised receipt.

The thing that irks me with this “Aldi price match” is that if Aldi put the price up it goes up with it and ends up more expensive than it was anyway.

I am fairly wary of internet stuff but can't get worked up about the fact Sainsburys have clocked I buy cherry tomatoes and carrots every week.

I don’t believe the prices shown & then the “deal” price.

Easily checked. Tesco was selling a litre of Baileys for literally half price with Clubcard just before Christmas. I won’t turn down a saving of £11.

@OOBetty this is probably the best

katykicker.com/too-good-to-go-review-uk-app/

Thankyou !!
very helpful

Because once they have unfettered access to benefit claimants’ bank accounts, eventually the likes of DWP will insist the data collected is shared with them and will use it to track what benefit claimants spend their money on.

🙄

Our local Aldi and Lidl seem rather dull to me (other than the aisle of shame) and the fruit and veg goes off noticeably quicker than from the others.

I have no problems with the loyalty schemes in the big supermarkets either, I don't care if they know what I buy. My view is that they are paying for my data and charging others who make the choice to refuse to share theirs. I usually shop at Asda and am amazed at how much mounts up in the cashpot just from everyday shopping

Why the eye roll. It’s perfectly true.

@Rosscameasdoody
Because if you were really worried about all of that stuff you were spewing you could ask each retailer what they do with that data with GDPR legislation.

Retailers do not share data with DWP

I’m certain DWP won’t begrudge you buying food, toilet rolls and washing powder 🤷‍♀️

I hate it too. Never understood what they are collecting the datea for?

@katepilar
Behaviour data collection - which is highly valuable to both retailers and suppliers.
To know people's buying habits, how you interact with different categories and when you leave to visit other retailers.

@katepilar , What do supermarkets REALLY do with your loyalty card data? | This is Money
The 'worrying' and unstoppable rise of supermarket loyalty cards (bigissue.com)

Not yet they don’t but if you claim benefits of any kind you sign an agreement which includes data sharing between DWP and other agencies. Legislation has just been passed which will allow DWP to monitor the bank accounts of pretty much all benefit claimants, including those claiming state pension. Once this is in place it will be easy to monitor spending habits by requesting data sharing from retailers operating loyalty schemes. Similar is already being used in other countries with a view to issuing a certain amount of benefit in the form of vouchers which can on.y be used for certain goods at certain retailers.

No, they probably won’t, but in time they may be able to manipulate where and how much you spend on certain things by replacing a certain amount of cash benefits with vouchers.

@Rosscameasdoody

They simply do not do this in the UK and there is literally zero evidence that this will happen or has happened.

GDPR legislation means you can absolutely confirm or disprove your hypotheses.

I have only worked in this sector, in multiple grocers, for 20 years and work with this data every single day.
But you know, you probably know way more than I do 🙄

Didn’t say it was happening now, but the legislation is being put in place to monitor claimant bank accounts and some government reports and consultations have mentioned that the benefit agreement signed by claimants already gives permission for DWP to share/collect information with other agencies, so could be extended to include store loyalty cards and other sources to identify how claimants spend benefit money. Not hard to see why they would want to do this.

I have never had my bags packed in sainsburys and often have to queue for ages at the one manned till while being approached constantly to self serve by staff. Nectar prices are just inflated beforehand to make saving appear worthwhile.
Aldi is efficient and does what a supermarket should. Prices are good and food is good.
I have had great service in Aldi. Only fools would pay a premium for perceived better service.

It’s 20% off Tu Clothing this week; another reason why I should not go to Sainsburys.

in saying that I bought some craft on Aldi’s middle aisle!! I can’t ignore it!!!!

@Rosscameasdoody
I don't know about the Government having visibility of claimants bank accounts - I don't work in that sector, I don't have that expertise.

You are 💯 wrong about supermarket loyalty card data being used in this manner. Again, I work with this data. Every. Single. Day. For the last 20 years.
Today, I had a 20 minute chat about behaviour traits in the washing and bathing sector - specifically shower gel.

What do you do? How do you know more than I do on these data sets? Genuinely? Do you regularly disagree with subject matter experts with zero evidence?

Once again, l did not say this is happening at the moment. I said the legislation is being put into place and there are discussions around extending existing data sharing legislation. There have already been several public consultations about far reaching powers being given to DWP including the ability to track claimant spending habits via various sources. And government visibility of claimant bank accounts, with all its’ ramifications has been a major news story recently.

@Rosscameasdoody
So you are conflating 2 different things.
The Government potentially having access to claimants bank accounts - so they will be able to see that they have spent £25 at Tesco, potentially the itemised bill.

This is different from customer behavioural data which loyalty clubcard collates - frequency of purchase, items in a basket, AIP, category penetration etc. Also Tesco / grocers are not 'agencies'

I would focus your concern on the former not the latter. Again there are tools you can use right now to allay your fears re. GDPR legislation. You are absolutely wrong in conflating access to bank accounts and access to behavioural customer data.