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To think attendance messaging has become insane?!

146 replies

JustDiscoveredBueno · 21/03/2024 11:11

Schools are germ pits. DfE's answer? Make them even more so...cos having more sick kids and staff (if possible) helps attendance and education!!!! Everyone knows that you learn at your best when you're ill or spreading illness.

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PurpleBugz · 21/03/2024 22:09

They turned up at my house to check dd was actually ill. Had to drag her out of bed with a high fever and show them her covered in pox before they would leave. Two members of staff. Because they thought I must be lying as I'd been asking for support for her for her anxiety at school. No staff to support the struggling kids in school but two can drive 20 min to my house and take the germs back with them to share with all the other kids

SquaresAndCircles · 21/03/2024 22:12

PurpleBugz · 21/03/2024 22:09

They turned up at my house to check dd was actually ill. Had to drag her out of bed with a high fever and show them her covered in pox before they would leave. Two members of staff. Because they thought I must be lying as I'd been asking for support for her for her anxiety at school. No staff to support the struggling kids in school but two can drive 20 min to my house and take the germs back with them to share with all the other kids

They tried to insist they go in my child’s bedroom to look at him sleeping when I said I wasn’t going to wake him up to see them. 🤨

MaloneMeadow · 21/03/2024 22:21

PurpleBugz · 21/03/2024 22:09

They turned up at my house to check dd was actually ill. Had to drag her out of bed with a high fever and show them her covered in pox before they would leave. Two members of staff. Because they thought I must be lying as I'd been asking for support for her for her anxiety at school. No staff to support the struggling kids in school but two can drive 20 min to my house and take the germs back with them to share with all the other kids

No way would I have even allowed them in to my house, never mind let them see my DD in a vulnerable state. They’d have been very quickly sent on their way and told under no uncertain circumstances not to come back

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 22:25

SquaresAndCircles · 21/03/2024 22:12

They tried to insist they go in my child’s bedroom to look at him sleeping when I said I wasn’t going to wake him up to see them. 🤨

Both of these situations are outrageous!

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 22:26

I'd start using the word Safeguarding.

justasking111 · 21/03/2024 22:27

Don't know if it's because we're in Wales. But school absences for illness are accepted readily. Just phone or email detailing illness and it's fine.

Secondary may be different though.

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 22:29

SquaresAndCircles · 21/03/2024 21:26

Further to my previous post, what I found interesting was that when my child was ill over a 4 month period before covid hit, the school were only bothered about attendance.

When I chased for work, they were not bothered with providing it at all. Individual teachers were great when I contacted them, but if I didn’t, the school was not bothered in the slightest about the education side of things, just attendance. That really changed my view of them. That and the fact they were not actually interested in how my child was doing health wise, it was all about attendance. It’s a terrible system.

We've had exactly the ssme experience with ds with a chronic neuro disorder. We had to very regularly contact each teacher individually to get any work at all. I sympathise with the teachers re workload etc, but it does make a mockery of the line that schools don't want them to be missing out.

MaloneMeadow · 21/03/2024 22:29

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 22:26

I'd start using the word Safeguarding.

I’m genuinely sitting here in awe that school staff think entering a sleeping child’s bedroom is appropriate, never mind that parents have allowed it to happen

daffodilandtulip · 21/03/2024 22:34

I'm on the flip side of this, trying to send early years children home who are dead on their feet and it's "but the DfE say they can come in with eyes dripping of gunk, raging tonsillitis and a temp of 37.9".

Merryoldgoat · 21/03/2024 22:41

I don’t take any notice of the bollocks from the EWO and told the idiotic welfare officer she would see me in court if she wants but my children stay home when sick. That’s it.

I can guarantee that head teachers know which children need support. Why not concentrate on them?

My youngest had 15 days off last term. It was fucking hideous. Norovirus (5 days), HFM (3 days), tonsillitis (3 days), general coldy things for which he was sent home twice (4 days). No one thought he should be in school. The term before he had 98% attendance. It’s just luck and I’ll go to court before I’m bullied into sending my child into school when they’re unwell.

LostBrainCell · 21/03/2024 22:46

I sent a photo of my kid’s vomit this week. I’m done with it. It’s ableism also if your kid has Sen needs. Total idiocy and discriminatory. If I wasn’t burnt out I’d take DoE to court.

Merryoldgoat · 21/03/2024 22:47

daffodilandtulip · 21/03/2024 22:34

I'm on the flip side of this, trying to send early years children home who are dead on their feet and it's "but the DfE say they can come in with eyes dripping of gunk, raging tonsillitis and a temp of 37.9".

I feel so bad for you guys - I tend to err on the side of optimism if my son (Y1) is a bit off colour and send him in but he’s non verbal so I can sometimes get it wrong.

I always say ‘he was a bit grumpy - call if you think he needs to be home’ and I head straight to collect him.

But never with a fever or any obvious symptoms.

AuntMarch · 21/03/2024 22:47

Believe me, the staff don't like it either! There was more than one adult off per 2 classes at my school last week. No money for supply, the ones still standing all over worked and dreading being ill over the holidays, it always comes when you let yourself rest.

LostBrainCell · 21/03/2024 22:49

Dacadactyl · 21/03/2024 18:49

Not sure why people are getting het up about it?

If you know your child is ill don't send them in. If you get a letter, just bin it.

You have to reply with proof, no?

LostBrainCell · 21/03/2024 22:51

1AngelicFruitCake · 21/03/2024 16:22

On the other side of this, there are many children I know of that are kept off because parents can’t be bothered to bring them and they desperately need to be in school. I hate having to justify why my child is off but I know it’s good they go to protect the ones that aren’t genuine.

I honestly don’t care about the families who can’t be arsed. It’s their fault the rest of us are being harassed. And that’s what it is, harassment.

justasking111 · 21/03/2024 22:52

AuntMarch · 21/03/2024 22:47

Believe me, the staff don't like it either! There was more than one adult off per 2 classes at my school last week. No money for supply, the ones still standing all over worked and dreading being ill over the holidays, it always comes when you let yourself rest.

Mine always used to get sick over school holidays especially winter ones. I'm sure it's the body just saying enough!!

AuntMarch · 21/03/2024 22:55

It's like the immune system relaxes as soon as you do, and let's in everything it's been fighting.

FusionChefGeoff · 21/03/2024 22:59

Those fucking radio ads do my head in. The parents who care enough to take any notice of ads like that ARE ALREADY SENDING THEIR KIDS IN when they can (ie not when they are actually ill) because they care about education. The rest don't give a shit about attendance and a patronising radio ad is more likely to make them keep kids off out of spite!

SquaresAndCircles · 21/03/2024 23:22

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 22:25

Both of these situations are outrageous!

They said I was being unreasonable for not letting them go into my child’s bedtime whilst he slept and said they had never had a parent refuse before. I find that hard to believe. Plus he was 16 at the time, it really wasn’t appropriate for me to let them.

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 23:24

SquaresAndCircles · 21/03/2024 23:22

They said I was being unreasonable for not letting them go into my child’s bedtime whilst he slept and said they had never had a parent refuse before. I find that hard to believe. Plus he was 16 at the time, it really wasn’t appropriate for me to let them.

I do not believe either of those statements for one second.

colouringindoors · 21/03/2024 23:27

MaloneMeadow · 21/03/2024 22:29

I’m genuinely sitting here in awe that school staff think entering a sleeping child’s bedroom is appropriate, never mind that parents have allowed it to happen

Seriously. Its almost, but not, unbelievable

Myotheripodisayoto · 21/03/2024 23:50

I agree! Mine is 7 and off this week with a perforated ear drum

How long do they need to be off for that? Once its burst the pain goes & generally they are fine you just send the medicine to school?

justasking111 · 22/03/2024 00:00

Myotheripodisayoto · 21/03/2024 23:50

I agree! Mine is 7 and off this week with a perforated ear drum

How long do they need to be off for that? Once its burst the pain goes & generally they are fine you just send the medicine to school?

Our school won't handle medication

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 22/03/2024 00:02

DS2’s secondary school are currently in a massive huff with me. Their policy is that you have to phone every day that a child is off. DS had an operation, planned for a long while, which required 7-10 days in hospital and then 2-3 weeks recovery at home. I said I would email after the surgery, when he was home from hospital and weekly thereafter to let them know when he’d likely be returning.

Apparently this is unacceptable and I should be ringing every single day, which always involves at least 10/15 minutes being told what number I am in the queue, to update them. not a chance.

Apparently they may have to send me a letter…

The thing is that with the changes this Ht has made they have actually become (imo - I worked in schools for nigh on 20 years) really poor when it comes to safeguarding as they are only focussed on attendance. My Dd will be starting a different high school after the summer as I, like many parents locally, don’t want to be dealing with this one any more

justasking111 · 22/03/2024 00:05

They've admitted post COVID that 12 thousand school children have never returned to school across all ages.