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AIBU for getting sick of friends baby voice?

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Itsmekate · 20/03/2024 02:21

Name changed as this is outing.

My friend of many years has always been quirky and that’s why I love her, she’s over 40 but still has a silly side and is very reluctant to grow up! Even her children get embarrassed sometimes at her immature behaviour but she just doesn’t give a fuck what anyone thinks.

Some examples of her behaviour are: skipping round supermarkets singing, wearing very bright clothing often covered in glitter and unicorns, finding it funny to fart in meetings and blame someone else, giving people silly nicknames, playing practical jokes etc…
Her teenagers love her to bits but often have to tell her to grow up and remind her that she has friends her own age when she wants to join them when they go out of friends visit the house.

I know this makes her sound like a nightmare but she’s an amazing friend in every other way and puts everyone before herself, other then these quirky behaviours she’s loyal, great company, reliable and trustworthy. She’s had a lot of tragedy in her life which I think has caused her to regress and why I worry I’m being unreasonable.

Recently she’s started talking in a baby voice and changing her words to childish ones, she’ll say things like here come the nee naws, I got an ouchie, I need to go do a wee wee, my wanna do it, and in a whiney voice “that’s minnnnne” or “I don’t wanna gooooo”
She had to go to an important meeting and asked me to go as support but I had to tell her to get a grip when she span on a swivel chair saying “wheee watch me!”

I have mentioned this a few times and she gets defensive and says it’s just a bit of fun, her children are older teens but she copies things her young nieces and nephews say.
Her children have begged her not to do this and my partner refuses to go out with us after she was behaving like this in public. Her parents have told her to grow up and she just laughs and calls anyone who criticises boring, the more people comment the worse it gets.

I know this sounds absolutely ridiculous and people will think I’m making it up, but it’s actually getting ridiculous because I’m starting to hate spending time with her, I feel terrible saying I’m embarrassed by my friend but an adult skipping round Tesco wearing a unicorn backpack and singing silly made up rhymes just attracts attention and I hate people staring at her and judging her, it makes me feel protective as well as embarrassed.

WIBU if I tell her that people don’t see her as this young fun person she thinks she is and that it’s making me cringe or should I just hope she’ll eventually either take on board what people are saying and hope it passes? If it’s making her feel better about growing older then should I be interfering? She’s not hurting anyone and doesn’t do it all the time - but it is becoming more frequent and I’m scared it’ll become an ingrained habit.

If anyone asks her age or date or birth she tells them she’s 18 and even if it’s being asked for an important reason (like a hospital appointment) she refuses to back down until they just go along with it. I think most people are humouring her assuming she’s mentally ill and I don’t feel that’s the case. I think she’s just recently turned 40 and completely in denial but I’m hoping as she gets used to it the behaviour will stop.

I wondered if anyone else knows someone like this and how they handled it? I don’t want to lose my friend but it’s difficult having a serious conversation with someone who answers serious questions like “did you get your car fixed?” With
“No brum brum is still poorly and has to go to car hospikal”
Its getting increasingly difficult not to get frustrated and angry.

She has no husband or partner because she wanted to wait until her children were grown up and moved out so they never had a step dad they didn’t like or a blended family. This is an example of the selfless person she is, her children’s father has seen this side of her but just says it’s nothing to do with him and it’s not causing any harm to the kids and she’s just a bit batty.

OP posts:
Foxblue · 20/03/2024 09:17

Most of it I'd put down to having a 'different' personality and interests - I don't think being an adult means you have to to have certain interests etc (as much as I would personally find her deeply fucking annoying, I'd have to stand by her being allowed to like the things she likes)

However, it's impacting her relationships, and she's refusing to give out her actual birth date to medical professionals???

I wouldn't jump to trauma or mental health issues - although the fact the behaviour is getting worse indicates to me that something might have triggered that (and that might not be anything sinister, might just be that she woke up one day and thought 'fuck it'!)

But she's letting it affect her relationship with her kids, that's just not okay.

Krabappel · 20/03/2024 09:20

grinandslothit · 20/03/2024 04:31

She sounds fun.

If this was a man, everybody would be going on saying how fun and eccentric he is.

There are plenty of grumpy miserable people around and people put up with it, but somehow a woman who has decided to be light-hearted and fun has something wrong with them and needs to be told off.

If you don't like her, don't hang out with her anymore. I'm sure there will be other people who want to hang out with her.

Noooo people would categorically not tolerate this from a man.

For a start, he'd be single because nobody would want a relationship with him.

Gross for farting around others.

Absolutely weird for talking in a baby voice

No way would this be tolerated. This friend I'm sure is a nice woman, but this would piss me off. It was fine at unicorns and bright colours, but nobody likes this, even worse for a man.

Walkingwashingmachine · 20/03/2024 09:21

Check what novels she's been reading and throw out any involving a fun and quirky heroine who the hero falls in love with as she doesn't follow the rules that all the other boring girls do.

Hameth · 20/03/2024 09:38

I'm reminded of the gambling advert, when the fun stops, stop. It sounds like your friend can't - just like full-on gamblers - and I would be worried. I wouldn't want to encourage anyone just to be a people pleaser but there are social norms especially in relation to being a parent and a colleague. These appear to being disregarded.

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 20/03/2024 09:39

This is crazy. It's perfectly possible to retain a sense of childlike fun at appropriate times, whilst also living in the real adult world. She has gone way, way beyond this, though.

She actually blatantly and insistently lies when asked her age by people/organisations who really do need to know the truth? I know some (tiresome) people will say "I'm 21!!" at first, but they then follow it up with their true age/DoB (unless it's just some nosey person asking them without any good reason to need to know).

Whether or not she does have MH problems, her medical notes will very likely suggest/assume that she does.

I also agree with PP: it's irritating enough when a school-age child still uses a baby voice; but somebody knocking on 50 with adult children of her own?!

Createausername1970 · 20/03/2024 09:47

Your description puts me in mind if Jean (?) Stacey's mum in EastEnders. I know she is a fictional character, but the writers are usually quite good a trying to portray characters.

The ex's description of "a bit batty" seems to sum it up.

Would/could I be friends? If I wasn't already, then no, I would run a mile. If I already knew her then I would continue the friendship, but not necessarily go out in public. I would want to keep an eye on her, for hers and the kids sakes, though.

tangycheesythings · 20/03/2024 09:48

The date of birth thing is just annoying and time wasting. Hospitals don't have time for this kind of nonsense. She needs to respect other people and their heavy workloads.

I don't think I could hang out with her to be honest. It's too much.

CeriB82 · 20/03/2024 09:50

What is wrong with just telling her to shut the fuck up? Are you afraid of that?

tangycheesythings · 20/03/2024 09:56

She sounds like Colin Hunt.

Maybe just send her a link and she might get the message?

TheWernethWife · 20/03/2024 10:04

Is she Bernadette Rostenkowski-Wolowitz?

HowToSaveAWife · 20/03/2024 10:05

I think your friend is actually quite unwell, sorry OP. What appears "quirky" actually sounds like your friend is spiralling quite close to a serious MH crisis, and the fact you say there has been trauma or tragedy here, compounds that for me. I think she's aware enough that she knows it's unacceptable so can snap out of it if challenged to appear "normal" but the baby voice and other things are her "safe" zone. And the longer we use safe zones, our brain makes it the default.

If you can't or don't want to drop her then I would consider doing an intervention with ex, kids, her parents etc from the point of view that she needs help to address the trauma and be silly in an age appropriate way.

The selflessness... And the clinging for you to come to her meeting... Severe fear of abandonment?

Bottom line, she needs professional help. And I don't mean that in a catty way.

JonVoightBaddyWhoGrowls · 20/03/2024 10:06

I think she has significant mental health issues that appear to be getting worse. For example, skipping around a supermarket or wearing unicorns is quirky. Potentially negatively impacting health outcomes by refusing to provide accurate information is much more problematic. Plus she's significantly damaging her relationship with her family and friends. Her teens love her now, but what happens if this behaviour continues to escalate and she simply cannot parent them anymore becuase she's too focused on being a child? What happens when they need to be collected in an emergency or taken to A&E? Why happens when she decides that food will only be the kind little kids like? What about when she starts following them around when they're out and about?

I think you need to talk to her. You clearly love and value her so perhaps, depending on if this would work based on the relationship dynamics, you and her DH need to sit her down and tell her that there's a problem. that you love her and love her quirkiness but it's now becoming harmful and you'd like her to address it. And will help her with that - whether that's seeking counselling or whatever.

TotalAbsenceOfImperialRaiment · 20/03/2024 10:14

grinandslothit · 20/03/2024 04:31

She sounds fun.

If this was a man, everybody would be going on saying how fun and eccentric he is.

There are plenty of grumpy miserable people around and people put up with it, but somehow a woman who has decided to be light-hearted and fun has something wrong with them and needs to be told off.

If you don't like her, don't hang out with her anymore. I'm sure there will be other people who want to hang out with her.

I bet there won't!

TheLambtonWorm · 20/03/2024 10:19

I couldn't get worked up about people's clothes, they're just clothes at the end of the day. The skipping around Tesco sounds like a way to make a boring shop a bit more entertaining too. But baby talk at work, farting and injecting herself in her teens friendships is awful behaviour. If her behaviour is spiralling the only thing you can really do is talk to her, see how she is doing mentally or stop engaging with her and possibly report her inappropriate behaviour to HR.

I think if you're going to talk to her about it it needs to come from a place of genuine concern about her, not about your embarrassment or feelings especially about her clothing.

Frangipanyoul8r · 20/03/2024 10:22

Just say “I love you to bits but that childish voice really grates on me, please stop doing it around me”.

RightOnTheEdge · 20/03/2024 10:23

Urgh no, YANBU!
You must have the patience of a saint to put up with this. It's so creepy!

A bit of childishness and fun is fine, colourful backpacks, liking Harry Potter etc. There can be a lot of quite immature behaviour at my workplace to be honest but it gets us through our shift.

This is going too far though and the baby talk would be intolerable for me.
I can't stand how much of it is around, especially on SM on animal posts. All the "gib treatos himbs a good boi!" and all the talk of fur babies, fur mommys and the like, makes me want to scream.

I think saying a man doing this would just be called eccentric is bollocks. He'd be called a creepy perv.

NotestoSelf · 20/03/2024 10:23

Thepeopleversuswork · 20/03/2024 08:16

I don’t think she’s mentally ill, I think she’s self-centred and can’t read a room. She thinks it’s cute and quirky and no one has ever disabused her of this.

It sounds as if people have let her get away with this for far too long.

Honestly I couldn’t deal with this, the description alone is making me want to leave the room in embarrassment.

I think you either read her the riot act and point out that this is pushing people away or you just let her go.

Yes, that was my reading of the former colleague who was like this (and who strongly resembles another poster's description, down to the toddler posture, glitter wellies and much older husband to the point where I wonder if we used to work with the same person). I think she thought it was cute and quirky, in an 'I'm mad, me!' kind of way, and this was now her idea of her 'personality'. Maybe it came from a deep insecurity, where she hadn't felt able to deal with the world as a grown up, so she was signalling to everyone she met 'Don't treat me as an equal, make allowances for me, because I'm only little!', but yes, you would think that the average averagely-intelligent adult would be able to perceive that this wasn't the effect her behaviour was having, and that that displays of quirky toddlerishness have no place in the workplace.

DepartureLounge · 20/03/2024 10:24

This sounds like a coping mechanism for something, but has become totally out of hand. Don't waste your time hoping it'a phase that will pass, because it's clearly getting worse, not better. She needs help. If you care about her, help her access it and try to be supportive as she goes through whatever process follows.

Defoasultananotapoocrumb · 20/03/2024 10:27

I wouldn't be able to cope with that.
I stopped reading at unicorns.

BeckiWithAnI · 20/03/2024 10:30

Okay, she sounds annoying, but you’ve chosen to be friends with her. You either accept her as she, the good and the bad, or you don’t. You can guide her to getting help, but as they say you can only lead the horse to water. It’s up to you whether you stay in a friendship or not.

JonVoightBaddyWhoGrowls · 20/03/2024 10:33

The thing about the difference between selfishness and an actual problem is that it's getting worse. So if she'd always been like this, fine. But she's got worse and her behaviour is escalating.

I'm trying to imagine being her teen and wanting to have a serious conversation about something that's upsetting me at school. If my mum can't let go of her child persona long enough to do this, then there's a problem.

nickelbabe · 20/03/2024 10:36

I vote brain trauma and she needs a brain scan.

This is the furthest thing from normal behaviour, and as it's getting worse, a brain scan is the only way.
she's probably got a tumor.

MaybeRevisitYourWipingT3chnique · 20/03/2024 10:37

tangycheesythings · 20/03/2024 09:56

She sounds like Colin Hunt.

Maybe just send her a link and she might get the message?

Yes!

Although that might backfire and leave her wondering why she and Colin are the only sensible ones who seem able to enjoy life in a measured way, whilst everybody else are just complete joyless miseries.

IDTICDTA · 20/03/2024 10:37

The first part of your post I thought she just sounded a bit fun and quirky, but the baby voices is a step too far. I thought you were going to say she talks to young children/her pet with a baby voice or she has pet names for objects, but the way you’ve described it sounds quite odd!
It reminds me of some of the more unusual comedians out there or like a character from a tv show. But I would assume none of them are like that in real life!
I don’t know what the answer is, but I can imagine it must be really annoying. It’s difficult because she sounds nice in every other way. I think you are going to have to either accept her behaving like it because it sounds like she’s happy the way she is, or drop her. I can’t see any middle ground.

BMW6 · 20/03/2024 10:38

That would boil my piss totally.

I would tell her that it's stopped being amusing and has become tiresome. I would ask her to pack it in and would stop seeing her if she won't.