AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

[DistinguishedSocialCommentator]

Hello
I come from a background/culture where education is seen as very important and going to a university is a must (My parents came to England in 1962)

Yes, more and more jobs are seeking degrees and often even when not necessary. There are many professions where you must have a degree to join the course training

However, what I and my family call BS degrees, to name but a few

Arts
Studio Fine arts
Arth History
Business studies
Exercise Science
Fashion

I cant see what jobs they will get as there must be other routes, less intensive and extensive to get the job they want

When I've talked about mickey-mouse degrees at parties etc and not be aware that some parents children or they may have studied them, they start to defend the indefensible.
The biggest bS degree is 'Politics' - WTH!! Sadly, we know a few people whose children have done that and ended up running the family shop/business - total waste of a degree

There are other degrees just as crappy - they should be banned IMO

AIBU to think these degrees are a waste of time and often do not aid the person into a job in that field?

I can assure you that the UK do not require people who work in supermarkets to have degrees.

Though many are working towards them, or have attained them.

Do you have any notion whatsoever of what an established store manager for one of the Big Four/Five earns? 100k is not rare.

I'm not even sure why I am engaging with this thread any more. I may well stop, because the stupendous ignorance of the OP is really not worth bothering with!

Your ignorance is showing through, OP. 🙄

But to help you understand, higher education is not solely about earnings potential, it is about the love of learning. It is about fully understanding and appreciating one's subject. It is about the joy of developing knowledge, it's about furthering research and life long learning, and a better understanding of our world and our fellow man.

Fortunately for me (and HM Exchequer) my 'bs' business degree, that I gained in the 80s when only 14% of UK women went to university, has also kept me comfortably in the higher tax bracket since 1988.

And incidentally the UK fashion industry earned the UK £62 billion in 2022, hardly worthless!

Thankfully your family are not influential in deciding the UK's higher education strategy, and with your beliefs, never will be.

I’m sure it’s Suella Braverman

Yup - I have to go to bed anyway - to go to work tomorrow, in a job I love - which I got thanks to my BS degree - Comparative Education and Social Policy if you are interested OP!

Brilliant!

Exactly that. Why would people go to uni and study Media/Arts etc and end up working in a shop/store or become a builder or at a warehouse stock picker.

Not everyone is the same but there are many better degrees that give you a better chance of decent work

In London you can get almost any job if you are willing to work

go to stoke on Trent, Bradford, Liverpool, Newcastle, and other run down on their knee places and it would be very difficult to get certain jobs. So choosing the right degree helps massively

Hahaha now I know you are just on a wind up OP - and also pointedly ignore my posts - especially the one about pilot training - because it doesn't fit your narrative - you don;t understand what you claim to be an expert in.

Oh and you know all the stuff you post about Kate - yeah you get all that from THE MEDIA hth

Night all

You really have a grudge against media/arts degrees.

Studying education won't get you a pilots job too. But then you don't need to go to uni to be a pilot. But as you say B.S is wide ranging so you must agree it is worthwhile as a gateway to many other jobs and opportunities. Also you can't say in one post it's pointless and not a great choice while saying degrees like that won't get you a job then post a source that shows it's really likely to get you a job in an affiliated area. You're not making sense.

Studying at degree level, regardless of subject choice, requires and will develop, critical thinking ability.

There is nothing the current government wants less than a voting populace with critical thinking skills.

Politics graduate here. £100k with a rewarding and fulfilling career.

As we say in my part of the world

OP yer bums oot the windae.

Art inc??

Oh dear lord the OP thinks a fine art degree consists of 3 years at Uni painting pretty pictures - I am definitely off to bed now - I can't engage with people who don;t understand the subject

I’ll try to be politer than previous posters replying to your query.

A relative of mine has an art degree and is now chief art editor of a well known publication online and in hard copy.

I have a business studies related degree and pay tax at a marginal rate of 47%.

I have friends from uni who did maths, engineering and English who are now unemployed/not self employed.

Yes that included. Your ignorance of what other degrees entail is showing. It's all very boring now so I'm off to bed

You just don't sound remotely informed about modern business or able to research and understand data.

I've hired graduates in film studies, media, history, marketing, journalism and dance.

Precisely because of the skills learned on their degree.

Its a shame you didn't have the opportunity to go to university but there's no need to subject everyone else to live in your poor state of understanding

OP, why can't you just tell us that you're shit at anything Art based and that you're secretly seething about it cos us Artsy Farty lot are fun and enjoy our lives and chosen pathway? And wasn't talked/forced into what you, your family/friends see as a worthy degree?

I really want to see the poster behind this account. Because they don’t half post some bullshit. 😂

Media studies degree.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13107991/The-Mickey-Mouse-degree-Britain-Students-Hull-media-studies-course-minimum-wage-five-years-graduating-95-000-debt-yes-module-Disney-Studies.html

It is absolutely ok to not know what established Arts degree course structures are and entail.

It is significantly less so to present yourself as being ultra educated when nothing could be further from the truth.

How embarrassing for you.

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator Seeing as students pay for their degrees, it's none of your or anyone else's business as to the imagined usefulness of them.

A BS degree is a Bachelor of Science degree in my country - so STEM. I would agree that some degrees are less obviously vocational and I wouldn't encourage anyone to take on a lot of debt without an idea of how they would pay it off. However, it's definitely disingenuous to devalue arts and social studies degrees. Unnecessarily self-righteous.

You're just posting nonsense now. You really haven't got a clue.

Newcastle and Liverpool are Russell Group unis. You are just making yourself look stupid.