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AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 20:57

Hello
I come from a background/culture where education is seen as very important and going to a university is a must (My parents came to England in 1962)

Yes, more and more jobs are seeking degrees and often even when not necessary. There are many professions where you must have a degree to join the course training

However, what I and my family call BS degrees, to name but a few

Arts
Studio Fine arts
Arth History
Business studies
Exercise Science
Fashion

I cant see what jobs they will get as there must be other routes, less intensive and extensive to get the job they want

When I've talked about mickey-mouse degrees at parties etc and not be aware that some parents children or they may have studied them, they start to defend the indefensible.
The biggest bS degree is 'Politics' - WTH!! Sadly, we know a few people whose children have done that and ended up running the family shop/business - total waste of a degree

There are other degrees just as crappy - they should be banned IMO

AIBU to think these degrees are a waste of time and often do not aid the person into a job in that field?

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:30

ladygindiva · 19/03/2024 22:19

🤣🤣🤣🤣 perfect response

I too can swear but its not my style. I was taught by my parents and this was reinforced at school and uni, to "swear. it shows you've lost the debate/argument."

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vodkaredbullgirl · 19/03/2024 22:30

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:28

I disagree. I've posted a thread on AIBU and IMO and others I know, the degrees in my OP and Media studies often lead to no job in that sector and people end up doing something else, so why waste your time?

I always advised my nephews/nices/etc/etc, only go to uni if your are up to it and the degree you are going to take lands you in a position where it would be very easy to get a job in the line of work they are studying for.

So you have one of the degrees I've mentioned?

Uni of life, couldn't afford to go to proper uni.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/03/2024 22:30

vodkaredbullgirl · 19/03/2024 22:30

Uni of life, couldn't afford to go to proper uni.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

DancefloorAcrobatics · 19/03/2024 22:32

I took my DS once to a place that I called museum of floating art, as he was ademant that art was useless - especially fine arts! So he was very reluctant to go. Oh boy, he quickly changed his mind! Because there is nothing more he loves than vintage aeroplanes and zeppelins! @DistinguishedSocialCommentator without arts or business studies, even fashion, we are unable to celebrate human innovation. We'd still live in caves and eat raw meat. Maybe it's time to revise your list of useless degree courses.

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:32

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:24

You expect me to take the biat?
No matter what I post, FM's like you and the others will do a 'Royal family' on me, IE, not believe me, so there is no point,

I will give you a clue, its not one in the OP, nor the funniest one IMO, Media studies.

I don't believe you even have a degree.

WTAF is an "FM"??? What's "do a Royal family"??? You're literally talking in riddles. And it's "bait" FWIW.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/03/2024 22:33

It's not much of a debate though is it - my and my family and tiny circle of friends think this - so it must be true - despite, you know, all the people on this thread with BS degrees and amazing jobs.

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:33

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:30

I too can swear but its not my style. I was taught by my parents and this was reinforced at school and uni, to "swear. it shows you've lost the debate/argument."

I've always read that swearing is a sign of intelligence. Something that you clearly lack!

murasaki · 19/03/2024 22:34

I think it's terribly sad that these days the degree is only worth what the job is later.
I say that as a classics graduate, which gave so many transferable skills, but I accept that having Cambridge on the certificate helped. There are too many people going to university for spurious reasons because jobs that didn't require degrees as entry points are now doing so. I wouldn't change a second of my UG time.

titchy · 19/03/2024 22:34

the degrees in my OP and Media studies often lead to no job in that sector and people end up doing something else, so why waste your time?

Out of interest why do you think a degree is valuable only if it leads to a job in the same field?

The majority of graduate jobs don't need a specific degree so why do you place such importance on the subject?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:35

DancefloorAcrobatics · 19/03/2024 22:32

I took my DS once to a place that I called museum of floating art, as he was ademant that art was useless - especially fine arts! So he was very reluctant to go. Oh boy, he quickly changed his mind! Because there is nothing more he loves than vintage aeroplanes and zeppelins! @DistinguishedSocialCommentator without arts or business studies, even fashion, we are unable to celebrate human innovation. We'd still live in caves and eat raw meat. Maybe it's time to revise your list of useless degree courses.

Thank you for sharing that lovely experience
However, you've missed the boat. The point of my thread is that not every degree around is good as the next
What is the point of a degree when there may be little chance of getting a job in that field?

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HighLlamas · 19/03/2024 22:36

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:35

Thank you for sharing that lovely experience
However, you've missed the boat. The point of my thread is that not every degree around is good as the next
What is the point of a degree when there may be little chance of getting a job in that field?

People go to university to learn?

Ifallelsefailschocolate · 19/03/2024 22:36

ghostyslovesheets · Today 22:30

vodkaredbullgirl · Today 22:30

Uni of life, couldn't afford to go to proper uni.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Not that I’m taunting anyone who experienced adversity or anything

BobbyBiscuits · 19/03/2024 22:37

You don't value anything that isn't science, finance, engineering or law related?
Do you buy furniture, home decor, watch films, shows, plays, listen to music, enjoy culture, wear clothes, listen to podcasts, the radio, ever read a book? If not then I guess I can understand why you see no value in the arts.

TrixieFatell · 19/03/2024 22:37

"values education"
Slags off people getting an education

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:38

titchy · 19/03/2024 22:34

the degrees in my OP and Media studies often lead to no job in that sector and people end up doing something else, so why waste your time?

Out of interest why do you think a degree is valuable only if it leads to a job in the same field?

The majority of graduate jobs don't need a specific degree so why do you place such importance on the subject?

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

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Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:38

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:35

Thank you for sharing that lovely experience
However, you've missed the boat. The point of my thread is that not every degree around is good as the next
What is the point of a degree when there may be little chance of getting a job in that field?

You do realise that plenty of careers just want a degree, and not any specific one?

ghostyslovesheets · 19/03/2024 22:39

Ifallelsefailschocolate · 19/03/2024 22:36

ghostyslovesheets · Today 22:30

vodkaredbullgirl · Today 22:30

Uni of life, couldn't afford to go to proper uni.

Not that I'm bitter or anything.

Not that I’m taunting anyone who experienced adversity or anything

I think you may have missed my point there - but if it helps I left home at 17 and worked, self supported at uni for 4 years at 22 and now support care experienced young people into education - my response was to the poster quoting the OP

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:40

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:38

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

It would totally depend on how good a candidate you are. For someone who (over)rates themselves so highly, I would have thought you would have known that!

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:40

The degrees mentioned below lead to a very good chance of getting a job in the field you studied for

  1. Medicine & dentistry – 99%.
  2. Veterinary Science – 98%.
  3. Subjects allied to medicine – 93%.
  4. Architecture, building & planning – 92%.
  5. Education – 90%.
  6. Engineering & technology – 85%.
  7. Computer Science – 80%.
  8. Mathematical sciences – 79%.
  9. Business studies – 75%.
  10. Law – 74%.
https://coursefindr.co.uk/degrees/articles/top-ten-employable-degrees/

Top 10 Most Employable Degrees | Coursefindr

Read more about choosing degrees with high employability in mind and which courses have the best post-graduation employment rates.

https://coursefindr.co.uk/degrees/articles/top-ten-employable-degrees/#3

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ghostyslovesheets · 19/03/2024 22:40

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:38

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

Why would somebody who wants to work in media or Art be aiming to work in a bank?

Chanxex · 19/03/2024 22:40

In what world is a politics degree useless? It’s almost impossible to work in politics / policy, and I don’t mean as an MP, without it. It’s also incredibly well regarded for law accountancy and mgt consultancy.

mother of a politics student who did a year in industry working for a think tank and went back into their final year with a signed job offer, starting salary £45k.

BubziOwl · 19/03/2024 22:40

I'm always amazed at how proudly and loudly people will say that they don't see the point in degrees that don't lead to a well paying job.

What exactly do you think a university is, OP? How do you think universities measure their own success?

3luckystars · 19/03/2024 22:43

I disagree and think a degree is a huge achievement.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/03/2024 22:43

Runnerinthenight · 19/03/2024 22:38

You do realise that plenty of careers just want a degree, and not any specific one?

Do I need to be Einstein to have worked that one out?

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titchy · 19/03/2024 22:43

"many jobs don't need a specific degree" - I know that you know that but would you have a better chance of getting a job, eG in a bank with a Medias Studies degree or arts degree?

Wouldn't make a difference. Most grad schemes that banks, accountancy, corporates run have their initial sift automated - as long as you have the 2:1 degree, or on track to gain such, you make the next stage. Then it's on your ability and performance in the numerous further recruitment stages.