AIBU to feel that some parents just want their children at Uni even if its a BS degree

[DistinguishedSocialCommentator]

Hello
I come from a background/culture where education is seen as very important and going to a university is a must (My parents came to England in 1962)

Yes, more and more jobs are seeking degrees and often even when not necessary. There are many professions where you must have a degree to join the course training

However, what I and my family call BS degrees, to name but a few

Arts
Studio Fine arts
Arth History
Business studies
Exercise Science
Fashion

I cant see what jobs they will get as there must be other routes, less intensive and extensive to get the job they want

When I've talked about mickey-mouse degrees at parties etc and not be aware that some parents children or they may have studied them, they start to defend the indefensible.
The biggest bS degree is 'Politics' - WTH!! Sadly, we know a few people whose children have done that and ended up running the family shop/business - total waste of a degree

There are other degrees just as crappy - they should be banned IMO

AIBU to think these degrees are a waste of time and often do not aid the person into a job in that field?

Please stop being dilberately ovtuse

You are more intellectual than all of us, clearly. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to know what 'ovtuse' means.

Jobs in art curation,galleries, museums or art education would require history of art or art… obviously it depends what field you want to go into. They would be fairly useless if you wanted to be a pharmacist. Equally a chemistry degree would probably be fairly useless if you want to become an art historian.

'Please stop being dilberately ovtuse (sic) as you know I was talking about job ops in those areas are few and far between. /therefore best to get a decent degree where there were jobs locally'

Why is it relevant where someone studies, in terms of geography? That has no bearing on where a graduate will eventually work.

I think the vast majority of us have got the measure of the OP.

The Media Studies course is after my time, but the Drama students of Hull (oh the horror of a degree in pretending) are waving their respective Oscars, Baftas, Emmys, OBEs, Damehoods and Soap Awards at you.

Your family haven't integrated well into society at all then if that's what you think

That's fine we don't want to hang out with you anyway

Carry on as you are because we'll never let you know what you're missing

Newcastle and the surrounding area is equally a barren wasteland when it comes to the arts

https://baltic.art/whats-on/

https://theglasshouseicm.org/

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Another aspect you clearly are unaware of OP, when a company is floated on a stock exchange for tens of millions of pounds, the number of skilled graduates that company features in its management team increases the perceived value of that company on the part of the investors.

Or to put it another way, investors are more willing to part with cold hard cash if the team running the company includes a high proportion of business graduates and MBAs, because those individuals have spent years studying business strategy, finance and economic theory.

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I have a degree and postgrad in one of your ‘approved’ subjects. I worked in that field for years. Very interesting, very well paid, very dry. Then I took another MA in a creative field, then I did a PhD in it for fun, and now I earn all my money in that field instead.

Whether the OP is plain ignorant or on the wind up, I don’t know, but it’s tedious.

I went to uni for photography. It was brilliant in terms of learning and education, but in terms of progressing in a career in the arts - it’s impossible without money and connections. The people on my course who done well after graduation were not the most talented, but the people who had family connections and family money. Family money is important to when buying equipment, setting up a business and most importantly can afford to be in a loss when starting up or even on the months you have a lack of business - the family money can make the shortfall. Unfortunately a lot of ordinary folk like me, who without being big headed have the nack for the craft, end up losing out to people who have no talent but the finances to cover for them. Look at Brooklyn Beckham for example, his photography book was atrocious yet still got to produce it.

Two people I know with history of art / textiles degrees respectively now both have thriving jobs and are higher rate tax payers in jobs related to their degrees. Earning equivalent to doctors.

Thats before the benefit of being better educated. Your view is so literal. I can only assume you didn’t go to university yourself.

Aye. And not just on this latest thread.

Hopefully HQ will finally act because it's getting tedious. Especially when people reply in good faith, ( perhaps not having come across them before and thinking the questions are genuine and not just goady) with often lengthy and informative, sensible posts. Only to have their opinions ridiculed, or to have another question barked at them.

Jeremy Paxman in his heydey she ain't.

Imagine a world where everyone did the “non-BS” degrees: what would you all do for entertainment? Films, TV, books, games, clothes, music: all these things are created by skilled people, many of whom studied their crafts at university.

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator At uni, you had it reinforced that swearing shows you've lost the argument.

Could you clarify this post of yours from last week in the light of that?

We all want a better and easier life. I've never wanted to work but work from the age of 18 when I left the education system. Worked until I retired early at just over the age of 50

As you are so fond of saying: must try harder.

Depending on your background, you may find many girls go to uni to get a degree, only to then get married and raise children, never using their degree. That to me seems like a waste of a space and of a degree. It's almost like a stop gap between school and getting married.

Do you understand what a business degree is? You learn theory, finance, economics, marketing, operations, psychology of people and the market and psychometrics, among lots of other stuff.

You sound like a particular breed of idiot though, OP. "I could do a tattoo" ok then, please crack on tattooing people. Would give us all a laugh.

I mean, it’s not technically factual, no. It’s a secondary source that has bias, unless you’re presenting how the media present information etc. I’d expect you to know that if you’d taken a degree you’ve listed as acceptable.

I think you’ve misunderstood the point. There are jobs asking for qualifications that there could be other routes for (but aren’t), however, that’s not really your main point. Your point is to do with misunderstanding the jobs market and not knowing the variety of roles out there. Equally, if we’re sharing personal experience, I know people who trained in medicine and left or didn’t go into the job and did something else. I know people who took Art History and are working in galleries with a successful art consultant business alongside. It’s not as clear cut as you’ve portrayed. I’d maybe suggest you start challenging your own thoughts and viewpoints rather than staying stuck in your family’s old school views.

You’re not a Tory politician, are you? You remind me a lot of someone…

You know the UI, graphics and illustration of this website was very likely designed by people with arts based degrees, right?
Everything right down to the mumsnet logo and the little posting icons. You probably think that could be done by anyone, but if you tried it would probably look like crap, give everyone a headache and negatively impact user experience and decrease traffic for mumsnet. Decreased traffic for mumsnet = less revenue from advertisers.

If it wasn’t for designers with their “BS” degrees, you wouldn’t be able to post your BS opinions here.

I honestly don't know any women this applies to.

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You're an idiot OP.

I'm really curious now and want to know what those degrees and jobs were! On the basis that 'it's never too late'!

I'm an Arts graduate and worked in creative arts management for years. As well as running my own Arts business, which I still do now.

You should have gone into higher education instead of now being bitter at others because you didnt do that. However the fields you mentioned mostly, you do need an imagination and creativity. A wider world view too. So, maybe not..

Piss right off.

Yours,

A former Sports Therapist.

All degrees are pointless unless you persue a career or carry on in life with an interest in that feild.