M25 roadworks - get a grip

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I'm sorry but anyone who lives or works outside of the "golden sphere" that is the M25 has had to deal with road/motorway closures and sudden changes in route/planning for decades.

Why do we have to be subjected to this as "national news"?

FFS they close motorways every weekend in North West, Yorkshire, Midlands, Wales, Scotland and elsewhere on a regular basis.

@GRex it should only be on local news apparently so all those people from other parts of the country should specifically tune into radio surrey to find out - even if they are travelling from Birmingham to Dover ...

As I've said multiple times on this thread, I live in Hampshire so it isn't my immediate area either.

I agree that there is an under investment in infrastructure across much of the U.K and haven't suggested otherwise. I just disagree with you that warning people on national news when people further afield that the surrounding 10 mile radius use it, counts as hysteria.

I also agree it will be gridlocked. I don't see that as hysteria - just fact. When I drove the stretch of the A3 leading up to that junction a couple of months ago, a section of road that would take me about 2 minutes usually took me over an hour as it was gridlocked.

People across the country live with gridlock every day.

So you missed the M6 closure being on the evening news then and on the BBC website?

This “area” has councils effectively bankrupt (Woking council have basically collapsed) and the spend is from national highways. Who consequently are also spending a fortune on the Managed Motorways all lane running on the M6 and the bridge deck replacements on the M5.

The local roads are a complete shitshow much like the rest of the country.

Op do you live nearby ?

If you do, then you’ll fully understand how bad it is around here when the M25 is not closed and how congested it is, let alone when it is closed.

It is going to be hideous.

YABVU

Tell me about it! My area is a nightmare. Isn't it great that those who don't use the road regularly have been warned about it and can reroute? I certainly think so.

£317 million they’re spending on that area whilst the rest of us get nothing done about our roads.

Ah, at least the real reason has finally come out @Tilkyghg6366 as to why you’re trying to paint the coverage as “hysteria”.

I am so sorry you are bitter about road funding in the UK, and that this money is being allocated to my area.

I live here. It is nearly always gridlock at this junction and has been for years. It needed improvement because strategically the M25 carries the most traffic in the UK.

As I said before , we have our two largest airports between junctions 14 (Heathrow) and junction 7 (take the M23 to Gatwick). Improving the situation at the junction where I live will hugely help people trying to get to those airports, will help folk get off quicker at our junction and thereby help traffic flow on our most used motorway.

I am sorry everyone’s beloved Tories haven’t done the levelling up business where you are, but don’t belittle or reduce the problem where others live - it’s not “hysteria” when you happen to live just off the busiest motorway in the UK.

Tilly is just going to be more and more entrenched in her views despite all the rational objective evidence as to why this is very much more significant for many more journeys.

Jeez, totally lacking in any understanding as to how impactful this will be. That part of the country is massively over populated, it will be a nightmare, of course it needs to be on the national news 😳

It's funded by Higways England the people who look after the motorways what's it got to do with local council funding of roads and schools? Two different sectors with two different pots of money.

Local councils fund the local roads and they're who you report pot holes to on local B/A roads, Highways England fund motorways.

Also will cause problems for people going to port towns on the south coast.

Lots of freight lorries use the M25 to access the port towns, they'll have fun trying to navigate town centres and ancient field boundaries on minor roads.

A polite request to stop using the word "hysteria"

Does the m25 never get closed for accidents or incidents? We seem to have had a spate of the m1 in the midlands closing every week just lately for something (all unforeseen no roadworks)

When I used the M25 frequently it was rare for it to be completely closed but yes, sometimes, if the accident warrants it. I've been on it when traffic has been rerouted on the other carriage way due to an accident.

There was an awful accident on the M27 a few weeks back led to it being closed. The south coast roads aren't really set up for that level of traffic so it was chaos!

Genuine question ( I have googled to no avail) does anyone know what the further 4 planned closure weekends are?

I have my dad's memorial service in august so will need a different route to travel from Sussex to Oxford potentially if that hits?

I have no idea. I hope they are sensible enough not to do it at that time of year due to the school holidays and the number of people travelling to ports/airports/south coast etc...

I'd imagine that the perception would be that the road is likely quieter overall in the school summer holidays so I would guess it is even more likely to be then ( could be wrong) but one article did suggest 4 more daytime closures between March and September ...

Getting out of London for me means queueing in the live lane of the A3 as cars whizz past my wing mirror at 80mph, and hoping they are all paying enough attention and move across in time not to hit me. That’s why this junction has such a bad safety record - there are no quiet times, you queue well before the start of the slip roads on both the M25 and the A3 (due to congestion at the junction), and that is utterly unsafe.

However, I’m sure they really doing it (and all the publicity) just to make Tilky feel hard done by.

@benjoin Will be taking the dog out later, so will see. To be honest traffic around here is absolutely awful most of the time anyway.

Hmmm...I hadn't looked at it like that. 😬

It’s not a competition you can hate the M6 and M25 equally. I’d also like to throw the M5 into the hat too for sheer awfulness.

What is laughable is when either the M6 or M25 have closures are the train route suggestions. I’m West Midlands and even on days when the motorways are as standard there are still more people than running trains especially at the weekend, for London and Manchester lines.

April 19-22 is next, and the other weekends haven't been announced, so no ability for anyone to plan around them. Slow handclaps for Highways England planning team.

Where do you think many London based BBC journalists live?

All the details should be here: https://nationalhighways.co.uk/our-roads/south-east/m25-junction-10/

Sorry, just checked the page, looks like others tbc awaiting various permissions from other local authorities, etc.