To think that Poor Things is actually a seriously fucked up film?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Spoilers obvs

Basic plot summary- pregnant woman trapped in an abusive marriage attempts suicide by jumping from a bridge. Frankenstein-type scientist retrieves her body, transplants the unborn baby’s brain into her head and brings her back to life. This child-woman is then basically abducted by a dodgy bloke who teaches her all about the joys of fucking, she very naively gives all their money away and because they are now broke and she enjoys sex so very much, she becomes a prostitute, whilst still having the mental age of a young child.

There’s no denying Emma Stone is brilliant in the role, but AIBU to think that it is otherwise one completely messed up Freudian nightmare of a movie?!

It just completely sums up Hollywood in a nutshell.

I didn't like the film and found some of the plotting very uncomfortable but, and it's a big but, I don't think people should comment on something without actually watching it. Any book or film reduced to a sentence synopsis are going to be badly misrepresented.

It was a very odd film. I think they tried to convey some meaningful hidden message but it was lost on me

i enjoyed it, i thought emma stone was excellent.

Have we clarified the whole "paedo" thing yet? Which also irritates me when it comes up in every Prince Andrew thread.

Men who have or covet sex with prepubescent children = paedophiles.

Men who have or covet sex with teenagers, possibly underage but physically mature = groomers, abusive, controlling, possibly vile human beings but NOT paedophiles.

I wish people would stop talking as if they're on a Facebook vigilante group.

But anyway, going to try this film. Thanks for the heads up.

@AngeloMysterioso

Its a grown up film touching on grown up themes a few or couple of disturbling ones too,

its refreshing different and eye blinkly 👁honest,
It's alternative thought provocative niche art house type of movie,

It's not a movie for the faint hearted got to admit

Visually artistically eclectic outstanding surreal 👌 interesting delight on the eyes,
like unforgettable journey of feast of artististic endeavours ect..

A few or a couple of movie scenes of quite disturbing nature 🤔 to say the least

its remisant of contemporary update Frankensteisn story with many twists and turns added to this..

Emma Stone actress is good believable in her role so are the supporting actors and actress.

If you are used to predictable American re -hash of many sequels types of films with no imagination just churned out like like allmost clones type of movies,
With predictable violence guns in certain re hash films
bound to be as its part of their culture,
this type of movie which is Poor Things will be a bit of shock 😲 to the nervous system,

As its not a typical mainstream type of movie at all...

Not seen it but it doesn't sound a patch on Clueless 😂

Sounds awful. I don't think there's anything particularly clever or interesting with the plot.

Yeah. I'm a big movie fan and love weird stuff but this one just didn't hit the mark. There were points when I was totally bored and wishing I hadn't bothered. Definitely regretted choosing it over Anatomy Of A Fall which was showing around the same time.

It's one massively overlong male wank fantasy.

Critics can say it's a comment on the sexualisation of young females, lib fems can say it's an exploration of women's sexuality and liberation through empowerment found through their own bodies and blah blah blah. But that's it's an absolute crock of shit.

It's a female masturbating for the first half an hour of the film, taken away by a rich older perv, getting fucked, in the end, getting fucked for money by weird men, one of whom gets their underage kids to watch.

And of course, let's through in a lesbian scene of cunnilingus cos the men will just love that too.

Ending up with going back to a bloke who wanted to marry her when he was watching her learn how to walk and talk.

Art. My arse.

Feminist. My arse.

Male Wank material dressed up in a pretty bow. Indeed.

If you are used to predictable American re -hash of many sequels types of films with no imagination just churned out like like allmost clones type of movies,
With predictable violence guns in certain re hash films
bound to be as its part of their culture,
this type of movie which is Poor Things will be a bit of shock 😲 to the nervous system

What patronising, condescending bullshit.

You think people who don't like Poor Things, must like and only watch films like Die Hard?

I thought both Poor Things and Die Hard were excellent films.

Whereas Die Hard 4 was mediocre and was only made because it was a sequel.

Paedos trying to cover up their fetishes as art. But if you question it, you’re not progressive enough.

What next? Men pretending to be women ‘performing’ drag in front of them, producing graphic sex or porn books for 4 year olds, fashion house photoshoots with kids in dodgy attire aka Balenciaga.

oh wait, it’s already happened.

State of the so called western world. Gone off Emma Stone for this, she sold her soul to get another Oscar, well done you (slow hand clap).

Art is subjective, so one person’s art is another person’s crap. No one is going to convince me an unmade bed is art.

The premise of the film sounds pretty awful but I don’t have Disney so won’t be watching and can’t judge. It doesn’t sound like something I’d watch (not really a film watcher anyway). I will pop over to Rotten Tomatoes later and see what they say.

Thought was a weird film

liked the sex though

@bottomsup12 @HRt @neverbeenskiing

You have obviously 🙄 never seen art house alternative genre thought provoking niche film which pushes the boundaries ect,

It's obviously not a film for the faint hearted pearl clutcher types at all, !

Watching the movies is or can be an obviously escapism on temporary basis especially 🤔 in difficult economic weird times,

Visually artistically stunning outstanding

Emma Stone actress shows a wild unpredictable aspects of this weird experiment of frankenseisn theme,

She says things that are definitely not lady like,
she is brilliantly wonderful provocative,

A child like sense of curiosity and wonder

I think when films have woke treatment or audience see a film in woke ways such as for example Opieunhadour the film about the scientist who invented the bomb and the events leading up to it,

The director has to be as accurate as possible about reflecting the attitudes thoughts behaviours of that particular era, 1930s & 1940s,
there was after some women seen this film comments about how few scenes of the female characters there was in the film..

It's rare to come across films that are something refreshing unausaul Visually artistically stunning or thought provoking in anyway

Usaully American films are predictable re hash of very familiar genres,
or
Just often consist of American typical of their culture guns violence

I would like to see female film director's doing thought provoking sometimes controversial themes Art house type of style film..

Get a grip! No more bizarre than the film about a young girl in a blended family who isn't really accepted by her new siblings or step-mother.
She is bullied, made to do chores while her step-siblings do fuck-all except bitch and moan, and she is not allowed to socialise with others. However, a woman she knows, who claims a tenuous relationship with girl and, who believes in crystals and other woo-woo, abuses a couple of mice and a pumpkin, and the girl goes clubbing. She meets a bloke, snogs the face off him, then is stalked by him until she agrees to marry him, despite never having a proper date

On a serious note, Poor Things is no stranger than a myriad of others, particularly anything by Ken Russell (watch The Devils if you want a weird film).

As an earlier poster said, the book has a whole plot twist at the end which the film misses out, which makes it more than just another sexual awakening story. The theme of memory, which is key to the book and understanding characters, was cut from the film.

The film adds in lots of the sex- I don’t recall the cucumber scene or the scene where the father takes his sons to the brothel being in the book, and didn’t feel either added to the film.

I found the plot of the book rather thin, so would have expected film adaptations to be made to improve, yet here they seemed to develop it into soft pornography with the underlying idea it was about social conditioning, feminism and innocence. What is the point of heavily adapting the book, if you are not improving the plot?

This - better articulated than I could

@cerisepanther73 Hear, hear! At last someone able to critique a medium articulately and without pearl-clutching hysteria!
Well said!

Yes it’s fucked up. It’s MEANT TO BE. It’s meant to be uncomfortable.

i don’t get the prostitution outrage either - later in the film she says it’s ruined sex for her, and the plot is about how she takes back autonomy over her body and life?

the prostitution was not for her enjoyment, it was sold as such, she got paid!

It just looks like garbage to me. So I won’t be watching it. Looks like Frankensteins monster.

Everything everywhere all at once, I was so looking forward to, paid to rent, and it was unwatchable. That won too.

@SweetFemaleAttitude @HRTQueen @bottomsup12 @neverbeenskiing

I like wide range of eclectic genre of films
Makes life more interesting to appreaciate different things
Boring world if everyone was the same..

I am glad there are films like Poor Things ect created too,

I like old fashioned films tv drama series like Jane Austin's ect
Children's film such as Charlie's and choc factory recent film
Tim Burtons style of films
Disney films

However i do like unausaul thought provoking alternative films too,

that can make one feel or others feel like they are out of their comfort zone,
like going to see a visually films equivalent of a hair raising fairgrounds roller coaster rides,

I even find it fascinating watching true life detective forensic work tv programmes ones based in America mostly,
Find it intriguing how with smallest of random evidence can catch a serial killer's...