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To be a bit concerned about what the lady at the pharmacy said

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Lalalalas · 11/03/2024 09:37

So My friend recommended co-codamol for period pains, since have had my coil put in, my periods have become so much more painful. I asked the lady behind the counter if they were good and she said "I don't know, I wouldn't take them if you paid me". What was the reason for this? now I dont know if I should take them.

OP posts:
penjil · 11/03/2024 19:34

Lalalalas · 11/03/2024 09:41

I think I might just leave it. My friend said thy were great so I just assumed they were a good painkiller.

They are a good painkiller.

I take them for period pains, as it's the only thing that'll help.

If they're the 8mg of codeine, they won't be that powerful anyway.

The 30mg ones, you have to get on prescription.

Just taken one or two, and see if they help. You won't become an addict like that!

Koulibiak · 11/03/2024 19:36

CONSTIPATION. Apologies for the all caps, but as someone who has suffered constipation from codeine, I would never touch it again in my life. I had been prescribed it, a short course (certainly under a week) and I can’t find words to describe the constipation pain.

I missed more days of work because of the constipation adverse reaction than because of the original illness for which I had taken codeine. It was like childbirth, every few minutes for days. I couldn’t stand or sit, even lying down was agony. I was at the point of thinking I would need an ambulance when I finally got better (after several doses of laxatives). It was torture.

I’m aware not everyone reacts as I did, but it is a known, fairly common reaction.

hairbrush1234 · 11/03/2024 20:21

Lalalalas · 11/03/2024 10:49

I was breastfeeding at the time and didnt want to use anything hormonal

Even though all the guidelines are that the Mirena, and all progestogen only contraception, is fine while breastfeeding?

Nat6999 · 11/03/2024 22:17

Feminax Ultra are better for period pain, they have Naproxen, codeine & the same stuff as Buscopan, you could take paracetamol with them as well if you need to. The Buscopan thing eases the cramping & spasms.

Scarletttulips · 11/03/2024 23:11

Feminax Ultra are better for period pain

It was withdrawn from the UK market 4 years ago.

Try the boots own brand.

CammyChameleon · 11/03/2024 23:31

I prefer co-codamol to paracetamol, it can make you constipated though, so make sure to get some prune juice in!

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 11/03/2024 23:39

Naproxen isn't a great drug to be taking. It can permanently damage your stomach if you don't take it properly.

EBearhug · 12/03/2024 01:03

I have had mefenamic acid in the past for period pains, then took Feminax Ultra (naproxen.) Also used aspirin and ibuprofen at times, but those are all NSAIDs which are now contraindicated for me. Paracetamol alone does bog all for me, so I take cocodamol.

I ask for it at the counter. They usually ask if it's fir me (yes), if I've taken it before (yes), what's it for (period pains,), and remind me it can only be taken for 3 days and to read the info leaflet.

I've not noticed constipation, though that might be partly because my bowels tend to be looser during my period. I'm not addicted. I have only felt woozy once, and tthat was a day where I was struggling to focus on anything for the pain anyway, and took the max dose in a day.

My mother was a heroin addict Iin the '60s, though was clean before she met my father and had me. She struggled much more with alcohol during my lifetime - that can be a really destructive drug, which you can by in the supermarket. I am not addicted at all - I take it for one or two days a month (less than that, now I'm 51.) I am more concerned about overdosing on Paracetamol than the codeine.

And I know a lot about the history of opiates, especially in the 19th century. Part of my history degree was all sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll! (Actually, more music hall.) Opiates have always been, and continue to be hugely important for pain relief - lots of people will have had codeine and/or morphine in hospital. Most won't touch it again - it's not a one-way ticket to your local dealer to score. The Victorians often used laudanum, which was increasingly controlled from the mid 19th century (it wasn't problem free - see Emma Bovary and Anna Karenina.) They used to dose children up on paregoric (also an opiate) too, to keep them quiet. It's really interesting, the history of how it's been viewed and controlled by authorities over time and in different countries.

QuestionableMouse · 12/03/2024 02:35

Mrsjayy · 11/03/2024 09:47

they only sell 3 or 4 days worth not enough to get addicted . co codamol makes me feel a bit sick I don't take them

try feminax for period pain or buscopan but they are marketed for bowel spasms.

Feminax is just expensive ibuprofen!

https://www.boots.com/feminax-express-16-tablets-10102952

https://www.bodycareonline.co.uk/product/galpharm-rapid-ibuprofen-lysine-342mg-tablets-16s/

The old Faminax that was extremely effective contained hyoscine hydrobromide which is no longer included!

Feminax Express 16 tablets - Boots

Explore Feminax Express 16 tablets. Available online today at Boots.

https://www.boots.com/feminax-express-16-tablets-10102952

ButterBastardBeans · 12/03/2024 03:40

Pippa246 · 11/03/2024 09:50

They contain codeine and paracetamol but the dose of codeine varies. The bigger doses of codeine (15, 30 mgs) need a prescription so if you are buying over the counter, it will be the lowest dose (8mgs).

The pharmacy assistant is ill informed and unprofessional. People in pain don’t get addicted to painkillers as the pain receptors take up the analgesic and there is none left in your system to get you high. Addiction happens when people without pain take them or their pain requirement lowers (eg after an injury heals) but they keep taking the same amount.

Codeine does cause constipation in almost everyone though so drink plenty and consider a mild aperient.

This is not true. Addiction is often caused by people taking them for pain and then realising they get withdrawal signs when they try to lower the dose.

The other huge issue is they stop your bowel moving so you can become constipated with all the problems that that brings.

I would be far more worried about the use of Ibuprofen than codeine quite honestly. That is a drug I see as a last resort.

Illbefinejustbloodyfine · 12/03/2024 03:47

I took them for unbearable toothache. The ovr the counter ones. Dozed on the sofa all day while the dc watched TV. Literally couldn't rouse mysekf or function..

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/03/2024 04:26

I think you should go to see another pharmacist or a GP to chat about this and to get some recommendations on painkillers. You’ve had some really good recommendations on this thread.

Whyarepeoplesoweird · 12/03/2024 05:28

I refuse to take them. Read the side effects and you might understand better. It's a personal choice

Ggttl · 12/03/2024 06:46

They are great as painkillers and are likely to be very effective on period pain but they are not a long term solution as they are highly addictive (google painkiller addiction) and therefore shouldn’t be used on period pain except as a last resort.

Mrsjayy · 12/03/2024 07:44

QuestionableMouse · 12/03/2024 02:35

Feminax is just expensive ibuprofen!

https://www.boots.com/feminax-express-16-tablets-10102952

https://www.bodycareonline.co.uk/product/galpharm-rapid-ibuprofen-lysine-342mg-tablets-16s/

The old Faminax that was extremely effective contained hyoscine hydrobromide which is no longer included!

tbf it is just ibuprofen your right? when I had periods It did seem to work faster than normal ibuprofen.

QuestionableMouse · 12/03/2024 08:21

Mrsjayy · 12/03/2024 07:44

tbf it is just ibuprofen your right? when I had periods It did seem to work faster than normal ibuprofen.

The cheaper ibuprofen lysine works exactly the same way without paying £6 a box though!

Mrsjayy · 12/03/2024 08:23

QuestionableMouse · 12/03/2024 08:21

The cheaper ibuprofen lysine works exactly the same way without paying £6 a box though!

yeah it is.

BertieBotts · 12/03/2024 11:11

The person mentioned in the thread taking thirty tablets a day was taking plain (presumably prescribed) codeine, not co-cocodamol.

According to that thread they were somehow modifying the co-codamol tablets to remove the paracetamol which took them approx 1 hour.

This made me a bit sceptical TBH - surely if you're going to those lengths it's likely going to be easier to either get plain codeine on prescription, or get hold of illegal drugs, plus how on earth are you getting hold of 30 tablets every day anyway given that you can only buy 2 paracetamol-containing products in a single transaction, and there can't be that many pharmacies in your local area that you wouldn't be noticed going from one to another on a regular basis?

I don't doubt that addicts do desperate things but it just didn't ring true as a story in general.

GimmeSleep · 12/03/2024 11:21

This is the second thread recently about Co-Codamol and it being addictive, I know someone that's addicted to Diet Coke and that's readily available in most shops 😏

For me sometimes paracetamol won't touch the sides, so I'll take co-codamol (can't have ibuprofen) but a box of 24 or however many they come in will last me around 2 months so I think I'm fine.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 12/03/2024 11:43

GimmeSleep · 12/03/2024 11:21

This is the second thread recently about Co-Codamol and it being addictive, I know someone that's addicted to Diet Coke and that's readily available in most shops 😏

For me sometimes paracetamol won't touch the sides, so I'll take co-codamol (can't have ibuprofen) but a box of 24 or however many they come in will last me around 2 months so I think I'm fine.

Aren't most people addicted to caffeine in some form or another?

Octavia64 · 12/03/2024 11:45

YouDidntEvenAskIfSheWasThereMoriarty · 11/03/2024 23:39

Naproxen isn't a great drug to be taking. It can permanently damage your stomach if you don't take it properly.

If you are prescribed it they like you to take it with a meal and I've also been given omeprazole to take with it.

pinkdelight · 12/03/2024 11:52

FOJN · 11/03/2024 10:51

Please also bear in mind that you most likely served by a pharmacy assistant rather than a qualified pharmacist.

"I wouldn't take it if you paid me" does not sound like the opinion of a qualified professional helping you weight up the pro's and cons.

This is what I was going to say. It's only unprofessional if she was a pro. My friend just works behind the counter for a few hours a week like in any other shop and might chat like this, right or wrong she can have her opinion and some will agree with it. Also -

am absolutely amazed that you can buy something that could have such a negative impact on someone's life,

Wait till you hear about alcohol!

Lalalalas · 12/03/2024 12:31

pinkdelight · 12/03/2024 11:52

This is what I was going to say. It's only unprofessional if she was a pro. My friend just works behind the counter for a few hours a week like in any other shop and might chat like this, right or wrong she can have her opinion and some will agree with it. Also -

am absolutely amazed that you can buy something that could have such a negative impact on someone's life,

Wait till you hear about alcohol!

You reckon Alcohol is worse?

I love wine :(

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Waitingfordoggo · 12/03/2024 12:32

This is what I was going to say. It's only unprofessional if she was a pro. My friend just works behind the counter for a few hours a week like in any other shop and might chat like this, right or wrong she can have her opinion and some will agree with it.

But the woman can still behave in a professional way (or not) regardless of her actual role at the pharmacy. Imagine if every time you went shopping, the checkout operator made scathing comments about you buying meat (because they’re a vegan) or sweets (because they personally think sugar is harmful) or alcohol (because they’re teetotal). It is unprofessional for a sales assistant to give their own opinion on what a customer is buying, unless the customer has asked their opinion.

pinkdelight · 12/03/2024 12:38

Waitingfordoggo · 12/03/2024 12:32

This is what I was going to say. It's only unprofessional if she was a pro. My friend just works behind the counter for a few hours a week like in any other shop and might chat like this, right or wrong she can have her opinion and some will agree with it.

But the woman can still behave in a professional way (or not) regardless of her actual role at the pharmacy. Imagine if every time you went shopping, the checkout operator made scathing comments about you buying meat (because they’re a vegan) or sweets (because they personally think sugar is harmful) or alcohol (because they’re teetotal). It is unprofessional for a sales assistant to give their own opinion on what a customer is buying, unless the customer has asked their opinion.

Well yes, if someone made scathing comments every time I shopped, I'd think I was living in some dystopian nightmare. But if one shop assistant said something mildly controversial once, I'd be fine.

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