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To think it's Ter -meric and not Too-meric?

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MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 13:42

Listening to the Food Programme this morning about adulteration of herbs and spices, and nearly every one was pronouncing Turmeric as if it didn't have the first "r". Is that right? Have I been saying it wrong for years?

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MerryChristmasToYou · 10/03/2024 14:54

@TwigletsAndRadishes , and when I go on holiday I go to Chewkey

SadCelticBunny · 10/03/2024 14:56

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 13:54

At least when people mangle almond it’s a “say what you see” mistake. So who says "Olmond" , who says "ahmond" and who says "ahlmond".

While we're at it - "wosp" or "wasp"?

Re Wasp
I say "W-oss-p"
My wife says "W-ass-p"!

I don't correct her because it makes me smile!! 😉☺️

ASighMadeOfStone · 10/03/2024 14:57

TwigletsAndRadishes · 10/03/2024 14:49

Turnip. TUR-nip or TEW-nip?

Mermaid. MER-maid or MEW-maid?

Nursing. NUR-sing or NEW-sing?

Curtain. CUR-tain or CEW-tain?

Purpose. PUR-pose or PEW-pose?

It's TUR-MERIC. It's fucking TUR-MERIC for crying out loud.

You're conflating spelling and pronunciation. Just because one word with a specific combination of letters pronounces that combination in a certain way, doesn't mean all words with that combination are. English isn't a phonetically regular language.

MerryChristmasToYou · 10/03/2024 14:57

People on the telly say brushetta, it doesn't mean that's how it should be said.

Lifebeganat50 · 10/03/2024 14:59

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 14:51

I'd agree with all of that. And that you're saying that the "er" of "mermaid" is the same as the "ur" of "turnip" and of "turmeric".

<bangs head off wall>

Wheresthescissors · 10/03/2024 15:00

I am never going to risk saying it again

DrSeuss · 10/03/2024 15:00

Would need a Hindu speaker or Urdu speaker to be sure. Turmeric is a transcription.

ASighMadeOfStone · 10/03/2024 15:03

Lifebeganat50 · 10/03/2024 14:59

<bangs head off wall>

Why? The poster is correct.

In most non rhotic English speaking accents the first syllable of "mermaid", of "turnip" and of "turmeric" would be the same.

In rhotic accents, they'd also be identical but the R would also be pronounced.

That "turmeric" also has an alternative pronunciation doesn't change that.

Hamsterhere · 10/03/2024 15:06

FuzzyPuffling · 10/03/2024 13:45

Agreed.
But it's also "yogg-urt" and not "yoh-gurt".

Not where I come from

Lifebeganat50 · 10/03/2024 15:07

ASighMadeOfStone · 10/03/2024 15:03

Why? The poster is correct.

In most non rhotic English speaking accents the first syllable of "mermaid", of "turnip" and of "turmeric" would be the same.

In rhotic accents, they'd also be identical but the R would also be pronounced.

That "turmeric" also has an alternative pronunciation doesn't change that.

<bangs head harder>

Waitingfordoggo · 10/03/2024 15:08

DrSeuss · 10/03/2024 15:00

Would need a Hindu speaker or Urdu speaker to be sure. Turmeric is a transcription.

This is the correct answer. It may be that those who invented the word can make sounds that we don’t use in English, so we have got as close as possible. And that could mean that both pronunciations discussed here are valid approximations of the original word.

Language is so interesting and I think everyone should continue to pronounce the word as they see fit seeing as everyone will know what they mean. Yes, I find it a bit annoying when my FIL says tyoomeric because it makes me think of tumours, but I am not about to correct his pronunciation given that a) I don’t know how the original word would be pronounced by native speakers and b) my FIL is always being snooty and close-minded about Americans pronouncing things ‘wrong’, and I hate it when he does that so I’m not going to start doing it too.

MerryChristmasToYou · 10/03/2024 15:10

DrSeuss · 10/03/2024 15:00

Would need a Hindu speaker or Urdu speaker to be sure. Turmeric is a transcription.

It's 'haldi' in Urdu and Hindi

muddyford · 10/03/2024 15:12

Several BBC journalists are pretty sloppy regarding words; 'nuculear' instead of 'nuclear' has me chewing the carpets.

MerryChristmasToYou · 10/03/2024 15:16

tur·meric
[ˈtəːmərɪk]

mer·maid
[ˈməːmeɪd]

GiggleHoot · 10/03/2024 15:17

FuzzyPuffling · 10/03/2024 13:45

Agreed.
But it's also "yogg-urt" and not "yoh-gurt".

Not to this Aussie it ain’t!

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 10/03/2024 15:20

I say Tew (like pew) meric
Dh say Tur (like turret) meric.

We are now getting a divorce.

marshmallowfinder · 10/03/2024 15:22

Wellthisisntgreatreally · 10/03/2024 13:53

It's chew-muric isn't it?

No! Turr-murr-ic.

ThereAreTwoRsInTurmeric · 10/03/2024 15:23

~twirls~

DiscoBeat · 10/03/2024 15:23

Chew metic here

That was a bit of a curveball!

MsFaversham · 10/03/2024 15:23

TwigletsAndRadishes · 10/03/2024 14:49

Turnip. TUR-nip or TEW-nip?

Mermaid. MER-maid or MEW-maid?

Nursing. NUR-sing or NEW-sing?

Curtain. CUR-tain or CEW-tain?

Purpose. PUR-pose or PEW-pose?

It's TUR-MERIC. It's fucking TUR-MERIC for crying out loud.

😂😂

Moonshine5 · 10/03/2024 15:25

It's Hal-dhee

Waitingfordoggo · 10/03/2024 15:27

MerryChristmasToYou · 10/03/2024 15:10

It's 'haldi' in Urdu and Hindi

Oh! How have we ended up with turmeric I wonder?

Peopleareverystrangethesedays · 10/03/2024 15:29

I agree with you but the dictionary does actually allow both pronunciations. My husband and MIL both say chew-merick and it winds me up so much but I can't tell them they are wrong.

On the other hand, ahmond sounds so annoying and pretentious to me.

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 15:37

Lifebeganat50 · 10/03/2024 14:59

<bangs head off wall>

You could save your head an awful lot of pain by just explaining.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 10/03/2024 15:38

Peopleareverystrangethesedays · 10/03/2024 15:29

I agree with you but the dictionary does actually allow both pronunciations. My husband and MIL both say chew-merick and it winds me up so much but I can't tell them they are wrong.

On the other hand, ahmond sounds so annoying and pretentious to me.

How do you say almond?

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