Are the Americans stupid for allowing Biden to go for another term?

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At Mr Biden's age, if I'm as fit and alert as he is, I'd be more than happy.

However, he is supposed to be a president and a president of a of a superpower. Therefore, you will agree with me the man is not cut out to be a president of a nation like the USA. He'd be ok for smaller countries that do not have an importance i the world like the USA but not for the uSA

IMO, those that are pulling the strings are actually hurting a half decent man. For the record, I'm nor for, not agaist his poltical party.

Possibly, some that are running the show, pulling the strings were hoping to step into Bidens shoes if he had a fall or a big moment, don't know.

AIBU to feel his is not the right man for the job?

@hollyblueivy Nope, presidents are limited to two terms.

I imagine that having seen the realities of the job, Michelle Obama is far too smart to want it. 😂

Yeah, I thought maybe she was eking out a losing campaign to build a profile without having to find new donors but yeah actually trying to win an election is insanely expensive. But you never know, there may be people amenable to having a rummage around in their pockets if it avoids biden and trump.

Barely. Trump also makes the kind of mistakes Biden does - mixes up world leaders, confuses Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi, got Melania's name wrong, is barely coherent sentence to sentence half the time.

Next thing will be Nigel Farage as PM! Seems unthinkable - but the unthinkable has happened so many times recently that few things would surprise me now! 🤣

Imagine a senile Trump... he's not much younger than Biden. Given the poor options, I'd vote for Biden.

I’m not sure I’d have much confidence in Harris, I watched the most god awful word salad speech she made. It was shambolic. Pains me to say it as I was rooting for her.

Am....didn't a lot of British people vote for Brexit?

People in glasshouses and all that!

Yes, I agree with you but sometimes voting results don't make a lot of sense.

The democrats have lots of polling that shows he is their best chance at winning.

He's hinted himself he probably wouldn't be running if it weren't for Trump and the risks he poses to the nation.

Did you watch the SOTU yesterday? He showed when he needs to pull it out of the bag he will.

Given the choice I’d vote Biden, at least I’d be fairly sure he wasn’t uber grifting or trying to enrich himself at every turn or starting an insurrection. The man is a genuine threat to democracy, I’m not one for hysterics but his behaviour is so appalling and so anti-democratic and venal that I would rather vote for a donkey than vote for him.

I also think he would turn away from the world stage, Ukraine could kiss funding and arms goodbye. He’s weirdly a dove not a hawk but the reality is sometimes ( very rarely) the americans are very much needed to project power. Ukraine is one of the places that need a present America.

How do you feel about Trump though?

That wouldn’t surprise me anymore, 5yrs ago yes but now anything is possible

I'm wondering what the perspective of the American people is on this. It would be interesting to hear from one of our American mumsnetters about their view on the two candidates. I am aghast that these two old men seem to be the only choice that they are being offered. It's horrifying to look at from the point of view of those of us outside the USA but I can't imagine what this must feel like to someone living in the US.

I agree with the vast majoirty of posts

Having a president like Biden who the media portrays as a a confused clown is so embarrassing for the Amemricans. It reminds me of the time we had owr clown and a dangerous one at that, Liz Truss. Yes, she blames everyone but herself for the hyper inflation, staggering interest rates and the after math. England was a a laughing stock when she took to number ten thanks to those that voted for her - I bet you if it was just up to the MP's she would have never got in/ Millions are paying the price for her actions.

I'm assuming those proping up Biden are and were hoping he'd move aside and they could step in but the old guy proved to be very resisliant. I guess those that control him are thinking, second time lucky

TBH, I feel sorry for Biden due to the ridicule etc in the media even by the outlets that were initially bugging him up

There's at least one American mumsnetter who has posted on the thread. I'll make it two.

Strong Biden supporters and strong Trump supporters are happy to see their preferred candidate on the ballot. Everyone else is unhappy about it.

Like when Boris was elected?

But no one really voted for Liz Truss!!

I think Biden and Trump are too old but as Trump is a dangerous sociopath I’d prefer to see Biden and the Democrats in office.

Boris was a diabolically bad PM (possibly the worst ever) but better than Trump by several magnitudes.

The so-called 'membership' did. I bet you Mr Sunak had no chance of getting in if it went to the 'membership.'

TBH, the people that vote, vote in all PM' and that a fact. These facts are simple, when you vote, you full well know that if one PM is stabbed in the back by its own MP's or is aaarested, sent to prison, flees the country etc etc, you are aware of the process of the next leadder/PM. So the Turss was indeed voted in

I’d agree with this, he wasn’t great but Trump is downright worrying. I think also it’s the American system, in a cabinet system your colleagues will ditch you and there is nothing anyone else can do about it. It’s nigh on impossible to get rid of a sitting president.

Even if Trump had been an otherwise exceptional President, with a character beyond reproach - he tried to steal and election, and at the very, very least, leveraged violence to advance his aims.

He really should be in prison.

I honestly cannot believe that a convicted sex offender with $540m in legal fees outstanding (and counting) is allowed to run for president.

What the actual FUCK???

C'mon, everyone makes mistakes 😂😂😂

Which is it?

"Those propping up Biden"?
"Those pulling his strings"?

Your posts here are just verbiage into which you keep slipping in these phrases which are lifted straight from fascist sites.

Where do you get this idea that someone is "controlling" Biden?

You need to explain your use of this very insidious kind of phrase.

You also need to explain why you are proposing the notion that Biden is being ridiculed by media across the spectrum of editorial opinion.

My strong impression of coverage is that it is only Fox pundits and points even further Right that have taken this line.

They have done this because the economy is doing fine, unemployment is low, and Biden's seasoned and steady hand continues to manage two major global conflicts. They think this is the only point they can score against him.

@mathanxiety do you think Biden will win?