Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Fed up with the current state we are in

254 replies

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 08:57

Am I right to be upset over the current state of things and that the future looks bleak?

nhs- don’t get me started

jobs - where on earth are jobs? Barely anything there and when there are they are looking for somebody who has done that exact job in an equal organisation.

bills - spiralling

food - at this rate we will be either back to the middle ages foraging for postage, or eating cheap nasty ultra processed stuff all of the time.

working conditions - there are two camps; the quiet quitters with chúpatz to get away with it, and the workhorses being worked to death.

brexit - I’ve yet to hear of a tangible benefit (apart from blue passports).

politics - everybody has run out of ideas. They don’t know what else to come up with.

poverty in work - spiralling

house prices (in SE where I live) - where are people finding the money to pay these prices?????

going out - impossible. Theatre tickets, cinema, meals out. It’s just become too expensive except for rare rare treats.

everything is at a standstill, waiting for this election so that something can happen again (or not) to jolt the economy for ordinary folks like us back into action.

am I just being unreasonable with being fed up?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
K0OLA1D · 08/03/2024 13:06

Moier · 08/03/2024 12:47

@Thisilldo
At last someone who makes sense.
The conservatives are still trying to undo the mess labour got us into in the past.
Do people really want a labour Government where everyone will be like sheep?

Do you honestly believe that? Or have you heard it spouted out by a tory fb group you follow and just like to pass it along?

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:11

80photoframe · 08/03/2024 12:47

Oh dear. Must you? Predictable if nothing else I suppose.

I was simply stating the facts. Population increases (700,000 plus natural growth out of 66million, is significant) means more demand on services. It’s not rocket science.

Actually, it is the ageing retired population with increasingly poor health that is putting the strain on services. Most immigrants just want a job (and pay taxes).

OP posts:
80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:11

2016MyLove · 08/03/2024 12:34

I will be voting for Labour in the next GE and it will be my first vote and I cannot wait. My parents tell me the Blair years were the greatest time alive and you could see a doctor on the same day, get an operation within weeks, life was happier, you could buy a house on low wages etc. That is my UK. Bring it back.

Blair was my first ever vote. They felt like good years, at the time. But looking back we can see that he

  • started privatising the nhs
  • led us into a disastrous war with Iraq
  • opened the doors for uncontrolled immigration putting unforeseen pressure on all services.

There’s probably more. Still he’s made himself a multi millionaire (at least) over it.

I will not vote for Labour this time, whilst their leader tells us women have penises. Males should not be allowed in female safe spaces.

Moreorlessmentallystable · 08/03/2024 13:13

It doesn't matter what you vote, it all comes down to profiteering. Why are now freaking trillionaires and hundreds of billionaires in this world while everyone else gets squeezed to the max. Better legislation for companies is the only answer to stop resources being accumulated at the very top.

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:13

Population increases (700,000 plus natural growth out of 66million, is significant) means more demand on services. It’s not rocket science.

The natural growth is people living longer though

80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:14

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:11

Actually, it is the ageing retired population with increasingly poor health that is putting the strain on services. Most immigrants just want a job (and pay taxes).

Well yes, the ageing population is putting strain on services too.

They may well want a job, that’s not the point I made. They’re still people. Population members putting more strain on services.

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:14

Moier · 08/03/2024 12:47

@Thisilldo
At last someone who makes sense.
The conservatives are still trying to undo the mess labour got us into in the past.
Do people really want a labour Government where everyone will be like sheep?

Gosh, is it taking the conservatives 13+ years to find the keys to No13? Are you saying that they’ve not started yet to fix things? They’ve been in power almost if not longer than the last Labour government, so I’m assuming that you live under a rock.

OP posts:
80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:14

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:13

Population increases (700,000 plus natural growth out of 66million, is significant) means more demand on services. It’s not rocket science.

The natural growth is people living longer though

Yes 🤷‍♀️

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:14

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:14

Gosh, is it taking the conservatives 13+ years to find the keys to No13? Are you saying that they’ve not started yet to fix things? They’ve been in power almost if not longer than the last Labour government, so I’m assuming that you live under a rock.

I mean to No10.

OP posts:
Crikeyalmighty · 08/03/2024 13:14

And by the way I don't appreciate those saying left wing nutters- I'm very much in the middle- I see good and bad things in both a Labour and a conservative philosophy. However what we have at the moment is basically UKIP and they are a bunch of self serving I'm all right Jack egotists- and a lot of them are not that bright either.

80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:15

Moreorlessmentallystable · 08/03/2024 13:13

It doesn't matter what you vote, it all comes down to profiteering. Why are now freaking trillionaires and hundreds of billionaires in this world while everyone else gets squeezed to the max. Better legislation for companies is the only answer to stop resources being accumulated at the very top.

💯🙌

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:15

Actually, it is the ageing retired population with increasingly poor health that is putting the strain on services. Most immigrants just want a job (and pay taxes).

Exactly, why can't people grasp this, it's allowed the politicians to not plan for it because people don't seem to get it. The same people complaining about waiting lists, council tax increases etc

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:18

Population members putting more strain on services.

You do understand why then we may need immigration. We already have more over 65s than under 15 yrs olds. From a fiscal perspective how do you manage that?

80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:20

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:18

Population members putting more strain on services.

You do understand why then we may need immigration. We already have more over 65s than under 15 yrs olds. From a fiscal perspective how do you manage that?

🙈 I never once said that. I was stating factual information. More people more strain on eg. School places, hospital appointments, housing, etc.

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:20

80photoframe · 08/03/2024 12:53

Good question. People’s behaviour (people in this country can be so negative all the time. It’s harmful), fewer wars, hope?

Edited

No, please, do tell me what’s going to happen to change things that does not involve mindpower?

I mean, every morning I wake up thinking this week is the week I get to win the lottery. I still haven’t. How many more weeks do I have to wish for the lottery before it happens?

I am also very upbeat about my 14 year old manual Skoda, but I’ve just chef and yes, it’s not turned into a Rolls. Maybe I need to give it a good wash whilst singing a merry tune and then it will turn into a Rolls?

OP posts:
RosesAndHellebores · 08/03/2024 13:22

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:11

Actually, it is the ageing retired population with increasingly poor health that is putting the strain on services. Most immigrants just want a job (and pay taxes).

@SanctusInDistress. Well thank you. I am part of that aging population at 63 and still working full-time, as I have since 20, except for 7 years at home with the children. DH and I will continue to pay tax when we retire. Many many older people will have put in more revenue than they will ever take out.

Your post was ageist and dare I say, not a little ignorant.

2016MyLove · 08/03/2024 13:23

I will not vote for Labour this time, whilst their leader tells us women have penises. Males should not be allowed in female safe spaces.

Absolutely understand what you are saying there as I dont agree that penises belong in women's spaces, but Keir has promised to get the NHS back on its feet. That is important to me.

As women we can rise up and challenge any move to allow men in women's spaces. We are 52% of the population and he must listen to us. If he does not listen, everyone will vote tory next time. I dont know how I will vote in the future as this is my first time. I want to see a Labour government in action as my folks say it was a fantastic time, much happier, less division. People keep saying I will be disappointed though!

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:24

@80photoframe

You wrote There are many factors leading to the UK’s position today. Significant ones which lead to the issues (like cost of food increases, shortage of school spaces, NHS waiting lists etc) are

nearly 700,000 immigrants into the country in 2023

Does this not imply immigration is a problem & I can't see where you have mentioned the strain on services due an ageing population? 🙈

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:25

80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:14

Well yes, the ageing population is putting strain on services too.

They may well want a job, that’s not the point I made. They’re still people. Population members putting more strain on services.

I’m going to take a wild guess here, but I don’t think you took gcse economics or understand much about how the economy and taxation works.

OP posts:
80photoframe · 08/03/2024 13:26

SanctusInDistress · 08/03/2024 13:20

No, please, do tell me what’s going to happen to change things that does not involve mindpower?

I mean, every morning I wake up thinking this week is the week I get to win the lottery. I still haven’t. How many more weeks do I have to wish for the lottery before it happens?

I am also very upbeat about my 14 year old manual Skoda, but I’ve just chef and yes, it’s not turned into a Rolls. Maybe I need to give it a good wash whilst singing a merry tune and then it will turn into a Rolls?

🤷‍♀️ It was more it’s not what happens in life but how deal with it, that I was getting at.

We all have sht. Some more than others. But one things for sure it’s the people who can deal with it better, that are happier.

Btw this is why I originally referenced not being at war etc. Because obviously that’s not a mind over matter situation.

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:27

@RosesAndHellebores it's not ageist to state facts. It's great people are living longer, what's bad is the government hasn't planned for it. And unfortunately what you paid is saved into a little pot, it just comes out of future taxation & when the demographics shift that's when economically it causes problems.

Ariona · 08/03/2024 13:27

2016MyLove · 08/03/2024 12:34

I will be voting for Labour in the next GE and it will be my first vote and I cannot wait. My parents tell me the Blair years were the greatest time alive and you could see a doctor on the same day, get an operation within weeks, life was happier, you could buy a house on low wages etc. That is my UK. Bring it back.

Haha if you think that's what's going to happen. You are deluded.

underthebun · 08/03/2024 13:28

Many many older people will have put in more revenue than they will ever take out.

And many won't hence why individual anecdotes are pretty pointless.

SailingStormyWaters · 08/03/2024 13:28

People with a lot less are still willing to risk their lives getting here.
I think people need to change their attitudes, life owes you absolutely nothing.
If you have time to moan on here about a life others would swap with you in a second, maybe think of how your time could be better spent.
At least this country is not at war, your house hasn't been blown up and your kids are well fed and safe.

volie · 08/03/2024 13:29

I agree the NHS is shit. But we've had decades of stupid sentimentality over it, which has prevented any meaningful change. Many developed countries have far superior services.

As for the rest of it, well, you can sit around whinging about it all if you like. But we're the safest, wealthiest people to have ever lived.

Some people in this country really are struggling. Most aren't, but have extremely high expectations of life.