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AIBU?

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To have concerns about this little boy

48 replies

ElsasGlassHorse · 07/03/2024 19:02

OK bit of a sensitive one here, so I’ve got my seatbelt on!

A relative of mine has a DS who is a bit older than mine, he’s now 9 years old. He is a difficult child in some respects in that he tends to seek attention via negative behaviour, eg shouting insults at you, and he always has done.

A couple of years ago, when I first met him - they had been living abroad until then - I noticed that this child talked a lot about lavatorial matters (I am being vague because I don’t want to attract Herberts). He would always ask if he could watch me change my baby DD’s nappy and then when she got older, he would constantly reference it, shouting stuff at her like, “You wear poonappies!” He would also try to accompany my DD6 and my DD7 into the bathroom when they needed the loo, and would go so far as to be sly about it, eg hiding behind the shower curtain.

So his parents told him in no uncertain terms not to do that, and we made sure we were always with the DDs and kept a close eye on things whenever we saw them, which is maybe 4 times a year or so. I thought he had grown out of it, although he still does some very age inappropriate things, like shouting sexual swear words.

But then we went to stay with them over half term and he was up to his old tricks again but this time asking the girls and his own younger sister to go into the bathroom with him when he or they needed the lav, and barging in pantless when they were playing Barbies telling them to look at/touch his willy, and then laughing when they screamed.

My cousin knows about it and they told him off and told him to stop it right away. But her view is that he’s “just being a boy” (what does that even mean anyway, and besides, I don’t know any other boys who do this!). However she says the school have never said anything about it so I assume he doesn’t do it there.

So, AIBU to be increasingly concerned about this pattern of what seems to be escalating behaviour, and should I be trying to talk to my cousin and her husband about seeing someone about it (and who?).

Or am I overreacting and should I just make sure my DC are OK and let them deal with him?

It feels more than a bit creepy tbh, but then he is only a 9 year old child.

TIA!

OP posts:
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 07/03/2024 19:04

Sexualised behaviour in a child can inficate that they themselves are a victim of sexual abuse. I would contact the NSPCC for advice.

pilates · 07/03/2024 19:07

^
This. It needs to be investigated.

Cotswoldmama · 07/03/2024 19:08

I've never come across a boy behaving in that way I have a 8 and 11 year old boys neither have ever behaved like that. I think I'd not leave my children alone with him. He's old enough to know he shouldn't do it and understand not to do something he's told not to.

Snowwhite83 · 07/03/2024 19:09

Grrrrr is absolutely correct he is displaying sexualised behaviour report to school or children's services ASAP.

Helfs · 07/03/2024 19:09

Report this to his school if you know where he goes.

Its often a sign he himself could be a victim of CSA so you need to take action and do not speak to the parents about it

Cotswoldmama · 07/03/2024 19:10

I'm not sure how you could broach it with your cousin but his behaviour isn't 'normal'

Phillippeflop · 07/03/2024 19:10

I wouldn’t have my daughters round him if it were me. That is definitely concerning behaviour

pjani · 07/03/2024 19:11

Yes as everyone has said it is a definite indicator he has been sexually abused himself. Who has modelled for him that a penis is something to touch? Argh so upsetting. I worked with children in care for a while and one who had this behaviour (and more extreme) had been sexually abused. I would also call NSPCC for advice.

Spring5 · 07/03/2024 19:12

I have boys 9 and 14 and they do not do this. Its concerning, id report anonymousy

Temporaryname158 · 07/03/2024 19:12

Absolutly not normal behaviour of a boy or anyone.

i would report this, including all historical events to social services giving the parents details including address and I’d also send it titled safeguarding via email to the child’s school

WaitingForMojo · 07/03/2024 19:13

You have to safeguard your own children op and i wouldn’t expose them to that. It’s definitely concerning. He may have additional needs, be impulsive, not understand boundaries etc, but it really isn’t normal boy behaviour.

nocoolnamesleft · 07/03/2024 19:13

Agree that this may indicate that he has been sexually abused himself.

Sobersally · 07/03/2024 19:13

There could be many reasons for this behaviour but I would definitely recommend reporting to social care/family support services. As well as exploring whether there has been anything that has lead to this behaviour they also have trained professionals able to work with the child and parents around age appropriate behaviour, harmful sexual behaviour, how to respond to this and how to safeguard the child and any other children they may have in their care.

edited to add - his parents will likely work out that it is you who has referred them to social care so I would have an open conversation and explain you’re worried about him and want them to get the right support? Once he is 10 years old he can be held criminally responsible for his actions if something more were to happen and was reported to the police, it would not be fair to put him in this position if help and support can take place sooner…

very difficult situation I feel for u OP

ButterflyTable · 07/03/2024 19:13

Hello my cousin did this to me probably about 8/9 he’d show me his willy and try to touch me.

He was sexually abused as a child we later found out. So your relative is being abused.

MinervatheGreat · 07/03/2024 19:13

Go with your gut.
Never leave him alone with your DC’s.
Visit less often?

Are your kids old enough to know what’s ok or not about his proclivities?
Frankly I’d be very uncomfortable about his behaviour and would avoid contact.

I have two much younger brothers. As the only girl in our home, my brothers never ever behaved like this boy.
Ask Google about such going on?

I might get flamed by other MNetters for my take on this. What do I know but I think you’re in a very difficult situation and I hope he soon grows out of his unpleasant habits.

jeaux90 · 07/03/2024 19:16

This is really not normal no.

I'd be reporting it.

PringPring · 07/03/2024 19:17

Don't leave your kids unsupervised around him.

Report his behaviour to whoever is in charge of safeguarding in their area. High chances he's been abused and/or still is being abused.

everythingthelighttouches · 07/03/2024 19:19

im afraid this is a safeguarding issue and indication of the child being exposed to sexual abuse.

this is going to be very difficult for you but the correct thing to do would be to report this to child service and NOT to forewarn your cousin and her spouse.

ElsasGlassHorse · 07/03/2024 19:24

Thanks all, it’s awful but I did think my reaction was that it’s not right. I don’t actually know which school he goes to but I can find out, is that where I’d go for safeguarding?

I do not believe my cousin or husband would do anything to their children but I don’t know who else he sees, of course, eg the husband’s family that I don’t know 😩. What I DO know is that he watches some really inappropriate stuff on YouTube, but I don’t think they know he does it, again he’s good at being sneaky, and told my DD that he knows his dad’s password so he can get around child blocking stuff.

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Sunshinelollipops78 · 07/03/2024 19:28

My stepson displayed behaviour like this I voiced my concerns was painted to be the evil step mom six years later the behaviour hasn't improved and is even more concerning the people who should be doing something are doing nothing it is infuriating. I definitely think abuse has went on but the mum and step dad kept him from us when we did question his behaviour

Sobersally · 07/03/2024 19:30

@ElsasGlassHorse the best place to go for safeguarding is the local children’s social services they will have a contact number to report a concern about a child. If unsure you could approach the school and speak with their safeguarding lead for advice/support with making the referral and tell them your worries about what has been and is happening.

there could be many reasons for his behaviour and it could be linked to inappropriate content on YouTube but even still it should be reported and looked at by safeguarding professionals

bombastix · 07/03/2024 19:31

None of this sounds good and it is a safeguarding issue.

The thing about exposing and asking others to join him in the toilet is really worrying. That is not normal.

Itscoldoutthere · 07/03/2024 19:32

A very similar thing happened with one of my family members children. Turned out they were being sexual abused by another child at school. Was going on for years.

BoohooWoohoo · 07/03/2024 19:33

I am a mum of boys and if a friend had done this then I’d call the parents to collect their child.
Talking about poo or bums might be funny but a school age child showing their willy and saying things like touch it is major red flags.

bombastix · 07/03/2024 19:34

Also your cousin is wrong. This is not just being a boy. That would concern me as a response.