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to be scared when kids leave full-time education

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spanieleyes22 · 07/03/2024 13:32

So I'm currently eligible for Universal Credit with 2 children over 16 but in full-time education. But when the youngest turns 20 I believe I won't be eligible for it any more. I don't know how I'm going to pay my rent or survive without it. They will still be living with me and will be in university (hopefully). What do people do when this happens.

OP posts:
SummerFeverVenice · 07/03/2024 15:30

Comefromaway · 07/03/2024 15:26

If your child will be living at home whilst being at uni they will get a maintenance loan (I assume it will be maximum as you are on UC) and they will be able to use that to help contribute towards your household expenses.

Yes they will get a reduced loan than they would get if living away from home but the amount of the reduction is no where near the amount of rent they would pay if in halls.

This is an option too. Many people take this route if their DC can commute to Uni from home, especially in major cities like London.

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:30

@Trysull We have one university near us within that distance. Poverty does restrict where children can attend.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 07/03/2024 15:32

spanieleyes22 · 07/03/2024 13:43

I'm scared of the future. I'm only 10
Years from retirement. How will I afford my rent then

Well you work beyond retirement age! In the meantime, you need to downsize/house share/relocate to a cheaper area, get a second job, and save. Totally doable.

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:33

@Howmanycatsistoomany Many poorer people can not work beyond 67 and can not get a second job. The poorer you are, the more likely you have ill health at a younger age.

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:33

Just so my maths is correct OP will be losing £40 a week?

Beezknees · 07/03/2024 15:33

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:24

London?

Not necessarily. Where I live is easily accessible for Nottingham, Sheffield and Derby universities. Possibly even Loughborough at a push but would take about an hour each way.

spanieleyes22 · 07/03/2024 15:34

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:33

Just so my maths is correct OP will be losing £40 a week?

560 a month

OP posts:
SummerFeverVenice · 07/03/2024 15:34

TheSnootiestFox · 07/03/2024 15:29

FGS, The OP asked what other people did, and I merely answered, although I wish I hadn't bloody bothered!

Also, the employment market is sector dependent as I work for the LA and I'm the youngest in my team of 10 at 52, my 'big' boss is almost 70. Look, You don't suddenly wake up one day and think OMG, my youngest child is 20. If you claim UC, you know what the rules are and some of us just act on that sooner rather than later. I am vehemently against putting financial pressure on young people as I got bugger all help when I was at Uni and it stung, and as the adult it is the OPs job to make sure he/she can pay their own way. Having an epiphany at 57 is just bloody stupid imo 🙄 but the question was asked and I answered. For me, a MSc was less about retraining and more about becoming really really good at what I did already so i could do more therefore earn more. If that's not an option then it's downsizing and cutting cloth accordingly but that's going to be a pretty miserable existence!

It’s just that your advice to the OP on what to do would require her to be ten years younger. That is kind of a big oversight. I wouldn’t be calling anyone “stupid” as that is very unkind and uncalled for. We all have blind spots and things we miss as we go through life, as someone with ADHD I would think you would have some empathy for this.

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:36

Op at 67 if you are only getting the state pension, you will get pension credit. You can also apply for local authority or housing association housing for older people. In most areas these are under subscribed. A friend lives in a small block of flats, and there always seems to be activities from quizzes to outings. It seems a really nice place to live. So please do not think your future is automatically bleak.
Whatever you do, avoid debt like the plague. Your health can quickly change, if you end up ill for a long period of time and are in debt this can be catastrophic. So however hard live within your income.

Justwingingit2005 · 07/03/2024 15:37

My friend is in a similar situation.
Youngest turns 20 this year.
Marriage breakdown reduced her to one income household.
She is looking for a second job.
Taking on any overtime offered.
Trying to gain a promotion.
Charging her kids rent.
If that doesn't cover it, she will downsize.

Caravaggiouch · 07/03/2024 15:37

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:24

London?

There are 5 universities within an hour of me by public transport and I’m nowhere near London.

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:37

spanieleyes22 · 07/03/2024 15:34

560 a month

Thanks for correcting me

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:38

@Caravaggiouch Wow!!!
Or do you mean within an hour by car?

TheSnootiestFox · 07/03/2024 15:39

SummerFeverVenice · 07/03/2024 15:34

It’s just that your advice to the OP on what to do would require her to be ten years younger. That is kind of a big oversight. I wouldn’t be calling anyone “stupid” as that is very unkind and uncalled for. We all have blind spots and things we miss as we go through life, as someone with ADHD I would think you would have some empathy for this.

I said having an epiphany at 57 was stupid. As I also said, as a UC claimant we all know the rules and you don't suddenly wake up with a 20 year old or two. You can make all the excuses you like, but if people like me with more baggage than a major airline can figure it out, then anyone can. I have all the empathy in the world for people in difficult situations not of their own making, but it's a different situation here.

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:40

@Beezknees You mean by car presumably. Those commuting costs are unlikely to be feasible in the situation OPs children will be in.

Caravaggiouch · 07/03/2024 15:41

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:38

@Caravaggiouch Wow!!!
Or do you mean within an hour by car?

No, I mean by bus, train or Metro. I live in Newcastle.

Newcastle
Northumbria
Sunderland
Durham
Teesside

Rosindub · 07/03/2024 15:41

saltinesandcoffeecups · 07/03/2024 13:56

And not everyone has to do a masters to improve their situation

And frequently a Masters has little impact on salary.

Poblano · 07/03/2024 15:42

Caravaggiouch · 07/03/2024 15:37

There are 5 universities within an hour of me by public transport and I’m nowhere near London.

Edited

Birmingham?

One of my DC is at university in Birmingham and there are lots of commuter students from a pretty wide catchment area. It definitely seems to be more of a thing now than it was when I was at university.

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:42

Caravaggiouch · 07/03/2024 15:41

No, I mean by bus, train or Metro. I live in Newcastle.

Newcastle
Northumbria
Sunderland
Durham
Teesside

What if they want to go to Oxford/Cambridge and get offers?

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:42

@TheSnootiestFox have you missed that MN is supposed to support parents? Or do you go around thread to thread telling parents they should have thought of z situation before having children?

Howmanycatsistoomany · 07/03/2024 15:42

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:33

@Howmanycatsistoomany Many poorer people can not work beyond 67 and can not get a second job. The poorer you are, the more likely you have ill health at a younger age.

Well, yes, but this OP has not mentioned health issues and is only in her 50s.

Caravaggiouch · 07/03/2024 15:44

Poblano · 07/03/2024 15:42

Birmingham?

One of my DC is at university in Birmingham and there are lots of commuter students from a pretty wide catchment area. It definitely seems to be more of a thing now than it was when I was at university.

No, Newcastle.

BenefitWaffle · 07/03/2024 15:46

OP - last piece of advice from me. Do not post on MN for advice about benefits or poverty. The advice is usually either from people who do not understand benefits or poverty e.g. surely you would get UC, sublet a room and so on. Or it is pretty horrible posters who just want to give a kicking and feel superior.
If you are successfully raising children as a lone parent while working, you are a success. It is not easy.
If you want advice on benefits or money post on moneysavingforums instead. They are supportive and importantly understand what they are talking about.

Caravaggiouch · 07/03/2024 15:46

whiskeydistillery · 07/03/2024 15:42

What if they want to go to Oxford/Cambridge and get offers?

Then they go and find a way to fund it? Same as anyone else? I didn’t stay at home for university either, I’m just correcting the notion you were putting about that it’s only an option for Londoners.