Cost of wrap around care

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I live in Yorkshire and wrap around care is available at my children's school, via a private company. They can provide breakfast and snacks.

From April the cost per child will be £25 for morning and afternoon (£10 AM for 90 minutes and £15 PM for up to 3 hrs but most leave after 2.5 hrs).

I appreciate that living wage, energy costs etc are adding to this cost but it feels high and prohibitively expensive for many.

If you use similar care in the North, could you please share the cost so I can see if it's relatively high and raise with the school if so?

Not thinking of raising this for myself but for others in the community.

I’m in Ireland and it’s similar here but I think it’s reasonable to be honest. No breakfast club at my dcs school but AS is 5 per hour per child (8 for two dc) so for 3 hours per day that’s 24 per day (120 per week) but with government subsidies we pay 64 per week. That’s not means tested

Mine are too old for wraparound care, but I've just checked what their old primary in London charges, and it's £58 per week covering both breakfast and after school club, Y1-6. Reception is more expensive.

OP are you using Taxfree Childcare to help pay towards the fees?

My bill is 240 a month for 5 days wraparound, 7.20-6pm. I pay 80% of that with tax free childcare.

Can't remember exactly how much mine was but I work in an independent school and it cost not much more to move him to my school and pay fees. (I got a discount.) He could go from7.45 instead of 8am and I could pick him up at 6pm instead of 5.30pm. Plus only one journey. Wrap around care was so expensive and there were no childminders in the area either. I found it so stressful until I moved him over. This doesn't help you but I feel your pain.

Midlands here. 3 form entry Primary school, 6 year groups. Wraparound care is £13/day from 7:30am to 5:30pm. Only food provided is cereal or toast for breakfast. Kids just play amongst themselves, the two staff members just ensure everyone is safe, they don't do activities with them (unless it's the summer, then they play games all together in the playground)..

Very cheap but I think benefits from being a large school so plenty of kids to share out the cost.

I can't see any issue with giving feedback, up to them what they do with it.

But you've said it's the school you intend to speak to, even though they ASC is run by a private provider. The school have no influence over how much the ASC chooses to charge for their service.

Even if you speak to the company that runs the ASC directly what do you think is going to happen? Their overheads won't magically go down because you complain. Do you think they should pay their staff less to pass the savings on to you as the customer? That's not going to happen. Ultimately they are a business not a charity and they aren't responsible for the fact that people are struggling with the cost of living. The majority of their staff will also be struggling I imagine.

That seems really expensive to me, our primary in east Midlands is £3.50 for 7.30-8.30, or £5 from 7am. Then 3.30-4.30 is £4.50 and another £5 until 5.30
Standards are low though, it is essentially just keeping them safe in the hall, a few colouring books and balls scattered around.

Breakfast club is £6 (7:30-8:40) including breakfast; after school is £12 (15:20-17:45) including a snack. It’s more expensive than some other local schools but I’m actually really pleased with the quality of the provision so happy to pay that. It’s a lot more involved than just containing them in a hall that some are describing.

I have grandchildren at 3 different schools all within 3 miles of each other, costs are different at each.

School 1 - W0rap around & holiday care run by an independent company.
Breakfast Club from 8am - £4.80
After School Club - from £4.80 per hour (some activities cost extra)

School 2 - run by school
Breakfast Club from 8am - Free
After School Club until 5.30 - £6

School 3 - run by school
Breakfast Club from 7.30am £3.50

After school club:
Short session, collection by 4.15pm £3.50
Long session collection by 5.45pm includes a meal £8.

This is very interesting!
Our school charges 4.50 per child from 8 am till 8.40 am, this includes cereal or toast, can't have both.
Then afternoon. 4.50 per hour per child. 3.15pm till 4.15pm and 4.15pm til5.15pm. Smallbowl of cereal allowed and up to 3crackers with butter.
I find this quite expensive for Cornwall. And also it is a village school. So parents who work 9-5 couldn't realistically get there for 5.15pm.
They used to charge 3.50 per hour but just increased it as it is so succesful and busy 🤔

@Birchtree1 God that's a but tight for toast isn't it you can get a cheap loaf of bread. They would be better asking parents to send a loaf in!

As it’s a couple of hours work they may need to over pay. If school run it is not for profit and you can perhaps find a couple of TAs that are already there, so might take a lower hourly rate. Does seem too much to me.

Yes it is. So far it does seem to be amongst the highest but some seem to think I'm unreasonable for thinking it's a lot.

Assuming that's years R - 2, the age-range might be relevant. Although I don't think there are rules for ratios at that age, there are guidelines which suggest 1:6 for 4-8 year olds and 1:8 for 9-12 year olds. If all the children are under 8, that may mean they need to staff it a bit more generously than in an all-through primary.

In Northern Ireland so kind of north.

£3 breakfast club and £17.50 from 2-6. Will cover from 12pm on early closure days for an extra £5.

Breakfast club free with food funded by Welsh government but need to drop between 8.10 and 8.30. Private options available if want more flexibility.

Private ASC 3.15-6 is £20. The school one is cheaper but has a waiting list for a year. And the one we are using has an outdoor climbing wall, loads of outdoor activities, outdoor cooking, games, loads of arts and crafts and food. And is attached to the nursery where youngest goes so they end up in approximately the same place. Childminder was £5.50 an hour, but had to collect by 5:30.

North. Nice area. £5 breakfast from 7am and £10 after school until 6.

Yours is v v expensive.

£18 a day here in the midlands if you use from the earliest drop off; £8 for 7.15am-8.45am, £6 from 8am-8.45am

£8 until 5.30pm
£10 until 6.15pm

Discount offered to Pupil Premium/Benefits related FSM

If it’s a properly registered childcare set up they’ll have ratios

It’s £15 here for after school care. No breakfast club facility any more

I think yours is expensive too. But I'm guessing it's because it's a private company (don't blame the school for this. I'm a teacher and although I do after-school stuff with kids, I wouldn't want to man an ASC).

I live I middle England, rural and middle class (I'm not!). Ours is £5 for breakfast (but only a 8am drop off which I find tough with logistics of being a single parent) and £6 ASC finish at 5pm-no food. I'm struggling financially and already excited about DD finishing yr 6 soon to avoid this cost!

In the north west. Ours is £6 from 7.30 to start of school or £9.50 for end of school to 5.30. It's £70 per week for morning and afternoon every day. Breakfast or afternoon snack and activities provided.

I'm in North East and our school uses a private company for wraparound. Breakfast club is £5 and after school is £12 up til 5pm or £15 up to 6pm. We find it a bit steep as we're not high earners but thankfully don't have to use it every day

West Yorkshire. 1 form entry, run by school.

Breakfast club is £2 for 8am/8.45am per child.

After school clubs aren’t childcare, but ‘enrichment’ and only run for an hour after school. They’re £1.50 per child, per club.