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To ask if it’s petit bourgeois to clean the house before guests arrive?

141 replies

HomeostaticSetPoint · 24/02/2024 17:56

Just that. We always clean the house thoroughly before guests, even play dates. Bathrooms, bins, everything. I’m wondering if this is because we’re lower middle class as my posher friends don’t really bother. What’s the norm?

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Wishihadanalgorithm · 24/02/2024 19:04

Born and raised WC but now have a MC job/lifestyle.

We clean a bit on a daily/weekly basis so not totally minging but when people are expected we go mad to make sure it’s sparkling and clean.

If skids appear in the loo they are always dealt with asap. Can’t believe people just leave that.

ekoreetaeaekoetetautohetohekitepoauau · 24/02/2024 19:05

As Quinten Crisp famously opined; the dust doesn't get any thicker after 2 years,
I draw the line at a mucky lavatory and mould, but don't care about the rest too much.
I've had a vax cleaner for 10 years and have yet to work out how to use it!

fabio12 · 24/02/2024 19:05

Sounds to me more likely their other friends aren't as judgemental?
If I invited someone over and they called me "posh" because I had "skids" in my loo I'd likely not feel happy having you over again. My friends don't notice if I've scrubbed for hours or none because they are here to see me or the kids.

Dotdashdottinghell · 24/02/2024 19:06

I just try and do half an hour a day, some bits of the house are clean at a time, never really the whole thing... but friends and family are welcome any time, I'd never dream of cleaning especially. It must be really stressful cleaning for a guest I'm guessing?

Cel77 · 24/02/2024 19:10

HomeostaticSetPoint · 24/02/2024 17:56

Just that. We always clean the house thoroughly before guests, even play dates. Bathrooms, bins, everything. I’m wondering if this is because we’re lower middle class as my posher friends don’t really bother. What’s the norm?

Always clean and tidy, especially the bathroom, kitchen, lounge and making sure we've hoovered everywhere.
Just politeness really.

Zippedydoodahday · 24/02/2024 19:11

I don't clean before guests, other than maybe bleaching the loos. But then again we have a weekly cleaner and our daily help runs the hoover round a few times a week so it's never particularly grim. I should probably do more though because a very hairy dog.

Maybe that's why your posh friends don't clean? Because they've already paid someone else to do it?

43ontherocksporfavor · 24/02/2024 19:16

We get up and open curtains, unload dishwasher, breakfast and tidy up and make beds before we leave for work. Then cook and tidy up after work. Before bed we load and switch on dishwasher or wash up, tidy lounge by plumping cushions etc. nobody should be leaving toilets or bathrooms dirty anyway.

Dacadactyl · 24/02/2024 19:18

Out of respect for my guests, I clean the house top to bottom before anyone arrives.

If anyone pops in unannounced and my house is a mess, I don't lose sleep over it.

nc22124 · 24/02/2024 19:20

JoeLovesGina · 24/02/2024 18:43

I always clean absolutely thoroughly, but try to make it look as though the house always looks like that. For example I will leave a few things out and maybe a few bits of paper in the bin etc.

I don't know why but I hate the idea of people thinking I've cleaned especially for them!

I do exactly this and then when guests arrive I'll say 'sorry about the mess' as if to suggest that the house is normally even cleaner/tidier, when actually the exact opposite is true.

I don't know why I do this. Maybe because I'm common 😂

Maireas · 24/02/2024 19:20

43ontherocksporfavor · 24/02/2024 19:16

We get up and open curtains, unload dishwasher, breakfast and tidy up and make beds before we leave for work. Then cook and tidy up after work. Before bed we load and switch on dishwasher or wash up, tidy lounge by plumping cushions etc. nobody should be leaving toilets or bathrooms dirty anyway.

Edited

Doesn't everybody open their curtains in the morning?

43ontherocksporfavor · 24/02/2024 19:21

I thought they did until Mumsnet.

Maireas · 24/02/2024 19:21

How clean your house is has nothing to do with social class, there are a lot of myths around that.

Rosestulips · 24/02/2024 19:23

Ermmm, if your house needs cleaning, then organise a clean whether it’s you or a cleaner is paid.

Unsure where social class comes into it.

maddiemookins16mum · 24/02/2024 19:23

Ours is pretty clean and tidy most of the time but I’ll always give it a good going over if visitors are due.

SarahAndQuack · 24/02/2024 19:28

If you are very posh, you have staff; so do your friends. Therefore, you do not feel the state of the house reflects upon you personally.

(Note: if you are male, this may also feel true.)

If you are rather less posh, but well-to-do, you may have a regular cleaner; so may your friends. You may also feel the state of your house doesn't really reflect on you - but, depending upon your neuroses, you might clean.

If it is very obvious there is no way you can afford a cleaner, then, sorry, the buck stops with you. OMG, there is dust on the shelf/the carpet needs a vacuum/the sink is filthy - well, it must be your low standards, mustn't it?!

I think people clean before guests in exact proportion to the amount of personal responsibility they feel about the state of the house. If everyone knows this is a job you outsource - to the staff, to the cleaner, to your wife - then you don't feel awkward about mess/filth, because it's not your problem.

Maireas · 24/02/2024 19:28

43ontherocksporfavor · 24/02/2024 19:21

I thought they did until Mumsnet.

Too weird.

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 24/02/2024 19:28

Our friends are all as chilled as we our. We wouldn’t clean especially for guests. They know how we live.

PaminaMozart · 24/02/2024 19:31

HomeostaticSetPoint · 24/02/2024 18:00

The question is, are you comfortable inviting people round to an unclean/untidy house? I’m not, but my poshest friends couldn’t care less

Bathrooms and/or loos - definitely, always, irrespective of who's coming.

The rest? Play it by ears, can I be bothered, "excuse the mess - red or white?"...

43ontherocksporfavor · 24/02/2024 19:32

@Maireas you what?

WhoaJayShettybambalam · 24/02/2024 19:33

Maybe it depends on how mucky your house is in the first place

mitogoshi · 24/02/2024 19:34

I'm a slob quite frankly so I'd never clean though we do use infrequent entertaining as a reason to have a bit of a clean

1990thatsme · 24/02/2024 19:35

I’m an aristocrat. Grew up with live in staff and never really learned to tidy up after myself terribly well. DH hates how messy and chaotic I am, but I have cleaners come twice a week so it’s never really disgusting.

If friends are coming over, I’ll pick things off the floor in rooms they might see, and make sure there’s space on sofas for them to sit down. I will also squish some bleach down the downstairs loo.

Aside from that, they have to accept us as we are.

JudgeJ · 24/02/2024 19:37

menopausalmare · 24/02/2024 18:02

My house is pretty clean and tidy but I will check the loo and basins before people pop over and probably have a quick hoover downstairs.

That's about all I would do too! I might also clear some of the junk lying around eg old newspapers and cups if was feeling energetic.

Craybourne · 24/02/2024 19:40

Wizardo · 24/02/2024 18:04

Oh soooooo wannabe bourgeois.

When I leave my filthy middle-class mansion house for a play-date with the ruffians in the (whisper it) affordable housing, I always KNOW it’s gonna be spotless. I mean, you can spot those poor folk with the working class pride a mile off - the sparkling windows, the immaculate porch way… and then you get inside and WOW. It’s like, what are they trying to prove with all that vacuuming?

😂

ConstantastheNorthernStar · 24/02/2024 19:41

I don't understand this thread, isn't this why one has cleaners?

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