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To ask if Million pound lottery winner who refuses to share money with partner should have shared?

189 replies

SweetBirdsong · 21/02/2024 13:17

I am surprised this isn't on here actually. It's been on the news for 2 days, and has just been discussed on Loose Women.

From the article...

A couple are waging war over a £1 million lotto scratchcard they ‘purchased together’ weeks before breaking up.

Michael Cartlidge, 39, and former partner Charlotte Cox, 37, purchased the
Lottery card together at a shop in Spalding, Lincs. But when Charlotte walked out on Michael a few weeks later, she was deemed to be the sole winner of the jackpot by lottery chiefs.

Michael admits that Charlotte both paid for and scratched the ticket. But he also claims that he was the one who suggested she buy the ticket and attempted to transfer her cash to cover the purchase while they were in the shop.
He says the mum-of-one initially agreed to split the cash, but later welched on the deal after breaking up with him a few weeks later and claimed she was the sole winner of the jackpot.

He said ‘£1million has never brought such misery.’

So, was the woman (Charlotte) wrong to have kept all the money to herself? They were not married, they didn't own any property together or have joint finances, and they'd only been together 3 months. Lottery chiefs said she is the sole owner of the money and does not have to share it.

YABU - she was WRONG to keep the money and should have split it with him. They were 'a couple.' He didn't pay for the ticket, but they got it at the same time.

YANBU - she was RIGHT to keep it - as she paid for the ticket herself, and didn't need to share it. They'd only been together 3 months, they weren't married, and they didn't have a house together or joint finances.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/20/man-claims-ex-dumped-weeks-bought-winning-1-000-000-scratchcard-20311093/

Man claims ex dumped him weeks after they bought winning £1,000,000 scratchcard

'£1 million has never brought such misery.'

https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/20/man-claims-ex-dumped-weeks-bought-winning-1-000-000-scratchcard-20311093

OP posts:
Nevermind91 · 21/02/2024 21:01

I know someone who has not had much fun since winning a few years ago. It doesn't necessarily guarantee happiness.

There is also one winner who hasn't told her husband of her lottery win. She doesn't trust him not to become a loafer, so has kept it to herself for several years.

D1LL1GAF · 21/02/2024 21:06

He should have bought his own card.

Agecanonix · 21/02/2024 21:08

Unpopular opinion it seems but they WERE both there, £1 Mill is SO much money that neither had to work for. It was a stroke of pure luck, it's at odds not to share that random luck. If it had been a good friend, she'd have shared.

If he'd bought the card she'd have expected something,

£500,000 is a massive amount. It shouldn't matter who handed over the £5.

This is all about base, unattractive but very fashionable, greed.

Humankind is doomed. Or british society is but I think I'll put my bet (and I'll share my winnings!) on humankind being cursed with greed and selfishness and a complete lack of understanding how society needs to work.

Shabooboogaloo · 21/02/2024 21:10

Oh bog off! Of course she doesn’t owe anything.
thats hilarious.

Agecanonix · 21/02/2024 21:16

But she'd been with him 3 months! You don't stay that long with someone without some interest.

Anyway, I'm basing my opinion on basic facts. Obvs if he was an abusive Cocklodger etc as mentioned upthread that changes things but the OP was based on the bare facts. So my opinion stands on that.

Treehugger22 · 21/02/2024 21:30

I would give him some money like 20k nothing else. He's a recent partner.

SweetBirdsong · 21/02/2024 21:37

Agecanonix · 21/02/2024 21:08

Unpopular opinion it seems but they WERE both there, £1 Mill is SO much money that neither had to work for. It was a stroke of pure luck, it's at odds not to share that random luck. If it had been a good friend, she'd have shared.

If he'd bought the card she'd have expected something,

£500,000 is a massive amount. It shouldn't matter who handed over the £5.

This is all about base, unattractive but very fashionable, greed.

Humankind is doomed. Or british society is but I think I'll put my bet (and I'll share my winnings!) on humankind being cursed with greed and selfishness and a complete lack of understanding how society needs to work.

They were together for 13 weeks! 😆

I've had food in my fridge longer than the amount of time they dated!

She owes him nothing.

And the lottery bosses said so too.

He says he is going to 'take it further.'

He will get nothing, and end up owing 1000s in legal fees.

Idiotic man!

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OP posts:
MILTOBE · 21/02/2024 22:52

I do think it would have been different if he'd given her the winning numbers but she'd paid for the ticket. She really wouldn't have won otherwise.

All he did was say "Buy a ticket" - that isn't enough to say he owns half of the winnings.

ArrrMeHearties · 22/02/2024 08:11

She bought the ticket, she scratched it and more importantly it's her details on the back of it so its seen as her money. Personally I wouldn't give him a penny of it

CormorantStrikesBack · 22/02/2024 09:37

MCOut · 21/02/2024 19:40

I don’t know why I’m continuously surprised by the brazen nature of man.

Imagine being so shameless you try to publicly shame your ex into giving you hundreds of thousands of pounds when you are about to go on trial for violence against another ex. That’s before you even consider they were only together for three months, she paid for it and he tried to steal it. How is this man not embarrassed?

Because sadly there’s enough idiots out there to support his viewpoint. I saw this story on fb yesterday and 99% of the comments were saying she should have shared, she’s selfish, etc. men calling her names.

Julianne65 · 22/02/2024 10:14

He needs to let it go. Three months is not a relationship.

Sillysausagedog · 22/02/2024 11:10

You don't 'attempt' to transfer someone money. You either do or you don't.

He has no right to any of her winnings!

Nothankyou22 · 22/02/2024 16:56

I’d cry if it was the other way around though

PaintedHair · 22/02/2024 17:42

I have been caught with transferring money before where it’s taken an age even though money in my account. I can see how that has happened. They were together for 13 weeks and apparently she still moved him into her house with her dc. Irrelevant.
Either way no way would I be giving him half - I May bung him £10k until I found out about the assault charge on an ex.
The biggest laugh for me was the shopkeeper going to the papers to say she agreed with the ex boyfriend 😂 Everyone so desperate for their £250 from a red top paper 🙄

Greenshed · 22/02/2024 18:13

It sounds as if she has had a narrow escape if he’s facing charges for serious assault on an ex. He hasn’t got a leg to stand on, and no way should she be expected to share the money with him if she doesn’t wish to. He sounds a proper charmer.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 22/02/2024 18:17

3 months? No I wouldn't share. 3 years? Possibly if the relationship ended naturally without cheating or abuse.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 22/02/2024 18:19

CormorantStrikesBack · 22/02/2024 09:37

Because sadly there’s enough idiots out there to support his viewpoint. I saw this story on fb yesterday and 99% of the comments were saying she should have shared, she’s selfish, etc. men calling her names.

I imagine most didn't read the article and after seeing the word 'partner' assumed they had been together a long time. I thought it was a bit off until I actually read the article.

OneFrenchEgg · 22/02/2024 18:33

Well unpopular opinion but it seems it was his idea and she bought them at his suggestion. I often see couples buying reams of cards and transferring a couple of quid to each other plus the and I think they both sound unpleasant and should share.

JustAnotherManicMomday · 22/02/2024 19:41

They didn't buy it, she did, and when have you ever seen a couple buy a scratchcard and the partner is offering to transfer half the price....NEVER. No doubt he tried to buy into it after she won. Then she probably ended it because he kept saying half of it was his when told it wasn't. So his now trying to get his 15 minutes of fame acting hard done by.

OneFrenchEgg · 22/02/2024 19:43

I disagree I see loads of couples pooling tiny amounts of cash in some areas to buy stuff. I guess I've formed an opinion which is fairly negative about them based on the article and what I see locally.

Dibbydoos · 22/02/2024 19:53

There is sufficient evidence of him either attempting to or actually funding the ticket.

I get they can only pay one winner unless its a syndicate but she will need to share it with him.

I think she's being greedy tbh.

I'd get this in court and prevent her spending the money ASAP if I was him. He'll find a lawyer to help him for a cut of the proceeds...

THisbackwithavengeance · 22/02/2024 19:58

I've never seen such a load of bollocks in my life.

He's trying to portray himself as her partner.

He was a short term boyfriend who just happened to be in the shop with her when she bought a ticket.

I'm glad she told him to get fucked.

TheFretfulPorpentine · 22/02/2024 20:15

Dibbydoos · 22/02/2024 19:53

There is sufficient evidence of him either attempting to or actually funding the ticket.

I get they can only pay one winner unless its a syndicate but she will need to share it with him.

I think she's being greedy tbh.

I'd get this in court and prevent her spending the money ASAP if I was him. He'll find a lawyer to help him for a cut of the proceeds...

I doubt that any lawyer would touch the case on a 'no win, no fee' basis, because the chances of winning are minuscule.

browneyes77 · 22/02/2024 20:41

Sparklesocks · 21/02/2024 13:46

As others said I bet he only tried to transfer the cash after she’d won. And I know every banking app is different but with mine the money instantly transfers or it doesn’t, it doesn’t do it 40 mins later. If there’s no signal then it will fail and you have to manually try again, but it won’t automatically retry itself some minutes later. Even if that’s true, the money didn’t clear at the time of purchase so she used her own cash to buy them.

i think he’s at it. And they aren’t married so I can’t see how he has legal grounds.

Exactly this.

My banking app (Lloyds) will transfer the money immediately but if there’s not signal the payment will fail. It wouldn’t just sit there for 40 mins trying to transfer the cash.

Simple fact is SHE bought the card. And was smart enough to put her name on it.

And I’ve read he’s up on an assault charge for his ex girlfriend, so if that’s true, I’d say we know all we need to know about this guy!

ftp · 23/02/2024 00:00

I think if he was giving me attitude and pressuring to split and demanding share, then I would walk away with the lot just for the aggro, especially as he stole it and tried to claim.
However, if they were shopping as a couple and he had suggested that they buy some tickets, then perhaps he did have some claim. But the act of transferring the cost of the ticket once he knew she had won is a bit aggressive.
But was she in the habit of buying tickets with her shopping before. I wonder?
Possibly if he had been a bit gentler about it, she may well have shared, or at least treated him. I wonder what she would have done if she had won just £20 or so - bet she would have spent it jointly.
Money like this does often make people act badly.