To think the NMC holding a hearing to decide whether Lucy Letby should be struck off the nursing register is ridiculous

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I mean, how is this a good use of public money?

Why do you think it is paid for by public money, the NMC is funded by registration fees.

Much better to dispense with the formalities and skip this step thus letting her successfully get the decision set aside of she wishes and drag the whole thing out.

Should definitely allow the powers that be just rubber stamp the obvious cases to save money, but then we'll need a panel to adjudicate on whether a case is an obvious one or not, so we're just back to square one.

Who do you think should decide who gets to be struck off? You?

Are you seriously saying they shouldn’t follow process to strike her off?

It's pointless, she won't be doing the 450 hours over 3 years needed to keep her pin

They are following established protocol, as they should do in all cases, otherwise their rules and organisation would be pointless.

Yeah I pay an excessive amount of money every year for the nmc shitshow. No choice.

I guess it’ll be quick so hopefully not cost too much but yeah they could have just let her registration run out. She can’t revalidate. In fact I bet it’s already lapsed

Forgive me, but surely they want to bar her from being able to practice by striking her off. In case, god forbid, her cases get overturned on appeal?

Could someone explain this please.

Her appeal has already been refused once

Probably but if she hasn’t worked 450 hrs in the last three years she’s off the register anyway and can’t get back on without a return to practice course. Which she’d never be accepted onto.

She could, presumably, hypothetically have her sentence reduced to a year on appeal as far as the NMC are concerned. Obv not going to happen but they need to separately need to ensure she cannot practice nursing again.

They need to follow due process for everyone, even the head scratchingly obvious cases. Then there is no chance of people appealing the decision on the grounds of procedure not being met and causing a load of faff, or an error being made in deciding who is an obvious case. Simplest and fairest just to tick the boxes every time.

Maybe they’re worried she gets out in 25 years time (unlikely) and applies for return to practice and everyone has forgotten what she did (very unlikely).

Of course processes need to be followed.

I assume you mean if sentence is successfully appealed? Because she's one of the few prisoners without chance of parole.

Well, yes, processes. But you’d think a motion to fast track and simplify the process to say ‘all in favour…etc’, over email in the case of, oh, I don’t know, MURDERING BABIES, would be sensible.

OP, do you really not think she should be struck off?!

She needs to be struck off. Not just left to let her registration expire. She's committed murders whilst under NMC registration so they should have the chance to take her registration off her. However they have processes they have to follow and that's what they are doing. That's why we pay our registration to them, to ensure regulation.

I am a nurse and several years ago a colleague got sacked for gross misconduct and still had to go through an NMC hearing, despite the fact she was in prison at the time.

It is the right thing to do because if she ever got released on a technicality or an appeal (unlikely but possible) they need to show they followed the correct procedure to ensure she isn't able to revalidate.

It's really important that due process is followed properly and she is removed from the register entirely.

I work in a different profession with similar registration processes and you wouldn't believe the lengths some people go to to attempt to remain a registered practitioner despite e.g. committing criminal offences.

Its not just about Letby, it's about maintaining the proper processes of the registering body.

It will just be a rubber stamping job though, she's already been on suspension for ages and it's been reviewed/renewed every six months waiting for the court outcome.

It's paid for through registration fees though, so don't worry it's other nurses that are paying for it not you.

She needs to be struck off. This is how that happens. I don’t suppose it will be a long, complicated hearing.

One of the great things about retiring from the register was being able to tell the NMC to stick their ludicrous charges up their arse.

Established protocol when it clearly screams against common sense and logic really bothers me.

It’s just following due process. It will be clear cut.

Yes. I know. So does everybody!