to think that 6000 per month is excessive for the government to take off my pay for tax?

[tootaxed]

Surely there should be a maximum limit that each person has to pay as tax? Six grand per month in tax is just excessive imo. And that is before NI contributions etc. If the government set a maximum tax limit they would take more care over how they spent their central funds. And I wouldn't have to work so many hours away from my DCs only to have 72 bloody grand a year taken off my income to fund their mis-spending.

shit, sorry about that .. kept cursor over post .. but didn't actually mean to post

I apologise unreservedly .. that was snippy

hahahahahahaha

have scanned and noticed the usual subjects on here, no surprise there then

we could have lots more money but prefer to finish work early and see our children, what freaks we are!

"If that offends some of you lower wage earners, so be it"

eeh, yer just don't know whether to laugh or cry, du'thee?

Well cry, because it strikes me that it's this attitude ruling the country.

Walnutshell - now go and re-read Xenia's posts about the superior emotional intelligence of the highly paid then laugh yourself silly. 'you lower wage earners' dear god

(and pagwatch I know it's not everyone, none of my highly paid friends are that crass. They wouldn't be my friends if they were).

I think that we should all grow forelocks so that we can tug them.

I've just read the thread (yes it took ages).

I had to input into it. Today I started a new job - I am not bragging when I say this, but I am a very high earner, my daily rate is criminal and I would guess it is higher than Xenia's.

The reason I say this is that I dont agree that the people who earn more work harder - yes I do work hard, infact, I work my bollocks off and have done over many years to get where I am, but.....I am well aware that the people who work for me, earning a fraction of what I do, make it possible to do my job. They work much harder, their jobs are higher risk than mine, as if they dont deliver they are out, whereas if I was out for not delivering, I'd get another job of equal pay relatively easier than they would.

Yes, I pay a huge amount of tax too, but why shouldnt I? I am only here and able to do it due to my reliance on other people who work just as hard and earn a pittance in comparision - I couldnt work without my staff, without my cleaner, without my nanny, without nurses, without people from the services fighting for our country etc.

The people on benefits shouldnt really moan about people earning more though - the tax payers are the ones supporting their benefits. I am not saying that these people shouldnt get benefits, of course they should if needed, but they wouldnt be able to if it wasnt for people (of all salaries) paying a large amount of tax.

My tax is probably more than most people earn in a year, but I wouldnt moan - I am fortunate enough to not struggle despite me paying this tax and I certainly dont feel it as much as people who earn less do.

Thanks for that, dt.

Nice to hear from you and the others who don't mind paying tax. (I don't mind either, though I'm not a big earner.)

And you know what - it's great to hear about your 'criminal' daily rate!

I'm not jealous, and I think a most of the posters on here aren't either - just a little impatient with the complaining from those who are really quite fortunate.

good post droopytits.
yes i agree with clairePO, you need to check your bank account not read your payslip.

PMSL @ Twig.

' You Lower wage earners '

Anyone got a wet fish to slap round some heads round here ?

still PSML at twig - you have really brought a smile to my face and a grounding to this thread

just showed DH this thread and a couple of the choicest posts (namely TT's last post and Xenias confident knowledge of the NHS). and the male viewpoint is yes income taxed should be capped after you have paid your first million.

But for all that dosh, you do have droopy tits

Senora

Had the Northern Rock gone to the wall, absolutely nothing would have happened to the people with mortgages. The employees would have lost their jobs but they are going to lose their jobs anyway. Unfortunately. The people who might've suffered are the savers. And even that is arguable.

I must say, Olive my old dear, that your post of 21:24:01 was rather inspired!

Precisely, the usual suspects. We applaud you.

Not.

There is no chance in getting it capped. There's no movement in the country for lower taxes either. So the only hope is to keep it at 41% or move to Hungary on 10% or whatever. If the original posters is an employee there may be ways she can reduce her tax if she could restructure her role, perhaps set up a business on her own and contract back her services but that would probably remove the security of employment that is comfort to her after past uncertainties. I have never said what I earn but I do pay tax/NI on my highest earnings at 41% and the overall amount is too high that is partly because I don't morally believe in different tax rates nor that Government should have the role it has. People with different political view points may well be happy to pay what they pay. And of course not that I would expect an iota of sympathy from anyone our financial position was in some sense ruined by the sums I had to pay to the children's father on divorce. Go back 30 years and maintenance payments were tax deductible. They aren't now. So really would have been better never to have worked, married someone like me who earns a lot and I be the one ripping him off on divorce whilst sitting idle at home rather than vice versa.

I pay little or no tax because I choose to work about 2 shifts a week with a few long weekends away, have great holidays in static caravans, clean my own house, tend my own little garden, do my own DIY, live in a modest house and spend loads of time with my children paying no childcare. Oh us lower wage earners, don't you just wish we paid more tax .

Imagine having to spend all day everyday with the children, what would the nanny and the aupair do?

scramble you sound a lot like me, but I can't get the hang of DIY, so our living room hasn't been done up in 10 yrs!!

do think the op needs to think of how she can change her life around a bit if looking at a hefty wage slip makes her cry

You cannot guarantee a secure future for your children just by earning lots of money and never seeing them!You may provide a better standard of living but they will dictate how successful your parenting has been when you see how they are as adults and looking at the children of many high profile/celebs who were well provided for financially but had absent parents as they grew up you could be in for a shock or be spending some of your money on the priory!

Living in a family of nurses/Oxbridge educated lawyers/Oxbridge educated non-lawyers I can say that academic intelligence does not necessarily = intelligence in daily life and it most definitely does not = emotional intelligence.

I find qualifications a very poor guide of how I'm going to get on with someone. Or even how intelligent I find them. I certainly know people with bugger all qualifications who are very intelligent. Also met a few people at Oxford who were academically able but not necessarily 'intelligent'. The brightest person I met there got chucked out after a year.

Don't mistake qualifications for intelligence.

academic qualifications measure the ability to pass exams and retain information about that specific subject. it is erroneous to say Intelligence = qualifications

Qualification is an indication of one's ability to pass exams, meet professional criteria, and attain a designated pass in chosen subject

not to demean academic qualifications, at all. however the do not necessarily equate intelligence

they are more likely to be a measure of one's socio-econoomic background and other advantages

Tootaxed, do I read you correctly? You think £50,00 tax per person paid per annum is sufficient tax for this country to deliver the services it does? Or is that the price or value you put on having services, such as health care available to you? Or even an ambulance to rush out in case you have a stroke?

Cloud-cukoo land springs to mind.

I run a small (ish) software compnany. I dont make as much money as you, I possibly work less hours as I love being with my kids, I dont begrudge paying tax.

I think droopytits attitude is much more admirable than yours, but again she comes across as she has thought through this subject.

It is an interesting debate, though I wonder, if it isnt a wind-up.