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AIBU to invite them all to ours?

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Shlr · 17/02/2024 23:25

TLDR (Too long didn't read): lots of family staying over, they're really stressing DH out, should I invite them to hang out at our house tomorrow as the weather looks too bad for a walk?

My mum, brothers, their partners and kids have all been planning a belated Christmas celebration this month. The location was tbc for a long time but more recently it was decided that it would be in London, where my brother who has a newborn lives, as travelling is difficult for them. We live in London too. Other brothers have travelled from Wales and elsewhere to be in London with us. We're a big group, 11 adults and 6 children aged 2 months - 6 years.

My mum and one brother and his partner are staying in our house for 2-3 nights whilst others are staying either at my other brother's or with friends.

It's been tricky to decide on a good place to all hang out as we are such a big group. We've done a museum followed by hang at my brother's, and we've done a pub lunch followed by hang at our house.

It's busy and chaotic but I love having everyone here. We don't have guests often and I tend to get a bit lonely in every day life, so I really like this.

To backtrack though, my DH feels the opposite. He's had an incredibly busy and stressful year with work, and has finally been given a week off to recover. Ideally for him, he'd have had no plans whatsoever and been able to rest and catch up on life admin.

Unfortunately it has been half term so we've had both kids (2 and 5), plus it just so happens that this family event is occuring at the same time. So he's pretty unhappy about it all in general.

While he's a social guy, he likes to have his own space. He thinks our house is too small for our little family of 4, so when 17 people pile in he feels cramped! It also doesn't help that he hates mess, whereas my family don't really notice it and can be quite messy.

Earlier in the week DH had asked me to not have too many people stay over (I had to ask one bro to stay at a friend's when we could easily have squeezed him in). He asked me to ask my mum to leave on Sunday instead of Monday so he could have his Sunday night to chill as he was anxious about starting back at work on Monday. He also asked me not to invite everyone here on Sunday morning as he finds it too stressful. He also didn't want me to let anyone know that these were his requests so as not to fall out.

I did the first two things. I felt guilty and awkward asking my family members not to stay and it was so hard to be tactful and not hurt their feelings.

Since all of this, DH is actually now feeling less anxious about work on Monday because he's managed to arrange a few additional days off next week. I also tried to take care of the kids all last week and give him the space be needed to recover from this year of really stressful work. (I should point out it's been quite a stressful year for me too, with the kids, as he's been so absent). DH now says we should have let my bro stay (too late) and that my mum doesn't have to leave on Sunday. She feels better knowing that.

So anyway -
Tomorrow (Sunday) we don't have a plan but want to get together. We were going to plan a walk but it's supposed to rain. My mum keeps pushing for us to all hang out at our house again (even though DH specifically requested not to). The others all agree that our house is bigger than my brother's place and has more toys / entertainment for the kids. I agree, and it's nicer in my opinion! Plus, even if the weather was good, a walk would be hard on my mum who has arthritis in her hip and walks slowly with a stick. And museum trips are too tiring and everyone goes off in different directions, and pubs are very expensive/ not to mention hard to get a table late notice for such a big group.

So when everyone was asking me what we'd do tomorrow, it seemed so logical to me that everyone should just come here again. Plus my mum keeps pushing for it, along with others, so I was in a tricky position. I knew it made sense, I knew my DH didn't really want it, but I didn't want anyone to feel unwelcome. So I went along and said in as uncommitted a way as possible that we should probably hang out at ours and would confirm in the morning.

That's where we are. DH is pushing for a walk even if the weather isn't great. He would way rather we went to my brother's place but no one else wants to and I don't have a good reason to request it without telling people DH doesn't want them here.

If it's really rainy in the morning I'm not sure what I'll do!

Would I be unreasonable to persuade DH that everyone should come here? Or should I be more considerate towards him?

OP posts:
MadeOfAllWork · 18/02/2024 08:55

I’m with your DH. The very thought of that many people, who aren’t even my family but my in-laws, all being in my house fills me with dread. Add to that it being a week off where I want to rest. No way.

But, if I were your DH I would decamp to a local coffee shop with a book.

OolongTeaDrinker · 18/02/2024 09:00

Has he been pulling his weight with the kids over half term or leaving you to it? If it’s a rare family gathering I would suggest he goes out for the day if he really can’t handle it.

Simplelobsterhat · 18/02/2024 09:01

I do think unfortunately if your only other local relative has a 2 month old baby then unless he AND HIS DP are very enthusiastically inviting people there, it should be you rather then him. Can you imagine his DP's AIBU compared to your DH's?

user1471462634 · 18/02/2024 09:01

Will you regret it OP tomorrow if you don't invite them?

I would do it & get it of the way because there will always be pressure in years to come of "why don't we meet at Shlr's house?"

You say your husband is social but sounds like he's social on his own terms. He can go off and read in the bedroom if he needs a bit of space.

He's off work for the next 3 days, this is your family, it's not like it's every weekend. He is just thinking about himself I'm afraid.

TheChosenTwo · 18/02/2024 09:03

I think this has just come at a bit of an awkward time for many reasons, one of them being your dhs situation and another being that the weather is always shit at this time of year. With a group as big as this you need to have some structure or just accept that there will be long periods of time where you’re just together in a house.
I’d send DH off for a few hours, maybe to your brothers as I guess his house will be empty if dh doesn’t want to actively socialise - could just say he needs to do some work before going back to work.
But next time perhaps everyone ought to consider the needs of the households who are descended upon before you make these plans and then book somewhere else.

Pottedpalm · 18/02/2024 09:04

Is there a garden centre with good cafe you could go to for lunch or brunch? You could split into three smaller groups rather than wanting a huge table. Then later a park visit for those able to ; a couple of people might prefer to stay back. Anything to break up the long afternoon.

Heronwatcher · 18/02/2024 09:10

TBH I think your DH sounds precious and controlling. Assuming this doesn’t happen often he needs to suck it up or take himself off somewhere else for the morning. They are your family, some have travelled a long distance and to make everyone go for a walk in the rain instead of hanging out in your house is just plain odd.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, do you think he knows he can leave (so he could maybe stay for 15 mins and make his excuses), and is he worried that the place will get trashed (if so can you reassure him about that?).

determinedtomakethiswork · 18/02/2024 09:14

Precious and controlling to not want 17 messy people in a small house?!

Comtesse · 18/02/2024 09:15

Many people would feel a bit Confused about 17 people popping round for some spontaneous socialising. He is not being unreasonable on that point…..

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 18/02/2024 09:19

determinedtomakethiswork · 18/02/2024 09:14

Precious and controlling to not want 17 messy people in a small house?!

Especially if the messiness is 'just how they are' which is often code for they and their ex destroy other peoples property and don't clear up after themselves!

BarrelOfOtters · 18/02/2024 09:20

My DH loves having his family round…when it gets too much for me I escape, to the garden, out with friends, vague ‘popping out’. They know I do this now,everyone happy. At times I just say,you are all too much. I’m off out for a bit, I know them well enough now, . I think if this is a one off event your dh should suck it up and find his own escape route.

Shinyandnew1 · 18/02/2024 09:21

My mum, brothers, their partners and kids have all been planning a belated Christmas celebration this month.

What normally happens with this group of 17 at Christmas?

LorraineBainMcFly · 18/02/2024 09:24

@Shlr are you and dh more financially successful so your family feel entitled to be 'hosted' by you?

Heronwatcher · 18/02/2024 09:26

Plus, you say it’s a belated Christmas (so I am assuming that you didn’t see most of these people at Christmas itself), I assume it’s a chance for many people to see the newborn, and if there are 11 adults, even if it’s a bit chaotic/ messy whilst everyone is there you can have a bit of a tidy up before they leave. AND it sounds like you’ve been managing the kids for half term so he has had a good stint of quiet time over the last week.

Even without this though I would never ask my partner’s mum (and my kids’ granny) to leave on a specific day when I knew she didn’t want to, so I can do my ironing on a Sunday or whatever- I think that’s just rude/ hurtful to her and you. Especially when it’s just a few days, it’s not like she’s been there for 3 weeks!

Overall it sounds like his stress from work is stopping you enjoying family life properly- so regardless of what you fo this weekend I’d try to do something about that situation rather than accommodate all of this “she must leave on X day” and you having to keep the kids out of his way for half term stuff.

YeahIsaidit · 18/02/2024 09:26

I think it's really unfair to your DH. He's stressed out, wanting to chill after working hard and you want to pile 17 of your family members into your house. Make alternative plans

gannett · 18/02/2024 09:26

This is the kind of thing you can be expected to suck up if it's planned in advance and you're forewarned. 17 people descending spontaneously on your house on a Sunday, with work the next day? Absolutely not. You didn't have a plan for today and that's the real issue here. 17 people hanging out requires a plan and a back-up plan in case of rain as well.

I wouldn't be agreeing to take myself off out of my house on a day like today either.

WimpoleHat · 18/02/2024 09:28

A friend of mine has this sort of family set up. They always organise a holiday home. This splits all the cost and nobody gets left with the mess and hassle. Is that something you could look to do going forward?

gannett · 18/02/2024 09:29

Also if you're in London there should be plenty of things you can do outside the house but also indoors. There are options beyond museum, pub or house.

PoppingTomorrow · 18/02/2024 09:31

The rain has stopped and sun has come out so just all go to a park with cafe?

Heronwatcher · 18/02/2024 09:32

To those saying plan in advance, they did make a plan but the weather has scuppered it- plus sometimes things change at the last minute. I agree hiring a holiday house might be an alternative but surely that would be worse for the DH as he’d have them for the whole long weekend with no chance to escape, and it’s not ideal for the family with the newborn, plus hiring a holiday house for 17 people anywhere (but especially in London) will cost a fortune, plus it’s an administrative nightmare for someone to take on (especially when theses a perfectly nice house with stuff for the kids to do available).

MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 18/02/2024 09:33

Is it a control thing from your family?
'Who does he think he is telling us how long we can stay for? We'll show him who's in charge!' And suddenly the only suitable place for all 17 people is yours and dhs home?

Willmafrockfit · 18/02/2024 09:33

i am sure it is meant to brighten up this afternoon

GalileoHumpkins · 18/02/2024 09:35

It always amazes me how many people would tell their husband/partner they had to leave their own home for a few hours to accommodate others. You should have planned better.

Simplelobsterhat · 18/02/2024 09:40

Heronwatcher · 18/02/2024 09:32

To those saying plan in advance, they did make a plan but the weather has scuppered it- plus sometimes things change at the last minute. I agree hiring a holiday house might be an alternative but surely that would be worse for the DH as he’d have them for the whole long weekend with no chance to escape, and it’s not ideal for the family with the newborn, plus hiring a holiday house for 17 people anywhere (but especially in London) will cost a fortune, plus it’s an administrative nightmare for someone to take on (especially when theses a perfectly nice house with stuff for the kids to do available).

I think the holiday house idea is more for future, in a lesson learnt kind of way (so no reason it would be in London, no newborn and DH could decide whether to go or not, and at least not have a messy house when he gets back).

And if you don't have a back up plan for an outdoor activity in February and one of the people's health conditions meant the plan didn't suit them anyway, it wasn't really a proper plan.

OhmygodDont · 18/02/2024 09:48

17 extra people in a house that your partner already feels small for 4 people is a lot. Add on that they are messy and wowzer also that’s a lot of children.

Sure there is some kind of all day soft play centre you could go too. Get the children off burning some energy and sit in the cafe for a drink and natter.

You wouldn’t be able to escape the noise of 17 extra people in your home even going to your bedroom it will just be bouncing around everywhere.

This whole plan wasn’t thought though was it, a complete shambles of just a we will all get together but then wing it on who’s where and what to do.

In future renting somewhere like those log cabins for upto 20 people that have hot tubs and a pool table and what not would be a much much better and likely more relaxing time for everyone.