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WIBU to still show up to the hospital appointment?

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 19:48

I have a long term health condition which impacts my life considerably, with a sizeable impact on my vision. I have had a hospital appointment scheduled for a while to review the conditions impact on my eyes and to decide if surgery is necessary, this was to take place tomorrow morning. I have just had notice from my mother who I haven’t lived with for a while that this appointment has been cancelled.

WIBU to still attend as they did not inform me and this is the only time I can do the appointment for a long time?

For context I work in quite a high pressure field with my work scheduled far in advance (think 5 years). It also involves working across multiple countries and time zones, to reschedule would place substantial delays on projects. For the appointment to also not go ahead it poses a considerably high chance of total vision loss, as well as raising the risk of unplanned surgery.

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DaisyCat33 · 12/02/2024 20:21

Is your mum down as emergency contact? That could explain how they made the mistake, if her phone number is under your name

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:22

Catsonskis · 12/02/2024 20:14

I’m so sorry you’ve experienced this but as pp have said it would be a monumental waste of yours time - and your employers time that you seem to be worried about - as you’ll just have to have another day off to attend. They really really won’t have cancelled you for no reason and it would have been with much reluctance (we are at the time of year where activity is really counted and necessary to meet targets, let alone considering the impact of cancellations and delays patients experience)

what I would do is:

  1. call the booking team, or PALS if you can’t find the booking/access team’s number and explain your mother got the text and not you, check your details are correct on the system for you. (Your mother getting the text and not you is technically an IG breach presuming you are over 18 and compus mentus, but more importantly you just need them to have the correct details
  2. ask if anyone can explain why you were cancelled (for your peace of mind) but from experience it will be due to illness/someone leaving unexpectedly/shortage/strikes/post strike impact (next strikes are booked for 24-28th Feb)
  3. ask for an estimate of when you will be booked back in clinic, they should be either able to tell you when it’s likely to be or just book another appt there and then.

you get more flies with honey than with ….I forgot the saying actually - but be nice is where I’m going, you’ll get a better and quicker response if you’re polite and reasonable, but clear in your disappointment and the impact the cancellation has had one you.

if you aren’t given an estimated date to be seen or it’s miles in the future, ask that your case be reviewed by a consultant and given a P status (priority). You can also ask if you’re a breach (over 65 week wait from gp referral) and how they plan on preventing you from breaching at the end of March if you want to really make them twitch

disclaimer - NHS manager here!

I am a long way away from 18 and wish I had my youthfulness again 😅😂. I will definitely be making a PALS complaint, and asking for the appointment date estimate as there is some of my work which can be begrudgingly rearranged but others which cannot.

I will also definitely ask that the case is reviewed by a consultant as he had concerns last time my case was referred. My condition is uncommon and typically doesn’t fit into the NHS clinics well.

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Hankunamatata · 12/02/2024 20:22

I'm guessing the clinicians are not available. So they will just tell you there's no one to see you

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:23

DaisyCat33 · 12/02/2024 20:21

Is your mum down as emergency contact? That could explain how they made the mistake, if her phone number is under your name

She might be, I will be checking and updating it to my other half if she is. They do have my contact information as I updated it a couple of years ago, but could see the mistake.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:23

Hankunamatata · 12/02/2024 20:22

I'm guessing the clinicians are not available. So they will just tell you there's no one to see you

Part of the issue I have is the clinician who they first set me off seeing always ends up referring to a more senior staff member.

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tabbymctwat · 12/02/2024 20:25

I attended a hospital appointment recently that went ahead as scheduled, and then the next day I received a letter in the post cancelling it! Thank god it didn’t turn up on the day of the appointment (it was posted the day before) or I wouldn’t have gone and would have been put down as a no show. Call asap tomorrow morning and check it isn’t a mistake!

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:27

pizzaHeart · 12/02/2024 20:19

It does look a bit strange. How old are you? Do you have the same initials as your mum e.g you are both Ms M Smiths with you being Matilda and her being Molly ? Do you live together ? Is she under care of this clinic as well? How the text was worded?
I manage my DD’s appointments due to her disability so my mobile phone on both her and mine records. And a few times mishaps did happened so I would double check. I would go for an appointment tomorrow just to be sure, but if it was cancelled I would try to discuss my situation with them. Some times going in is easier to arrange an appointment. Otherwise you’ve got a letter with inconvenient date then need to contact them etc etc . Whereas being there you can do it in one go.
But you shouldn’t hope to get an appointment tomorrow, just go in case any mistake happened and be understanding of their situation. Maybe your consultant became ill just this morning, what can anyone do?

I am in my 30’s, but have been attending this hospital since I was a toddler. We don’t live together and haven’t for a while, we have the same last name but different first names. She has attended the hospital but only as a private patient whilst I am NHS.

What I think happened is they have pulled the wrong contact information for me, they have my up to date contact however.

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BombaySamphire · 12/02/2024 20:28

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:00

It wasn’t an appointment letter, it was a text message. I don’t why it got sent to her as they have my number on file.

Why do they even have your mother’s number?
Are you an adult?

TheSnowyOwl · 12/02/2024 20:28

I would call first thing and see if there has been a misunderstanding and then raise the GDPR issue with them of texting someone else.

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:28

tabbymctwat · 12/02/2024 20:25

I attended a hospital appointment recently that went ahead as scheduled, and then the next day I received a letter in the post cancelling it! Thank god it didn’t turn up on the day of the appointment (it was posted the day before) or I wouldn’t have gone and would have been put down as a no show. Call asap tomorrow morning and check it isn’t a mistake!

I will be calling tomorrow and checking, the initial doctor they always put me with always ends up referring to a more senior clinician. The clinic I am in is not designed for people like me but is just where they put me.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:29

BombaySamphire · 12/02/2024 20:28

Why do they even have your mother’s number?
Are you an adult?

I am in my 30’s, I have been at this hospital however since I was a child and my mothers information was in the system then.

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JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 12/02/2024 20:30

Is the cancellation text definitely meant for you? My experience of such cancellation notifications are that they are pretty generic.

Maybe your mother was scheduled to have an appointment, didn't get the letter, has just received the cancellation for herself but is presuming that it's actually for you ...

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:30

TheSnowyOwl · 12/02/2024 20:28

I would call first thing and see if there has been a misunderstanding and then raise the GDPR issue with them of texting someone else.

I will be talking to PALS, they have no reason to contact my mother. I am an adult and have been for a while.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:31

JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 12/02/2024 20:30

Is the cancellation text definitely meant for you? My experience of such cancellation notifications are that they are pretty generic.

Maybe your mother was scheduled to have an appointment, didn't get the letter, has just received the cancellation for herself but is presuming that it's actually for you ...

I don’t think so, she doesn’t attend this hospital. It was very generic the text message, she only thought to send it on to me as I mentioned to her previously that I had an appointment scheduled.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:34

Hobnobswantshernameback · 12/02/2024 20:10

Phone your consultant's secretary first thing in the morning
They are the best point of contact to start with

I will do, in the clinic I am always seen by a junior member of staff before they refer me back to the consultant due to the conditions nature.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:36

Pacifybull · 12/02/2024 20:14

Did your mum just get the text this evening? How often do you go to the hospital for these appointments? So, if you’re away abroad for a few weeks, what difference will it make?

Just this evening. The difference it makes to me being abroad is that the condition is getting worse, if it were to deteriorate suddenly I will be stuck in a very expensive country with a very expensive medical condition.

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Winnipeggy · 12/02/2024 20:38

You could try, it's a different circumstance but I had baby brain last year and went to a hospital appt the week before I was meant to, and the lovely receptionist squeezed me in. They may have cancelled because there'll be nobody there though. I guess you have nothing to lose

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:39

Greenpolkadot · 12/02/2024 20:17

Maybe you should try a private appointment. Then you can organise around your hectic schedule and time zones.
The NHS won't be be juggling appointments to fit in with you.
If a Dr is off sick then the whole clinic will be cancelled. So you turning up hoping to be seen won't work
Try ringing the consultants secretary for info

Edited

Believe me I am going to be asking about private options and choking down the cost as my medical condition is not covered by my insurance. The clinic is run with multiple doctors as it is typically for another more common condition, they always make me see a junior member of staff who immediately gets a more senior member of staff due to the nature of what I have.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:40

Winnipeggy · 12/02/2024 20:38

You could try, it's a different circumstance but I had baby brain last year and went to a hospital appt the week before I was meant to, and the lovely receptionist squeezed me in. They may have cancelled because there'll be nobody there though. I guess you have nothing to lose

That’s my philosophy with it, I don’t have anything to lose by trying tomorrow.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:42

Pacifybull · 12/02/2024 20:04

Would the cancellation show up on the NHS app? Then you’d know for sure.

Unfortunately these appointments are not in the NHS app otherwise I would be checking there too. I can only see GP appointments in there.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:43

hoarahloux · 12/02/2024 19:55

Do you think your mum is lying to you?

I don’t think she is, she sent me a screenshot of the message and it looks genuine.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:47

MissyB1 · 12/02/2024 20:02

That’s a bit weird, I wonder if your mum has got the wrong end of the stick? Why would they text her??

We think she was contacted as her contact information is on file for when I attended as a child. It seems like the cancellation notice is genuine but very non specific.

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Borgonzola · 12/02/2024 20:47

Had to scroll a long way to find someone who agrees that this is potentially a breach of your patient confidentiality and therefore of their own information governance (sending a text to the wrong person). When I worked in a hospitals scheduling setting the importance of this was drilled into us as we had patients who wouldn't want family members to know they were ill, let alone have medical appts and when / where.

Would second contacting PALS as a first resort and then have a read of this.

transform.england.nhs.uk/information-governance/guidance/personal-data-breaches/#service_user

And please don't go to the appt - there will likely not be space for you on the list. Ring them and speak to them about it.

Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:48

Hobnobswantshernameback · 12/02/2024 20:05

Maybe
just maybe
phone and speak to someone who can actually tell you what you need to do
randoms on the internet can only tell you what the likely scenario is
Phone your consultants secretary or the new appointments helpline
it doesn't matter how urgent you are
if there isn't a consultant from your sub speciality there on the day or your actual consultant there won't be anyone to see or assess you

I tried that but unfortunately the bookings line was closed before the text message was sent. Everyone else has gone home for the day, the main part I am holding out hope for is they always sent me to a junior clinician who realised the nature of my condition and refers to a more senior member.

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Cockapoosforlife · 12/02/2024 20:52

Borgonzola · 12/02/2024 20:47

Had to scroll a long way to find someone who agrees that this is potentially a breach of your patient confidentiality and therefore of their own information governance (sending a text to the wrong person). When I worked in a hospitals scheduling setting the importance of this was drilled into us as we had patients who wouldn't want family members to know they were ill, let alone have medical appts and when / where.

Would second contacting PALS as a first resort and then have a read of this.

transform.england.nhs.uk/information-governance/guidance/personal-data-breaches/#service_user

And please don't go to the appt - there will likely not be space for you on the list. Ring them and speak to them about it.

I will be talking to PALS about it, the trust has my up to date contact information as I checked last time I was there.

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