To ask why do people not working claiming FSM get this for free?

[Sprinkledusting]

I’ve just discovered if you claim FSM and even if you’re not working, you can send your child to morning/after school club for free. And not just in our school either.
There are also sports clubs and holiday clubs during school holidays that state they are free for those who claim FSM. To claim free school meals your income has to be so low that you’re not working full time or not working at all, which of the people I know, most are not.
But those who are working have to pay for breakfast club/holiday clubs.

Can someone explain to me the logic behind this? As I simply don’t understand it.

Yes this is definitely something the government need to address.

It's for the benefit of the children, not the parents. These sort of things have been shown to benefit children seen as 'disadvantaged'.

If they have a Motability car they or one of their family will be disabled.

One of the reasons they stopped taking it into account for benefits was because of how unreliable it was. Rather than enforce child maintenance payments, the government would rather let their their business owning mates pay crap wages so people have to claim top ups and make the taxpayer pay for it.

Expecting this kind of post to start to crop up with ever increasing frequency if a general election is forthcoming. Sad really. Get us all to fight amongst ourselves to distract from the shit show in government.

Yes of course. But the people getting jealous over others having decent cars may not realize this. many disabilities are invisible.

This^
You don’t want my life OP, trust me. No amount of school meals or holiday clubs make up for it. I wish holiday club jealousy was my only problem

This was one good thing about working tax credits. They were tapered so it felt fairer than just a cut off cliff.
I mean, ultimately, they were tax payers keeping wages low but it certainly felt fair and did encourage people to work more hours as there wasn’t the harsh cut off.

UC is tapered.

Ok so we’ve established these people can’t feed their children or care for them adequately, in fact they don’t have the ‘cognitive ability’ to do so.

And we don’t have the foster carers needed to rehome them all.

So - let’s solve the problem in the only way we can - you can only claim unemployment benefits for longer than 1 year if you have a medical certificate to say you have a permanent form of contraception in place (IUD/implant).

I will now await the outrage. But does anyone have a better solution before these people sink the ship?

Are you serious?

Serious about mostly solving the issue of child poverty and neglect? Yes I am.

Or, maybe make the NRPs actually pay maintenance.

"These people" are not sinking the ship. 14 years of the Tories has done that very nicely.

They’re unemployed in many cases.

It’s both, I hate the tories

So why not force them to get the snip or is it only women who are responsible for their children?

Why on earth would someone have 4 kids if they can't afford to provide for them.

They said FAMILY of 4, not 4 kids. A family of 4 usually means 2 parents and 2 kids.

Because the snip isn’t really reversible. I understand that it’s ‘unfair’ but a lesser of two evils.

Well, there you go. You want female bodies to be controlled but not male ones. Sounds a lot like Gilead.

Ok then, they can have a vasectomy and freeze their sperm. Happy?

They could freeze their sperm before the snip.

Good idea, if you can’t afford to raise your existing children then you shouldn’t have any more … simple.

And what about those who ended up in this situation AFTER having kids?

I mean, before i left my abusive ExH and found out my oldest was disabled and in need of full time care, i had a job.

I haven't had any more kids, my own disability has happened post divorce.

Trust me, when i had my children i didn't expect to end up single, disabled, and needing to be a full time carer to a disabled teenager... but them's the breaks, and i'm GLAD the government are helping me, else i'd be destitute.