Massive Cruise ship holidays

[Roiesin57]

Do you enjoy them, or do you refuse to take one due to their impact on the environment?
We have taken one a few years ago and we had a lovely time. Everything about it was gorgeous and I fancy another one; but when I look at photos of them they look quite grotesque when they're docked in these relatively little seaside ports abroad.
Have you given up on foreign holidays because of the impact on the environment? And they're so damn expensive too

I am talking about the tons upon tons of waste the cruise ships dump into the ocean. Plastic bottles, plates, silverware, glasses, garbage bags, junk and crap dumped a few miles from the ports they are "delighting" with their stops.
I'm not going to argue with you. Look it up. It's not rocket science.

This sounds awful - can you post some links? I’ve googled but not much is coming up

It’s not rocket science because it’s not true either

It has happened but its illegal

https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-the-worlds-largest-cruise-ships-high-tech-recycling-system-2023-1?r=US&IR=T

We had incinerators onboard plus an entire section dedicated to 'garbage' and recycling. It is against maritime law to dump rubbish in the sea. In fact you would be fired if you were caught purposely throwing something overboard.

That said, I was just lowly crew. One rule for us and another for them.
https://foe.org/blog/can-cruise-ships-dump-garbage-in-the-ocean/#:~:text=U.S.%20law%20requires%20cruise%20ships,every%20year%20by%20cruise%20lines.

I would like to see some links too.

This happens, but rarely now, as it breaches various international laws. One cruise line (I think it was Royal Caribbean, but couldn’t swear to it) was fined millions in 2016 when it was discovered they had done that. It’s just not worth the risk to cruise lines now as they lose a huge chunk of profit and bad publicity which will result in some travellers boycotting them.

Amazing. You mean they changed the law before @Nanaof1 had a chance to bring it to worldwide attention? How incredibly pro-active!

To little to late is all I can say.

And it's not just cruise liners ... humanity has a lot to answer for!

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/0ad44bc2a6634403a98c4d546ae07ce6

I agree completely. I was clarifying in response to the post that cruise l ships were disposing of all rubbish into the sea. You’re totally right in this comment though.

RCL sustainability

They are doing a lot more than many cargo companies that transport our food, foods etc... to us of which many items are non essentials.

We coated the price of a cruise versus travel to our local airport, flights to a European city, transfers, hotel, meals, cost of visits to attractions, drinks/coffee etc - cruise way cheaper.

"The 218 cruise ships operating in Europe last year emitted more than four times more sulphur oxides than all the continent’s cars combined, according to the NGO Transport & Environment (T&E). Sulphur dioxide causes respiratory and cardiovascular problems and its pollution is a key component of acid rain."

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2023/oct/19/europe-ports-bear-brunt-of-cruise-ship-pollution

And a cruise is environmentally friendly is it ? I just said what I prefer obviously everyone’s different. I just like to go to places to do and see things. Costa Rica is very environmentally aware look it up and how is zip lining bad two metal erections and a wire. It’s known as the cleanest happiest place to be. It is currently 98% deforestation free. So please get knowledge before speaking. Bye.

To be fair, an environmentally conscious oversea holiday is an oxymoron. Nobody who holidays abroad is going to win any climate prizes. It is just a question of degree how badly you are tarred by the same brush.

I prefer the smaller lines, that only hold 700 ish ppl.

I hate the big ones they are like Benidorm on sea.

That's how I feel. I hate the ones that look like floating apartment blocks.

A zip wire is built as something fun to attract people. People are the problem not “two metal erections and a wire”.
Cleanest and happiest now. A few more years of tourism and it will be the same as many other once unspoilt places.

So I take it you just stay at home in case you environmentally impact things. I can tell you don’t live in Costa Rica. Did you not read what I out about how they treat their country? I think you are just a Debbie downer, goodbye, please don’t reply as I will not be reading it.