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To hate it being called pancake tuesday

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scrambledeggsandbeans · 07/02/2024 15:55

Just that really, it's shrove Tuesday it is the traditional feast day before the start of Lent on Ash Wednesday. Lent – the 40 days leading up to Easter – was traditionally a time of fasting

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EmeraldA129 · 08/02/2024 21:52

I’m not religious AT ALL, but had noticed this year everyone was calling it Pancake Tuesday. It seems a bit basic & would be better to stick with tradition, calling it shrove Tuesday.

by this reasoning are we going to start calling Christmas Santa day?

Chickenkeev · 08/02/2024 21:56

So many people missing the point that 'tradition' is Pancake Tuesday for some people. It's not a sleight on other traditions, but it is tradition for quite a few of us.

Chickitychick · 08/02/2024 23:04

pickledandpuzzled · 07/02/2024 15:59

Pancake day if you just want to mark a cultural tradition.

Shrove Tuesday if you want to acknowledge the religious roots of the practice.

The vast vast majority of those eating pancakes won’t be fasting in any fashion at all, so quibbling about the name seems a bit unreasonable.

Exactly this. We are NOT a religious family but love cultural traditions. We ‘join in’ with Christian British traditions and due to the area we live in Hindu/ Sikh traditions and those communities are thrilled to have non-believers join in! We don’t have Jesus but we definitely have the Easter bunny and Santa Claus ect. We love Diwali and bonfire night ect. Pancake day is for us the same fish and chip Fridays 😁

kkloo · 08/02/2024 23:38

EmeraldA129 · 08/02/2024 21:52

I’m not religious AT ALL, but had noticed this year everyone was calling it Pancake Tuesday. It seems a bit basic & would be better to stick with tradition, calling it shrove Tuesday.

by this reasoning are we going to start calling Christmas Santa day?

It's basic because that's what the day is about for a huge amount of people. Pancakes!

Why would it be better to stick to tradition if the only tradition that a lot of people have on that day is eating pancakes?

Christmas is associated with lots of different things even if you take religion out of it, Santa, family, the dinner, all the other traditions whether they're common ones or ones specific to individual families.,,,

On pancake day the only thing for those who aren't religious is pancakes! It is pretty basic, hence the basic name.

Thehigheroffer · 09/02/2024 01:45

Middleagedspreadisreal · 08/02/2024 18:27

Is anyone religious any more?

Yes. The millions of people of all religions who sincerely practice their faith strangely enough

sashh · 09/02/2024 05:03

mumda · 08/02/2024 15:27

Should I ask when you all realised you could eat pancakes for tea ANY day of the year?

My mother would serve pancakes with the gravy from a stew she made, as a starter and then stew as the main.

This means I have never and will never put sugar on a pancake.

Before my carer got his own place we often made a roast dinner between us and there was always left over Yorkshire pudding batter so I would often make pancakes for breakfast the following day.

@YankSplaining

Shrove or shriving is confessing and atoning for your sins, so you start lent 'pure'. And a lot of people do give up things for Lent.

Who mentioned Mothering Sunday - yep that's the real name, traditionally you would go to your 'mother church'.

Some people call it 'simnel day' because that is when you eat simnel cake and break your lenten fast for one day.

Wantthisfriend · 09/02/2024 06:28

It's another way we are allowing ourselves to be harnessed into consumer/retail events.
It did indeed begin with something that deep.
It's something that was created for an actual cultural reason. It was the ceremonial action of closing down your spending and consumerism by using up your most basic items (flour, eggs, milk), to mark the start of a period when people put aside their wants and vices for 40 days and thought of and served others less fortunate than ourselves.

It is being detached from its original point so that is can be manipulated into new consumer products every year. See giant bottles of chocolate spread and maple syrup, elf on the shelf, pyjama boxes, all the Halloween tat etc etc.
Ask anyone who works in retail or marketing. (And in the meantime our planet is suffering, our communities are divided and our health is deteriorating).

Middleagedspreadisreal · 09/02/2024 07:33

Thehigheroffer · 09/02/2024 01:45

Yes. The millions of people of all religions who sincerely practice their faith strangely enough

Strangely being very descriptive

Chaznay · 09/02/2024 07:35

It’s Pancake Tuesday here! Seems like first world problems to me.

JackGrealishsCalves · 09/02/2024 07:41

Well I can't stand pancakes and I'm not religious so it's just Tuesday to me

SoupDragon · 09/02/2024 07:44

TheSpruce · 07/02/2024 20:07

In my country we eat donuts instead - we call it Fat Thursday 😁

I loved working with a Polish woman who introduced the department to Fat Thursday. I'm more than happy to embrace all these celebrations!

sashh · 09/02/2024 08:27

TheSpruce · 07/02/2024 20:07

In my country we eat donuts instead - we call it Fat Thursday 😁

On a Tuesday?

EmeraldA129 · 09/02/2024 08:54

kkloo · 08/02/2024 23:38

It's basic because that's what the day is about for a huge amount of people. Pancakes!

Why would it be better to stick to tradition if the only tradition that a lot of people have on that day is eating pancakes?

Christmas is associated with lots of different things even if you take religion out of it, Santa, family, the dinner, all the other traditions whether they're common ones or ones specific to individual families.,,,

On pancake day the only thing for those who aren't religious is pancakes! It is pretty basic, hence the basic name.

I guess I just don’t like it, maybe because it seems too consumerist. I’m not really that fussed but this thread did just make me go ‘yes! That has been jarring with me too!’

I do think you’re over egging Christmas a bit though, lots of folk don’t have families or traditions or dinners.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/02/2024 09:27

On a Tuesday?

No, it was yesterday this year. Do countries which do this also have Shrove Tuesday ? (Seems reasonable it might take more than one day to eat up before Lent)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Thursday

kkloo · 09/02/2024 09:48

EmeraldA129 · 09/02/2024 08:54

I guess I just don’t like it, maybe because it seems too consumerist. I’m not really that fussed but this thread did just make me go ‘yes! That has been jarring with me too!’

I do think you’re over egging Christmas a bit though, lots of folk don’t have families or traditions or dinners.

I don't see it as too consumerist at all. There's a stand in every shop yes but I don't think it's encouraging people to buy copious amounts of pancake batter.

Also even though plenty don't celebrate Christmas or have traditions, I'm hardly over egging Christmas 😂 For those who celebrate it there are normally several components to the day, and for those who don't they know that there are too even if they don't like or agree with them or think it's all just about excess and consumerism.

You asked "Are we going to start calling it Santa day?" so I'm saying that that's unlikely because people tend to associate the day with more than just that. I personally wouldn't have a problem with people calling it Santa day though if they want to (or Santy day because I'm Irish 😂)

EmeraldA129 · 09/02/2024 10:01

kkloo · 09/02/2024 09:48

I don't see it as too consumerist at all. There's a stand in every shop yes but I don't think it's encouraging people to buy copious amounts of pancake batter.

Also even though plenty don't celebrate Christmas or have traditions, I'm hardly over egging Christmas 😂 For those who celebrate it there are normally several components to the day, and for those who don't they know that there are too even if they don't like or agree with them or think it's all just about excess and consumerism.

You asked "Are we going to start calling it Santa day?" so I'm saying that that's unlikely because people tend to associate the day with more than just that. I personally wouldn't have a problem with people calling it Santa day though if they want to (or Santy day because I'm Irish 😂)

Personally I don’t like pancakes, so maybe that’s it 😂

I guess from my work I see people torn apart about buying presents for their kids at Xmas & many adults that only receive a present because we give them one… and far too many people who are depressed and feel so alone as they don’t have anyone to share a meal or tradition with. I love Christmas in my wee family, but think that it is a time of pain & upset for many. Anyway, this was a relatively light hearted thread that I’ve taken down a rabbit hole 🙈

Marblessolveeverything · 09/02/2024 10:02

It's pancake Day here always was growing up. We are not religious, children attend multi cultural school and pancake Day is celebrated as a tradition 🤷‍♀️

You can call it what you want as can I.

CurlewKate · 09/02/2024 10:19

I don't think I have ever heard Pancake Tuesday- and it doesn't seen from google that it's a particularly common usage.

harrietm87 · 09/02/2024 10:39

CurlewKate · 09/02/2024 10:19

I don't think I have ever heard Pancake Tuesday- and it doesn't seen from google that it's a particularly common usage.

Read the thread…it’s been confirmed a million times that this is what it is called in Ireland, large parts of Scotland, and some of Northern England

CurlewKate · 09/02/2024 11:41

@harrietm87 Just making a comment! But I have personally never heard it in ether Scotland or Northern England- both areas I know well. I do think people often think that what their family calls something is universal to their region, not just to their family. My DP is from Yorkshire and insists that EVERYONE in Yorkshire says Plot Night. Which they clearly don't!

RavenofEngland · 09/02/2024 13:44

In my house, it’s both. I grew up catholic and going to church regularly, so I understand the religious significance of Shrove Tuesday. But it’s also pancake day. if my children ask, I will explain Shrove Tuesday because they will have heard that phrase but may not know what it means. But as far as they are concerned, it’s pancake day. It’s the one day of the year they get to eat pancakes (not really, because I do sometimes give them little pancakes throughout the year). Growing up, it was the day of the year for me that we got to have pancakes, and my dad is really good at making them.

JaneJeffer · 09/02/2024 14:11

CurlewKate · 09/02/2024 10:19

I don't think I have ever heard Pancake Tuesday- and it doesn't seen from google that it's a particularly common usage.

This is what happens when you google it in Ireland. The Irish papers use Pancake Tuesday and the British ones use Pancake Day!

To hate it being called pancake tuesday
Anyotherdude · 09/02/2024 14:20

It’s “Fat Tuesday” elsewhere in the world (Mardi Gras). We call it Shrove Tuesday or Pancake day. Not sure if many people know what shrove means tbh, but I won’t be repenting for anything - just eating pancakes!

CurlewKate · 09/02/2024 14:23

That's interesing, @JaneJeffer! Actually, thinking about it, it makes sense in a more Christian country- Pancake Tuesday, Ash Wednesday... Whereas in a more secular country, the pancakes are more important than the Tuesday...

JaneJeffer · 09/02/2024 14:23

Anyotherdude · 09/02/2024 14:20

It’s “Fat Tuesday” elsewhere in the world (Mardi Gras). We call it Shrove Tuesday or Pancake day. Not sure if many people know what shrove means tbh, but I won’t be repenting for anything - just eating pancakes!

Repent, the end is nigh!