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AIBU to have refused to clean his car?

64 replies

namechange117 · 05/02/2024 16:48

Context: Been with DP 7 months. He has a house and car, I live in the centre of a city and have a flat with no need for a car here. He has building work going on at his place and has been burgled in the past so is keen to spend most of our time together at his rather than leaving his house empty atm. I get the train to/from his to spend time at his- i.e. I am spending money I would not spend ordinarily to visit him. When he stays at mine (rarely, maybe once mid week), it means he saves money as he works in the centre of city and can stay at mine rather than commuting. We spend majority of time together at his at weekends etc and I feel that I help out a lot with dishes, tidying etc at his - although note he does nothing at mine (apart from twice two small handyman type jobs, but not cleaning up after dinner or laundry/tidying etc).

So we were heading out in his car the other day which was a bit of a mess (inc cobwebs!) and he commented on needing to clean the car, to which I agreed. He then made a comment about how I could offer to clean it! I told him to F- off in outrage, but mainly thinking he was joking. But he wasn't! I said it's his car so why would I clean it. He said I benefit from it too and how he'll remember that next time I want to visit my relatives* and I can get the train instead. I said that I was happy to get the train and it's his car so I'm not cleaning it. (I think I also made a comment about how does he think I should clean it as I'm a woman and how I'm not doing that!) He made some sort of comment about how his exes did it or offered to or something - implying that they felt they benefitted from being driven places in it and they offered to clean it and so I should!

I'm insulted he thinks I should do that - it's his car and his mess mainly (ok some of it is dust and cobwebs or whatever but generally the rubbish etc in there is his) and why would I ever offer to clean his car when I do so much else and I clean up after him more than myself here anyway! He said we spend majority of time here and therefore I should help out. Now I certainly do WAY more than just cleaning up after myself here (which he does not even do at mine!). I will often have the whole week's dishes in the sink that I will clean up before even being able to find a clean glass or plate for us to use for dinner. I help out with laundry, putting things away, make the bed, general tidying/cleaning up after dinner and I've actually often felt (before this whole chat) a bit put out that I help out as if it's a joint place to clean etc when at mine he's still treated like a guest!

*so this comment is because we visited relatives of mine a few weeks ago in a tourist hot spot which was a 9 hour round trip. I suggested going by train but he wanted to drive as he enjoys driving and has a nice car he rarely gets to drive long distances. I then offered to pay for petrol and he declined. I paid for a lunch enroute (a jokey conversation ensued in which it was decided this was instead of paying for petrol although the lunch was about 1/3 the cost of petrol) and the drinks/snacks we took for relatives. We also went to a ticketed event there which I paid for tickets for. He paid for our half of a meal and a little more towards the relatives when we were there as a thank you for them hosting us. This is the only real time we've used the car for something that could be interpreted as for "me" (I would usually get the train to visit them and have done so for years. I have no need of a car in my life where I live as everything is on my doorstep).

FYI he earns 6 times what I earn and could afford to get the blasted car valeted if needed.

Thoughts!?

PS - I've no idea how to add a vote, but

YABU - you should have offered to clean the car/you should clean the car for him

YANBU - perfectly fine to not offer to clean someone else's car, even if you are a passenger in it often

OP posts:
FirstFallopians · 05/02/2024 16:51

I think I’ve just developed The Ick on your behalf, OP.

GreatGateauxsby · 05/02/2024 16:56

🥴🥴🥴

that’s a big 🚩 from me

Throw that fish back…You’ve been warned.

MinervatheGreat · 05/02/2024 16:58

Stop investing in him.
He’s too much effort.
His entitlement is warped.

It sounds like you’ve got your city life well organised so dump him.
Move on.

Windydaysandwetnights · 05/02/2024 17:00

Get rid op. He sounds a right knob.

GreyBlackLove · 05/02/2024 17:00

Massive red flag. Why tf are you cleaning his place when he doesn't return the favour? If you're coming over to a week of dishes he's clearly just waiting for you to clean his flat

namechange117 · 05/02/2024 17:21

To be clear, I'm not properly cleaning his regularly like top to bottom.. and not even doing, say, 50-50 of all housework here (as I feel like it's his house so I'm not going to offer to get involved on the rare occasions he wants to clean or hoover etc).. but I am definitely doing a LOT more than just cleaning up after myself or the mess I make etc. He usually has a cleaner but has not bothered having her much during the building work much (although I still think the bathrooms and utility room etc still need cleaning but I don't do that!) I don't think he's waiting for me to do the cleaning, I think he's just busy/out most nights and doesn't care about it all that much and hasn't got around to it often!

I guess the thing that is making me doubt myself a bit is that he pays for all the food/takeaways etc at his and of course petrol. But I do the same (re food etc) at mine but it is HIS choice that we are there less often than at his! And I always have a fully stocked fridge/cupboards etc, whereas at his we have to jump in the car and drive to the shop so we're in the car more etc.. but anyway.. I guess I feel like I'm contributing enough by helping out with this stuff and I'm indignant he hasn't appreciated that and is having the cheek to suggest I could do more.

I know that one of his exes used to live in the city too and he'd drive her back home every time she came to stay.. I might actually clarify if this is the ex who volunteered to clean the car! That's a slightly different situation if he's been acting a taxi really for her!

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 05/02/2024 17:25

Forewarned is fair warned, op. He's telling you clearly what your place is. I really hope you're listening.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 05/02/2024 17:34

He sounds terribly selfish and tight fisted. Tell him to do one, I'm sure you could do better

Mix56 · 05/02/2024 17:34

Basically you have a vagina so you are the scrubber...
I would tell him that you do FAR more cleaning up his shit than you should, & will be stopping

You do know he leaves it as he knows you're coming.

toomuchfaff · 05/02/2024 17:41

YANBU

this guy sounds like a misogynistic a**hole...

cleanjng is womens work, my ex did it so should you...

he's telling you all you need to know; be sure to listen.

BirthdayRainbow · 05/02/2024 17:44

YABU if you stay with him another minute.

YANBU to not clean HIS car. I'm sure you don't leave your rubbish in his car..

RogueFemale · 05/02/2024 17:45

Don't waste any more of your time on this prize tosser.

MonsteraMama · 05/02/2024 17:47

I'm sorry who is he Uncle Fester? Who tf has cobwebs in their car?!

Absolutely no way OP, ditch this loser now or you'll end up becoming his maid. A car that hasn't been cleaned long enough for there to be dust and cobwebs, a weeks worth of dishes in the sink? This is one of those man babies people warn you about, who expects women to 1) be a bang maid and 2) feel honoured and grateful that he has deigned to allow them to be his bang maid.

There are not enough words in all the languages in the world to express the level of "fuck no" this relationship is giving.

Barleysugar86 · 05/02/2024 17:48

This doesn't bode well for the future OP. I think this would really make me requestion the relationship tbh. Of course you shouldn't clean it! Even if he was giving you lifts home every visit, his priorities are very warped.

ZephrineDrouhin · 05/02/2024 17:49

If this is the kind of behaviour 7 months in when most people are, frankly, still presenting their best side, imagine what he'll be like in 2 years. He sounds a lazy, tightfisted, over entitled yob. Those jokey conversations by the way were actually really serious for him in terms of getting you to fork out. I went out with some awful men before I found my lovely husband. Not even the worst of them ever suggested I cleaned his car. I think you need to free this one back into the wild.

whoscoatsthatjacket2012 · 05/02/2024 17:52

I'd stick with fuck off response.
I don't even ask DH to clean my car and he uses it more than me.
How do you get cobwebs in a car. I've never seen such a thing

Huffalot · 05/02/2024 17:52

Oh you've won a watch with this prize Walloper OP.

Seriously get rid, he's a cheeky fucker.

PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 17:52

I will often have the whole week's dishes in the sink that I will clean up before even being able to find a clean glass or plate for us to use for dinner. I help out with laundry

What on earth? Stop doing this.
He sounds like a dick, I agree with others he's showing his true colours. He won't get better if this is his attitude 7 months in

Avatartar · 05/02/2024 17:57

The fact that you are writing an essay about this says it all- he’s too much like hard work, you don’t need to wrap yourself round his thought processes. He is meant to bring you happiness not question yourself - bin him and go clean your own home

Justfinking · 05/02/2024 17:58

Sorry your post was too long, but seriously throw this one back

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/02/2024 17:59

He's not your partner he's just a rubbish boyfriend. Dump him.

Caroparo52 · 05/02/2024 18:06

Stop doubting yourself. This caveman doesn't deserve you. Have some self respect and ltb

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 05/02/2024 18:06

Just run away now.😁
I bet he is trying it on, seeing if you are going to run his home and do everything for him if you move in together.

Daleksatemyshed · 05/02/2024 18:15

@Mix56 is quite right Op, you find a sink full of dirty dishes because why should he bother to wash up when he knows you'll do it? Bugger washing his car @namechange117 you're doing more than your share already, he'll just get used to that and expect it in future. I'd stay home more if I were you, preferably on your own

Nonplusultra · 05/02/2024 18:29

I misread this thinking that you pointed out the cobwebs (because if you did that in my car I’d ask you if you were volunteering to clean it) but he actually brought up the subject.

I think it’s incredibly important in relationships to learn to communicate very clearly and well around your expectations of roles, the division of labour, distribution and contributions of money- all of these things are negotiables and not absolutes. But if you cannot navigate discussions like these in the early days, then you just don’t have the foundations of a relationship. This is how you figure out compatibility, whether you share values, how you see each other, whether compromise is possible, etc.

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