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To be scared of needing dentures at 40?

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Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:03

In the 3 years I have lost 8 teeth to cracking which we think is down to oestrogen suppressant medications given to me for 20 years for endometriosis.

On the left side of my face I have no molars or pre molars at all and no canine on the bottom so I eat on the right which is missing a molar and pre molar BUT

the two I eat on.. remaining molar and the canine are failing. Going to dentist tomorrow as molar filling tooth hurts and the canine is visibly cracked and painful.

Im going to be left with just 6 front teeth on the bottom.. if I want dentures I have to wait 3 months for extractions to heal.. ill need top and bottom partials which is gonna be ££££ and I won’t be able to eat at all in that time unless it’s soup.

In pain and scared. Had enough what with endo, adeno, bladder failing with IC, spinal issues and now losing my teeth too. I feel like I’m 80.

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Ponoka7 · 04/02/2024 18:09

I'm in a similar position and my teeth affect my MH and sleeping. I got a price from a Turkish dentist £8k but I'm nervous of going abroad. With the average income being what it is on here, most won't understand why we aren't prioritising our teeth.

Andthereyougo · 04/02/2024 18:15

I was sure I’d heard if temporary dentures put in straight after extraction but wasn’t sure if I misremembered. I found this info.
https://mft.nhs.uk/app/uploads/sites/3/2018/09/UDH-127.pdf

and this https://www.healthline.com/health/immediate-denture

Not read right the way through so no idea of cost involved.

https://mft.nhs.uk/app/uploads/sites/3/2018/09/UDH-127.pdf

shouldisay · 04/02/2024 18:18

You can have dentures fitted straight after extraction. You will need to go back a few times for adjustments as the guns heal and shrink, but you absolutely don't have to go several months with no teeth.

shouldisay · 04/02/2024 18:20

Also, DM got a full set of upper dentures, which she paid private for £395. A lot of money I know but they weren't as much as I thought, plus they look great. And she had extractions and dentures fitted on the same day.

Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:22

I did read about immediate ones.. they are top band on nhs so over £300 and each reline is not included so another £300 and then to have them remade again £300… is rather put that kind of money into paying for decent private dentures instead as certainly can’t afford both.. plus privately you pay for upper set and lower set.

My health issues mean I can’t work but the government don’t deem me ill enough to help via PIP so we manage on one wage which is hard.. don’t want to get nhs dentures and then end up wanting decent ones instead.

This all sucks!!
My teeth are all hard to remove.. the last one cost is £800 as it had to be done surgically.. the one before that I ended up with 4 roots left in my jaw for 2 weeks for a surgeon to have to go back in to remove and each time that surgeon has ended up taking 2 teeth where others have cracked while waiting to see him.

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RoseMartha · 04/02/2024 18:22

I am surprised they will not fix dentures immediately after extraction.

I had to save for my partial dentures for six months or so, but I had two upper front teeth and an upper pre molar out at once and they put the denture straight in as soon as the bleeding stopped.

I did sit and cried in the chair before they removed the front ones and I had thought I had come to terms with it. This year will be seven years on. And it feels normal.

Can you see if you can afford to have a few teeth put on a denture but not all of them to keep the cost down.

Sending a hug, because I know how losing teeth is an emotional upheaval .

Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:23

I’d need partials which cost more apparently. My dentist prices start at £1250 for an upper or lower and they are the cheaper dentist in my town.

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Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:25

I don’t know which teeth to even choose.. there’s none on the left of my face to eat on. Plus if I go with decent private dentures I don’t know if teeth can be added?
I just feel done

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Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:27

shouldisay · 04/02/2024 18:18

You can have dentures fitted straight after extraction. You will need to go back a few times for adjustments as the guns heal and shrink, but you absolutely don't have to go several months with no teeth.

I’d have to pay twice on the nhs when ultimately I want to get a private set to last longer and be stronger.

8 teeth extracted in 3 years and never once been offered an immediate

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shouldisay · 04/02/2024 18:32

Over a grand is eye watering!! I am so sorry OP. It's horrible and as a PP said losing teeth is so emotional 😭 . I am maybe way out of date but I thought there was a cap on how much your dentist can charge? I am in Scotland though so it could be different.

I hear you when you say you'd rather sink the money into private where you would probably get a set to last.

mrsbyers · 04/02/2024 18:43

I’ve just had a new set made and got them on Thursday , had some extractions then waited 6 weeks and then the dentures have been designed and fitted over another six appointments . has cost £560 privately which I think is good value

mrsbyers · 04/02/2024 18:44

Oh and yes you can get extra teeth added to a denture , I have one tooth that I know is failing and wanted to be sure I wouldn’t have to pay the £400 denture cost again

parentallyadept · 04/02/2024 18:45

I am about to have 6 teeth out for similar reasons. I've had to go private but I'm having an immediate partial denture fitted (for around £550 - I know it's a lot, but having already paid 2 lots of NHS top tier money for frankly rubbish partial plates already, it's worth it!), then they have recommended that I have the 'permanent' plate around 6-9 months later once the gums have properly healed. My teeth are the bane of my life, so you have my sympathies.

Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:46

shouldisay · 04/02/2024 18:32

Over a grand is eye watering!! I am so sorry OP. It's horrible and as a PP said losing teeth is so emotional 😭 . I am maybe way out of date but I thought there was a cap on how much your dentist can charge? I am in Scotland though so it could be different.

I hear you when you say you'd rather sink the money into private where you would probably get a set to last.

In England they have bands and the top band is somewhere between 3-400 but that’s within a 2 month period and excludes relining or adjusting and a new set.. private over a grand per set so I’d need two.. one for the top and one for the bottom.
in so much pain right now and haven’t eaten for 3 days.

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Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:47

mrsbyers · 04/02/2024 18:43

I’ve just had a new set made and got them on Thursday , had some extractions then waited 6 weeks and then the dentures have been designed and fitted over another six appointments . has cost £560 privately which I think is good value

That’s great value. Are they partials or full as full ones are cheaper? My dentists starts at £1250.

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catlovingdoctor · 04/02/2024 18:50

Immediately fitted dentures are not a brilliant idea. The tissues need several months to heal properly after extraction of teeth due to bone re-modelling. Any dentures that fit right after extractions are likely to feel loose within a couple of weeks. The best way is to allow the area to recover/ stabilise before impressions are taken to construct a denture for over the healed tissues.

ohididntrealise · 04/02/2024 18:51

I think that, regardless of private or NHS, you may need another set anyway.

When you get dentures fitted straight after extraction, they fit your gums whilst they are swollen.

As the gums settle, the way the dentures fit changes, and you may need them to be remade.

I know it's upsetting, but chat it all through with your dentist and weigh up the options. Private may indeed be better, but get all the info from nhs dentist first.

Good luck xx

mrsbyers · 04/02/2024 18:51

Mine are full this time around , I’m in the NE and admit I was really surprised at the cost privately. I do still have a few teeth but the dentures are full size if you get what I mean

Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:51

parentallyadept · 04/02/2024 18:45

I am about to have 6 teeth out for similar reasons. I've had to go private but I'm having an immediate partial denture fitted (for around £550 - I know it's a lot, but having already paid 2 lots of NHS top tier money for frankly rubbish partial plates already, it's worth it!), then they have recommended that I have the 'permanent' plate around 6-9 months later once the gums have properly healed. My teeth are the bane of my life, so you have my sympathies.

I’m so sorry you’re going through the same. Sounds like my dentist is quite expensive for partials then but they’re cheaper than the other local one.

Due to my bladder disease I can’t travel as more than 20 minutes away from the toilet is impossible. With my surgical extractions I’ve had to wear adult diapers and just saying that is making me cry.
no teeth and pissing myself in pain 24/7 with one thing or another.

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Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:52

catlovingdoctor · 04/02/2024 18:50

Immediately fitted dentures are not a brilliant idea. The tissues need several months to heal properly after extraction of teeth due to bone re-modelling. Any dentures that fit right after extractions are likely to feel loose within a couple of weeks. The best way is to allow the area to recover/ stabilise before impressions are taken to construct a denture for over the healed tissues.

This is what my dentists say.
i have one back molar left that is filled and giving me grief that they may refuse to extract but ideally I want that one out too before getting fitted.

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Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:53

mrsbyers · 04/02/2024 18:51

Mine are full this time around , I’m in the NE and admit I was really surprised at the cost privately. I do still have a few teeth but the dentures are full size if you get what I mean

I’m in Essex so it’s pretty much London pricing here.

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catlovingdoctor · 04/02/2024 19:04

Oucht · 04/02/2024 18:52

This is what my dentists say.
i have one back molar left that is filled and giving me grief that they may refuse to extract but ideally I want that one out too before getting fitted.

What is their rationale for not wanting to extract it??

Oucht · 04/02/2024 19:13

catlovingdoctor · 04/02/2024 19:04

What is their rationale for not wanting to extract it??

I haven’t seen them about the two I’m having issues with but I have an appointment tomorrow.
ive had to fight to have my other teeth removed and they are hard to get out.. 6 out of the 8 in the past 3 years have been done by a surgeon.. it was December 22nd that I last had two removed on the top so only 6 weeks ago.

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User38765 · 04/02/2024 19:27

Sorry, no advice on teeth but have you tried D-mannose for the IC? (Maybe check with your doctor that it's safe.) Also I think there's a school of thought re this that it's actually low level bacterial infections ( which can't be detected on lab tests) and there are specialists looking into this. Maybe worth doing some research? I also found switching to full fat milk was soothing for me after I'd had recurrent utis and things still felt a bit angry. Wishing you all the best.

Oucht · 04/02/2024 19:34

User38765 · 04/02/2024 19:27

Sorry, no advice on teeth but have you tried D-mannose for the IC? (Maybe check with your doctor that it's safe.) Also I think there's a school of thought re this that it's actually low level bacterial infections ( which can't be detected on lab tests) and there are specialists looking into this. Maybe worth doing some research? I also found switching to full fat milk was soothing for me after I'd had recurrent utis and things still felt a bit angry. Wishing you all the best.

Thank you. I take d mannose daily along with aloe Vera, mirabegron, amitriptyline and tramadol.
Ive tried to get my gp to push for more testing but they won’t even culture my urine when I say I have an infection as they just think the pain is my IC.
I know there is somewhere in london that deals with chronic embedded infection but it’s blooming hard to get into.

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