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Terrible class teacher causing concern amongst parents

303 replies

DodgyMcDodgerson · 01/02/2024 18:55

My son is in Year 2. To briefly summarise, his class teacher shouts at the class frequently, there’s alot of punishments both individual and whole class, alot of putting kids down and responding to them very abruptly.
most of the girls in the class are terrified of her (as in to the point some girls are crying coming into school, another little girl wet herself rather than interrupt the teacher to ask to go to the toilet. When the girls mother suggested her daughter had been nervous to put her hand up in case she got shouted at, the teacher completely dismissed this as unthinkable). There are a few boys in particular who she seems to really
single out to tell off, and these are lovely kids - not unruly or being disruptive. She’s telling one boy off for not understanding the work as an example. The kids are unanimous in their dislike of her. The parents in the class are unanimous in their dislike of her.Literally not heard one positive word about her.
one child has already transferred to a different school and there is talk of more
following.
bearing in mind that this is not even 6 months into a new job and in a class of 28 children there have already been at least 5 complaints (that I’m aware of) - is this teacher likely to remain at the school????

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cansu · 01/02/2024 18:58

Here is an idea. Some of the children are poorly behaved and have been pulled up on their behaviour. Parents do not like their kids being told off and get together to gossip and bitch about the teacher. They encourage each other to complain so they send in numerous complaints. Hmm looks a bit different doesn't it?

Aquamarine1029 · 01/02/2024 18:59

If things are this bad then you need to band together with other parents and raise proverbial hell. Constructively and maturely, of course. This teacher needs to go.

Tiddlywinks63 · 01/02/2024 19:01

So I presume you were actually present at each of these incidents?
or not?
🙄

Aquamarine1029 · 01/02/2024 19:01

cansu · 01/02/2024 18:58

Here is an idea. Some of the children are poorly behaved and have been pulled up on their behaviour. Parents do not like their kids being told off and get together to gossip and bitch about the teacher. They encourage each other to complain so they send in numerous complaints. Hmm looks a bit different doesn't it?

Hmmm, or the teacher really is shit at her job. Not all teachers are lovely rays of sunshine who delight the children in their classes.

Heatherbell1978 · 01/02/2024 19:03

Hmm. My DS has a very strict teacher this year. I'm delighted. He's 9 and the behavioural issues in his class since lockdown were getting out of control. A lot of parents are complaining but funnily enough they're the ones with the unruly kids. Just a thought.

ArlaJM · 01/02/2024 19:04

Aquamarine1029 · 01/02/2024 18:59

If things are this bad then you need to band together with other parents and raise proverbial hell. Constructively and maturely, of course. This teacher needs to go.

I don't think you should ‘band together’.
Yes, go in with your concern and if no joy follow the schools complaints policy ( on the school website).

Express the concerns you have, about the treatment of your OWN child, not that of other children (school leaders are not able to discuss another child with you)

DodgyMcDodgerson · 01/02/2024 19:04

I think everyone’s being a bit too polite about it actually and although I’m aware of some parents complaining, there’s alot of a lot more that want to complain but haven’t done so to avoid being seen as a pain in the arse. I had thought maybe it was a bit of a pile on but having spoken to my sons teacher on parents evening…..
the parents in the class are all decent people - nobody is trying to gang up on the teacher. She really is that disliked because she constantly upsets the kids, and the parents find her cold and rude. As mentioned one kids been pulled out and others are starting to make enquiry’s about other schools.some in the class with younger kids are starting to worry about the possibility of their children being introduced to school with her as their reception teacher next year. The headteacher must be aware at least to some extent as I know some have complained.

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Dancerprancer19 · 01/02/2024 19:05

I’m a teacher and there absolutely are bad teachers who either don’t know better or actively enjoy scaring children. They really should be got rid of because they do so much long term harm. I worked with someone like this, she was really quite evil.

I think you need to raise this formally with the headteacher. There is a recruitment crisis but sometimes people are temperamentally unsuitable to work with small children.

Crackoncrackerjack · 01/02/2024 19:05

Sounds like a parents WhatsApp group winding each other up

DinnaeFashYersel · 01/02/2024 19:05

How do you know all this? As you won't be present.

DodgyMcDodgerson · 01/02/2024 19:06

Nope, she’s not been discussed on the WhatsApp group.

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cansu · 01/02/2024 19:06

How on earth can the OP judge the quality of the teaching or the need for discipline? She is not in the classroom! There are far too many poorly behaved kids whose parents can't discipline them nor can they accept that they should be disciplined by others. It affects the learning of other children who may also need the teacher's attention.

DinnaeFashYersel · 01/02/2024 19:07

You raise concerns about your own child with the school and that's it.

Teddleshon · 01/02/2024 19:07

My oldest had a teacher like this, hair trigger temper and liked to humiliate the children. I only really found out about the details of her behaviour years later and she had a long lasting negative influence on my son and his confidence. I very much wish I had done something about it at the time.

DiamondGazette · 01/02/2024 19:08

This sounds like playground gossip that has got out of hand. Find out the facts, the real facts, before you go in all guns blazing. Don't rely on hearsay.

Prawncow · 01/02/2024 19:09

Lots of punishments/whole class punishments after 6 months suggests that she’s not in control of the class, regardless of how well or badly behaved the children are.

POTC · 01/02/2024 19:09

We had this same situation with a Yr3 teacher. I was a parent volunteer and governor in the school. My son was traumatised by her to the point of needing 1to1 support at the school we ended up moving him to. The teacher herself told me that she was only in the job because it made childcare for her own kids easier. Unfortunately it's very difficult to get rid of bad teachers so no, she's unlikely to leave any time soon.

ArlaJM · 01/02/2024 19:12

POTC · 01/02/2024 19:09

We had this same situation with a Yr3 teacher. I was a parent volunteer and governor in the school. My son was traumatised by her to the point of needing 1to1 support at the school we ended up moving him to. The teacher herself told me that she was only in the job because it made childcare for her own kids easier. Unfortunately it's very difficult to get rid of bad teachers so no, she's unlikely to leave any time soon.

With a well managed support plan and a strong leader it isn't difficult for poor teachers to be removed.

I've removed a few!

flusterbluff · 01/02/2024 19:14

cansu · 01/02/2024 18:58

Here is an idea. Some of the children are poorly behaved and have been pulled up on their behaviour. Parents do not like their kids being told off and get together to gossip and bitch about the teacher. They encourage each other to complain so they send in numerous complaints. Hmm looks a bit different doesn't it?

We had a crap year 1 teacher. She was fired after 2 years. She really couldn't cope. She ended up leaving teaching as she hated it. Sometimes it is the teacher

DodgyMcDodgerson · 01/02/2024 19:14

these boys aren’t badly behaved. I have seen girls crying going into school. My son cannot stand her and he’s the quietest boy you’d ever meet. Never been in trouble yet talks about how every day someone is sent out of the class for
not very much.
I know about the dismissal of the mum who gently suggested her girl was scared to ask to go to the loo because the teacher was very unprofessionally talking about what had happened loudly at the gate in front of several other parents who were collecting their own kids. That mum didn’t actually mention it to me, I barely know her, yet I heard it all with my own ears thanks to the indiscreet teacher.

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Prawncow · 01/02/2024 19:14

Report anything that relates to your child to the head teacher and let other parents do the same for theirs. Whatever is going on, gossiping about it won’t do any good. It creates a nasty atmosphere and could actually force the head to defend the teacher as a victim of unsubstantiated rumours even if she is at fault.

DojaPhat · 01/02/2024 19:15

Not all teachers are inherently angelic. Teachers do a thankless job, they never stop, they're constantly juggling a gazillion balls and condemned when they drop one or two. Having said all of that, some teachers should not be in the profession because they're bad teachers. It cannot be the case that all these kids were hitherto a nuisance and she's come along to whip them into shape thus putting a few noses out of joint. There might very well be a lot more to this and you'd do well to see how things progress without 'ganging up' on her.

CucumberBagel · 01/02/2024 19:16

No idea why some people find it so hard to believe that bad teachers exist.

ScabbyHorse · 01/02/2024 19:17

Can you volunteer to read with the class once a week and see what she's really like?